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waksupi
12-08-2015, 12:36 AM
BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS AT GUN SHOWS : TWO MIDDLE EASTERNERS were found to each have multiple other loaded guns, and several other magazines. They were escorted to the front and I believe turned over to police. (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1640)
Steve,
I am a member of a local buy, sell, and trade Gun website called Spokane
Gun Trader. Another member of the forum posted the following information
that happened Sunday the 6th at the Spokane Gun Show. Information has been
verified by another member that was there at the gunshow and witnessed the
following involving two middle eastern men. Here is a copy of the post and
the events. So far this incident has not been reported on by the local
news or national news and we all know why. They are here and we all should
be on the lookout at all times as Scripture is being fulfilled each and
everyday. Time to turn to Jesus for he is our only salvation. Thankyou for
all you do.
John
The following is the actual post and events.
Make no mistake, THEY are HERE!




Postby Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:50 pm




Now stories will vary, but I got my information directly from the gentleman
who stepped in. There was a near miss at the gunshow today. Bill, an old
Corpsman type who checks guns and helps out at the gunshow saw two middle
eastern gentlemen enter the Gunshow today, Sunday. They were asked for any
guns and both seemed surprised and each turned over a loaded 10mm Glock.
Bill followed them after that as he noticed they each had "Syria" tattooed
on their wrist. Bill was distracted for a moment, but then was alerted by a
vendor that they were going booth to booth asking for "Assault Rifles."
When they were asked if they were WA residents they stated "We don't have
to tell you that," and one vender even asked if they were US citizens to
which they rapidly walked away. Bill caught up with them when on was either
reaching for his wallet or possibly a gun and Bill saw that he was carrying
another gun that was not checked at the door. Bill grabbed the gentleman
and noticing that the other was closing distance on Bill he asked for help
and another vendor and a shopper grabbed up the other gentleman. They were
found to each have multiple other loaded guns, and several other magazines.
They were escorted to the front and I believe turned over to police.




Now I was not there, I only heard from the man who was involved, and as
with any incident there will be a dozen versions, but I think the point
here is this is closer to home than anyone is comfortable with.




--
John

smoked turkey
12-08-2015, 01:04 AM
Wow. I believe this is only the beginning. They will be surprised to learn that we will not go down as easy as some of their other attacks have gone. I do believe that they know that gun ownership in the USA is quite high. They also know that shootings like we have witnessed of late not only serves to further their agenda, but also promotes more repressive gun laws. If they can bring about more restrictions on gun ownership they will be able to move about much more easily. Now is the time to support the NRA with our voices and our money.

AK Caster
12-08-2015, 11:00 AM
And this is the prime reason why it will soon be mandatory for all firearm transfers to go through an ffl dealer

jmort
12-08-2015, 11:16 AM
Freaking Q-Tips
This issue cannot be avoided. Society/media/liberals think we can carry-on as usual. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Alexn20
12-08-2015, 11:17 AM
We must be vigilant making private gun sales. Trust your gut and as questions. This is a big threat to the gun community and general population. We need everyone to keep your eyes and ears open!

quilbilly
12-08-2015, 11:47 AM
Political correctness is the suicide pact, not the Constitution. There is no limit to the number of other people's lives the PC thought police are willing to sacrifice.

square butte
12-08-2015, 11:58 AM
Thanks for posting this Rick - Family in the area close by

sparky45
12-08-2015, 12:20 PM
We must be vigilant making private gun sales. Trust your gut and as questions. This is a big threat to the gun community and general population. We need everyone to keep your eyes and ears open!
Request proof of residence and at least in my case I request a CCW license on any gun sale to which I am a party.

Alexn20
12-08-2015, 12:21 PM
Request proof of residence and at least in my case I request a CCW license on any gun sale to which I am a party.

Ditto. No CCW, no gun. simple. I'd also require a bill of sale.

