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Judan_454
12-03-2015, 12:12 PM
I was using a old Pacfic single press to swag down .308 brass to 35 Remington in .452 push though sizer. Got one piece a brass sized down, but broke the handle off on the second, I think if the press is strong enough you should be able to do it.

jmort
12-03-2015, 12:16 PM
http://www.ch4d.com/Media/images/catalog/RC000.png



[*=left]2 3/4"-12 top thread.
[*=left]1 5/8" ram diameter.
[*=left]Accepts 7/8"-14 threaded shank shell holders.
[*=left]8 1/4" stroke.
[*=left]27 1/4" overall length.
[*=left]Shipping weight: 103lbs.

TenTea
12-03-2015, 12:18 PM
Lots of tough ones available old and new.

The Lee Classic Cast is utilized for .50 BMG, so maybe it would fit the bill.

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Brotherbadger
12-04-2015, 08:25 AM
Lots of tough ones available old and new.

The Lee Classic Cast is utilized for .50 BMG, so maybe it would fit the bill.

154753

My Lee Classic cast is a tank. I can't imagine it breaking under any circumstances.

troyboy
12-04-2015, 06:02 PM
I have one as well, but to say it is the strongest ss press is delusional. Check some of the cast steel offerings out and about.

TenTea
12-04-2015, 06:18 PM
I have one as well, but to say it is the strongest ss press is delusional. Check some of the cast steel offerings out and about.

I'm under no delusions that I can talk out loud about...:veryconfu

I think jmorts suggestion is close to taking the cake with a press weighing in @ 103 lbs. !

nicholst55
12-04-2015, 06:26 PM
I would have to agree that the CH Rock Crusher is probably in the top 2-3, anyway. But then, I have a swaging press built by UPNORTH that could classify as a single stage reloading press - I had him furnish it with a 7/8-14 adapter for the die station.

jmort
12-04-2015, 07:27 PM
I did not consider swaging presses, but if they can do double duty, then they would count.

sniper
12-04-2015, 07:40 PM
Rockchucker!

Artful
12-04-2015, 07:46 PM
Rockchucker!
Nope -
https://www.google.com/#q=broken+rock+chucker+press
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx220/ClarkM/BrokenRCBSRockchuckerpress.jpg

Not Lee either
https://www.google.com/#q=broke+lee+cast+classic+press

You may want to look at
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?76514-Lets-make-a-Swage-press

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?22347-Swaging-and-swaging

LUCKYDAWG13
12-04-2015, 07:54 PM
154867
i would say my herters model 3 reloading press is the strongest press i have

EDG
12-05-2015, 12:25 AM
I used a 60 ton Amada press at work one time. I rigged up some tooling and one of the sheet metal guys formed some .308s into 6.6 Jap.
It is very strange that such a high force operation at home gives you no feed back on one of these. When you step on the go pedal the case gets formed or the tooling breaks.

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truckerdave397
12-05-2015, 12:28 AM
My RCBS Ammo master is a pretty healthy press

seagiant
12-05-2015, 12:16 PM
Hi,
Want cast STEEL, something that won't take up the whole reloading room, but STRONG?

tazman
12-05-2015, 12:26 PM
I used a 60 ton Amada press at work one time. I rigged up some tooling and one of the sheet metal guys formed some .308s into 6.6 Jap.
It is very strange that such a high force operation at home gives you no feed back on one of these. When you step on the go pedal the case gets formed or the tooling breaks.

154891

I was about to show one of the forge shop's screw presses from work but yours will work as well. The one from work isn't exactly a precision machine but yours is.

mexicanjoe
12-05-2015, 01:53 PM
Got one of these Herters presses in the man cave......hell
for stout. My little girl uses it to crack pecan shells! :)
p

troyboy
12-05-2015, 06:35 PM
Mass does not equate to strength. When reloading it is a balance between the strength of the press and leverage. Never forget accurate machining either. Dont get caught up in the "It's built like a tank" mentality. Use the proper tool for the job.

MT Chambers
12-05-2015, 06:56 PM
Redding Ultramag, RCBS A-2, Big-Max, etc.

Houndog
12-06-2015, 11:44 AM
Don't forget the Dillon single stage press for the 50 BMG! For what you are doing you shouldn't need anything bigger than a Rockchucker, a Lyman Orange Crusher or a Redding Boss. I've made thousands of cases on the Rockchucker as well as swaging bullets with them with nary a problem.

jmort
12-06-2015, 11:57 AM
For a current production dedicated single-stage reloading press, nothing is going to approach the CH4D Rock Crusher, strength, price, size, weight...it is excessive all around

r1kk1
12-06-2015, 03:19 PM
Don't forget the Dillon single stage press for the 50 BMG!

