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texasbilly
12-13-2015, 10:55 AM
After I acquired my 444 Marlin (Marlin 336) I asked our members for samples of cast boolits to try in the new rifle. Thanks to many of our friends, I received a variety of shapes and weights to try. Now after trying all of them, I would like to offer some observations and lessons learned.
1. Not all 44 caliber cast boolits work well in the rifle. Some were too long in the nose to feed properly (or at all). Care must be made to insure that any 44 caliber cast boolit is short enough in the nose to feed through the magazine. If it fits through the magazine, it will feed through the action. If it doesn't feed through the magazine, it will not feed through the action.
2. Cast boolits must be very hard (high bhn) to work with the microgroove rifling in this rifle. Soft boolits will strip through the rifling, and become wild lumps of airborne lead. A gas check will help even with hard cast boolits. Cleaning the bore of rifle in which soft boolits have been fired can be a chore.
3. Though the 444 Marlin is capable of driving bullets at considerable speed, keep cast boolits at something less than 1800fps. Above that, all cast boolits will start to strip from the rifling. When this happens, you might have better accuracy if you simply threw the bullets down range.
4. If you plan to shoot cast boolits in a 444 Marlin, look for one in which the rifling is cut for these boolits. They are rare, but can be found.

Best wishes for happy shooting.

Edward
12-13-2015, 11:49 AM
Try sizing 1-2-thousand over ,my 45/70,35 rem and Marlin 30-30 all like fat boolits and my BHN 12- 13 with GC are no lead and accurate With micro groove in all 3 barrels .Hard does not fix skinny boolits !

nekshot
12-13-2015, 01:17 PM
what a fired case gives you from your gun is what you need to fill and then lives with the results.

tdoyka
12-14-2015, 04:57 PM
my 444 is a tc encore with a 23" MGM barrel. i slugged the bore at .429". the first cast boolit i shot out of it is a 275gr ranch dog(12-13bhn and .430") going about 1900-2000fps. there is no leading. the second one i shot is a 280gr gc wfn(15bhn and .431") that goes about 1900-2000fps and has no leading.
people that i know run the gamut from 10-22bhn in the 444 marlin lever action. they mostly use a boolit that goes .432", but a couple of them go .434". hardness has very little to do with it. slugging the bore does.
i have a couple boolits for the 44 rem mag(bore is .430") that goes .432"(230gr wc) that i plan on shooting out of my 444 with a load of unique and/or trail boss. that's .003" over the bore size i slugged at .429".

my advice, slug your bore.