MUSTANG
12-08-2015, 12:27 PM
Caution and observation of our surroundings is reasonable as we go about our lives in these times. Those who "Conceal Carry", must also be judicious and careful in our actions.

Last Thursday the wife and I went to the theater to see a movie on the Big Screen (multi-plex location). A bearded individual having a "Middle Eastern" look was seated in the same row a few seats from us in the middle of the theater. After about twenty minutes my wife asked me to go outside a minute. She had seen the same as myself, the man seemed nervous, was not really watching the show, and periodically would reach into the vest pocket area of his jacket. My solution was for the two of us to move higher up in the back and directly behind the individual where we could watch the show; but any unacceptable action on the persons part would be immediately apparent. At movies end, We allowed him to leave in front of us before we left our seats.

For those who may criticize for not reporting the event, when do you "See Something-Say Something"? In my case, IF WE WERE CARRYING in a movie theater with a "No Weapons Sign" displayed, we would become the target of interest - not the suspicious acting person. IF WE WERE NOT CARRYING then we would potentially be patronized or even ridiculed for overacting in reporting the behavior.

Each must make their own decisions in these times, but I believe it is prudent to think through our actions for various areas of risk we encounter in our daily lives in these times.

quilbilly
12-08-2015, 12:36 PM
Just so we all know - IAW a recent initiative all firearms transfers in Washington State must go through an FFL dealer. No privates sales are allowed anymore. In this state, you can't even loan your extra elk rifle to your brother-in-law in elk camp for a weekend hunt unless you march down to your local gun store and pay him a fee (usually around $50). This was the initiative paid was for by the former mayor of NYC (Bloomer) and now going to the ballot in Nevada. I applaud the table holder who asked these potential jihadist where they were from and sent them away. The feds would have probably let them buy. Three cheers for the table holders at the gun show!

popper
12-08-2015, 12:48 PM
Yup, 'bloomer' and friends are going local where they don't have to fight the courts.

tommag
12-09-2015, 12:22 AM
I wonder if the story is true. I went over to Sgt and someone asked what happened to the threads on this incident.The response was "pulled at op's request"

Col4570
12-09-2015, 03:48 AM
I have often thought that gun range security is quite lax when one considers that most Ranges are in remote areas away from the normal hubbub of daily life.Dissidents determined on obtaining Firearms could possibly raid Clubs whilst members are occupied with shooting.We now know that Fanatics will go to great lengths in their terrorist activities to obtain the means to create mayhem.It is a time to watch your backs and those of your fellow gun Owners.It may be possible to have armed security personel at clubs in the USA but here in the UK we have Firearms but the reason to have them cannot be personal protection.

dragon813gt
12-09-2015, 07:26 AM
And this is the prime reason why it will soon be mandatory for all firearm transfers to go through an ffl dealer

Already law in Washington so what's your point?

kbstenberg
12-09-2015, 08:13 AM
The public will never hear of the incident! Because it was a gun supporter that foiled the incident.
My question would be. How did they get the firearms they had on them?

MT Gianni
12-09-2015, 12:31 PM
How many sell a gun or other sporting goods used in the paper and have them meet at your house? It is done regularly here, I usually suggest a grocery store or convenience store parking lot and people look at me in shock as though they never considered it may not be a good idea to have a buyer know where you live.

MrWolf
12-09-2015, 12:41 PM
I use my work parking lot where I have Sheriff's Officer around. We each know where the other lives when exchanging/viewing Firearm ID info as I record that on a "receipt". Required in NJ.

southpaw
12-09-2015, 02:54 PM
This seems to be one of those internet fables. I remember reading this a couple times over the last few years. Not saying it didn't happen at some point, but... I heard it from a guy that heard it from a guy... And when did they start checking your carry piece at gun shows? I have never been asked if I was carrying. Seems silly that you can't bring in your carry piece when there are tons of other guns around.