What Dillon single stage press? The BFR is a four station press for BMG.

take care

r1kk1

quietmike
12-06-2015, 03:48 PM
Forster Co-ax

jmort
12-06-2015, 05:22 PM
^^^ Wrong. It is a great press but not even close to being the "stongest." Why are posts just randomly, seemingly, just spouting out names that are not even close to being the strongest. Guess is that they own the press in question and like to pretend as it makes them feel better.

bigjake
12-06-2015, 07:12 PM
I have an old RCBS A2 Its a heavy duty sucker! too big for every day loading

r1kk1
12-06-2015, 07:37 PM
For a current production dedicated single-stage reloading press, nothing is going to approach the CH4D Rock Crusher, strength, price, size, weight...it is excessive all around

I agree! Seagiant and I own the only other cast steel press made currently. We both found out it also has a heat treated solid ram. I bet the Rock Crusher does too. The stroke length on it must be huge to handle 20mm ammo.

take care,

r1kk1

jmort
12-06-2015, 07:48 PM
"Seagiant and I own the only other cast steel press made currently"

Which one is that? The CH4D Champion???

dragon813gt
12-06-2015, 08:05 PM
RCBS A2 is a brute of a press. Swaging presses are brutes by design. If you want strength than you want steel.

quietmike
12-06-2015, 08:13 PM
^^^ Wrong. It is a great press but not even close to being the "stongest." Why are posts just randomly, seemingly, just spouting out names that are not even close to being the strongest. Guess is that they own the press in question and like to pretend as it makes them feel better.

Depends on what is meant by strong.

Beating it with a hammer, or providing the power for resizing and case forming?

Tailhunter
12-06-2015, 08:25 PM
Rcbs Summit single Stage

labradigger1
12-06-2015, 08:29 PM
Of all real world presses shown on this thread my vote is for the rock crusher. My personally owned strongest is a rcbs 2A, cast steel. I'm certain it could be broken but it would take a lot of trying to do so. My coax is a great strong accurate press but strongest, no way.

Artful
12-07-2015, 12:54 AM
^^^ Wrong. It is a great press but not even close to being the "stongest." Why are posts just randomly, seemingly, just spouting out names that are not even close to being the strongest. Guess is that they own the press in question and like to pretend as it makes them feel better.

Or they use the press and compare feel against other presses, and as the effort is less they think it's stronger.

kryogen
12-08-2015, 12:16 AM
the lee classic cast is probably the best value in strong single stage.
I wouldnt use my coax to do a muscle job. I consider it precise.

I really wonder if I should just sell the coax and buy a classic cast.....

r1kk1
12-08-2015, 08:15 PM
"Seagiant and I own the only other cast steel press made currently"

Which one is that? The CH4D Champion???

Yes, the Champion and Rock Crusher are the only cast steel presses currently made.

Take care

r1kk1

Rustyleee
12-08-2015, 08:28 PM
154867
i would say my herters model 3 reloading press is the strongest press i have

I started reloading with a Herter's press. I don't know if it's the strongest but I DO think it's the heaviest.

jmort
12-08-2015, 08:52 PM
If that Rock Crusher is cast steel, that is beyond crazy strong. Now I really want one.

kd185
12-08-2015, 08:59 PM
the Lee cast BMG press is know for having a week handle/toggle area
ask me how i know
but
fix that part and you have a pretty indestructible press
it has the potential for being stronger than the average man operating it

Steve77
12-08-2015, 09:37 PM
I've had an RCBS A2 and an A3. Both were tough presses. Wish I had kept one, especially the A3.

paul h
12-08-2015, 09:59 PM
the lee classic cast is probably the best value in strong single stage.
I wouldnt use my coax to do a muscle job. I consider it precise.

I really wonder if I should just sell the coax and buy a classic cast.....

Why not both? My co-ax is my primary single stage press, but I have a rockchucker for when I need to muscle something or have to use large body dies.

Le Loup Solitaire
12-08-2015, 10:23 PM
Strongest press that I ever had (and stupidly sold) was an RCBS Big Max. It was discontinued some years ago. It used among other things a lot of handle travel but it developed a huge amount of mechanical advantage while the frame was absolutely massive. I did not favor the universal shell holder and used an adapter that took regular shell holders. Never a worry about swaging or case reforming; the MA made them a piece of cake. LLS

tonyjones
12-10-2015, 01:13 AM
I will not pretend to know what the strongest press is. However, back in my wildcat cartridge days when I did a lot of case forming my Redding Ultra Mag handled the chore with ease. I still have it but prefer a Co-Ax for most of my loading needs. TJ

BullGoose
12-11-2015, 12:34 AM
Having once accidentally folded a piece of 257Rob brass to 243Win, I know that the leverage system of the Redding UltraMag is excellent. I never felt the difference when it happened. However, I believe that the CH4D Champion is likely the strongest single stage available and realistic for a standard loading bench. The Rock Crusher is in a different class altogether as are swaging presses.

fguffey
12-11-2015, 10:58 AM
http://www.grainger.com/category/power-tools-finishing-tools-arbor-presses/ecatalog/N-al9/Ntt-Arbor+Press?adgrpID=1372889917&kwdID=Arbor+Press&s_kwcid=AL%212966%2110%218951146286%2162045414325&sst=subset&ts_optout=true


I have 3 arbor presses, modifying one to size and or form cases requires time but there is no give and or flex.

I have 3 Herter presses that are not suspect, two are the 'U' type press and the other is the two ram press. I am not motivated to determine the amount of abuse a press will tolerate.

F. Guffey

fguffey
12-11-2015, 11:03 AM
I agree! Seagiant and I own the only other cast steel press made currently. We both found out it also has a heat treated solid ram. I bet the Rock Crusher does too. The stroke length on it must be huge to handle 20mm ammo.

The Rock Chucker has two rams available, one is for swaging. I believe it is listed on page 11 of the Special Order Catalog.

F. Guffey