Jerry Jr.

tommag
12-09-2015, 03:18 PM
... And when did they start checking your carry piece at gun shows? I have never been asked if I was carrying. Seems silly that you can't bring in your carry piece when there are tons of other guns around.
You are not allowed to bring loaded firearms into the shows here. Anything you bring in is checked and zip tied. Not sure about concealed carry.

merlin101
12-09-2015, 03:28 PM
I wonder if the story is true. I went over to Sgt and someone asked what happened to the threads on this incident.The response was "pulled at op's request"

I was wondering that too, just as soon as I read they had " SYRIA" tattooed on them.

merlin101
12-09-2015, 03:29 PM
You are not allowed to bring loaded firearms into the shows here. Anything you bring in is checked and zip tied. Not sure about concealed carry.

Yep, been like that here for decades, even your "carry gun". Don't like it? Don't come in!

Duckiller
12-09-2015, 03:53 PM
Gun Shows are gun free zones? I think gun shows in California are, except for LEO. Will have to ask at the next show I go to.

Mica_Hiebert
12-09-2015, 04:01 PM
Gun shows here have signs that say no loaded guns, want them checked and zip tied at the door, I never checked my ccw Id rather be tried by twelve than carried by 6 thats the beauty of a ccw if you do it right no one should know its on you!

dragon813gt
12-09-2015, 06:44 PM
You are not allowed to bring loaded firearms into the shows here. Anything you bring in is checked and zip tied. Not sure about concealed carry.
Same here at the larger shows that are closer to Philly. All firearms are checked and zip tied. There is armed security so I don't consider it a gun free zone. It's not security guards either. It's a couple of State Troopers at the door. The small shows that are close to me have no checks. Most people are carrying in some form of another.

condorjohn
12-09-2015, 08:40 PM
The reason for the "no loaded guns including CCW" is the insurance companies. I'm the Show Director for a
smallish show (145 Tables) and I get a lot of flack from CCW licensees. I tell them "if it's concealed no one will see it, wink, wink. There are only 3 or 4 insurance co and they are all the same.

tommag
12-10-2015, 07:57 AM
It appears the sheriff is taking it serious enough that he went on a local news show and asked that any witnesses contact him.

white eagle
12-10-2015, 08:15 AM
Ya sounds like the start of many more
now how far off the mark is Trump really
I think that with Obama flooding the country with
these Syrians refugee's these bad guy's will slip through

perotter
12-10-2015, 07:47 PM
If they had "Syria" tattooed on their wrist I'd guess that it was some American leftists who wanted to show how easy it is for a 'terrorist' to buy a gun at a gunshow without.

perotter
12-10-2015, 07:53 PM
Ditto. No CCW, no gun. simple. I'd also require a bill of sale.

For the few I've sold I only require cash. I don't want to know who they are nor them to know who I am.

starmac
12-10-2015, 09:32 PM
For the few I've sold I only require cash. I don't want to know who they are nor them to know who I am.

I'm with you, problem is, I never sell any. lol

myg30
12-13-2015, 08:11 AM
Here in Nashville, TN. The signe at the door reads no loaded firearms and no loaded magazines.
There are always some law officers in uniform walking around buying and I'm pretty sure there are plain clothes walking around "looking" ! Metro police patrol the parking lots and in the past a few were arrested for selling out of their cars to guys underage buying firearms.
When I buy privately I always ask for bill of sale an ID. It protects MYSELF from possible stolen
arms. You never know if the seller was not aware that he may have purchased it from another and it was stolen.

Mike

Thumbcocker
12-13-2015, 09:50 PM
Was Syria tattooed in English of Arabic?

Certaindeaf
12-15-2015, 08:16 AM
@tommag,

Where did you hear that?

tommag
12-15-2015, 09:59 AM
@tommag,

Where did you hear that?
I got that from a thread in the off topic section of Spokaneguntrader.com this section is restricted to members. I think there is an amount of posts restriction, as well. It doesn't appear if I log in as a guest.