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starmac
11-22-2015, 08:15 PM
I am seeing something on craigslist lately I have never seen before.
Folks are advertizing fREE marijuana, but the adds states there is a delivery charge. lol

I guess there is some loophole in our new maryjane law that makes it easier to give it away. lol

Lonegun1894
11-23-2015, 04:44 AM
All I can think of is it may be against the law to sell it, so the drug is "free", but the delivery will cost you. All laws have some kind of wording so that some smart-alec thinks he will use as a loophole.

starmac
11-23-2015, 05:19 AM
That is what I'm thinking. There is probably a bunch of red tape to become a legal dealer, and these guys have figured a way around it, MAYBE. lol

facetious
11-23-2015, 06:34 AM
Years a go we went to city hall to get my wife a sales tax license. while she was doing that i was checking to see if i needed a permit to build a shed. At the same time I asked about a green house, when my wife came in with her sales tax stuff the guy asked if we were going to try and sell any thing from the green house. My wife told him about a fiend that had sold her extra starter plants at a garage sale and thought maybe she would try it. The guy went bonkers, he told her all the permits and certifications that you need to sell plants. and all the bad things that could have happened if her friend got caught. So we just said that it was to much BS and decided to forget doing that. Then as we were leaving he said that she could give the plants a way and ask them to pay for the dirt in the pot to get around it. You can charge for the dirt but not the plant growing in the dirt, so you give them the plant for free. In the end we never got the green house built. So you just never know.

I do think in ten years people will look back and wonder how after every thing that prohibition on alcoholic beverages did thy will wonder how thy ever got it passed on pot. By then it will seen as no different then beer. Hell most country music any more it seems is is about going out on saturday night getting drunk, stoned and hooking up for the night and showing up to church hung over to sing about how much thy love Jesus.

trapper9260
11-23-2015, 06:44 AM
Years a go we went to city hall to get my wife a sales tax license. while she was doing that i was checking to see if i needed a permit to build a shed. At the same time I asked about a green house, when my wife came in with her sales tax stuff the guy asked if we were going to try and sell any thing from the green house. My wife told him about a fiend that had sold her extra stater plants at a garage sale and thought maybe she would try it. The guy went bonkers, he told her all the permits and certifications that you need to sell plants. and all the bad things that could have happened if her friend got caught. So we just said that it was to much BS and decided to forget doing that. Then as we were leaving he said that she could give the plants a way and ask them to pay for the dirt in the pot to get around it. You can charge for the dirt but not the plant growing in the dirt, so you give them the plant for free. In the end we never got the green house built. So you just never know.

I do think in ten years people will look back and wonder how after every thing that prohibition on alcoholic beverages did thy will wonder how thy ever got it passed on pot. By then it will seen as no different then beer. Hell most country music any more it seems is is about going out on saturday night getting drunk, stoned and hooking up for the night and showing up to church hung over to sing about how much thy love Jesus.

I am with you about the country music ,I get sick of it.It is not like some of the old ones that made more about it should be.

Tackleberry41
11-23-2015, 08:59 AM
Well its sort of like sex, its perfectly legal to give it away, but they bust you for selling it. Those escort services got around such things by charging you for the lingerie show.

So now they will charge you $30 handling fee for a bag of weed that used to be $30.

We have some screwy laws. My ex lost her business license, it was state issued, did massage. Well you need a state business license to do massage in a business or your home, in call. Then they know where you are and can come check up on you. But out call, no license required, they know people will do the right thing.

reloader28
11-23-2015, 10:15 AM
What really ticks me off is you can make loads of beer and wine and get stoned all you want, but if you distill ANYTHING with alcohol you go to prison for 10 years and lose all your property because they cant tax it. Hmmmm, they cant tax my beer or wine.
Its no wonder though. A bottle of Pendleton or Makers Mark is $50-$60 for a 1/2 gallon. You can easily make better tasting stuff for $5-$6 per gallon. What a scam.

ole 5 hole group
11-23-2015, 10:35 AM
Not sure just how all this is going to shake out over State's Rights and public safety but depending upon the State, you might be able to sell within the State that way, without the necessary State permits but there's always this State sales tax issue.

There's a lot of causes to our youth and middle age folk's lack of education, job skills and civil courtesy and drugs is but one of those, so I guess we'll just have to sit back and see if anything changes, to make these drug users useful.;)

rancher5
11-23-2015, 12:04 PM
Not sure just how all this is going to shake out over State's Rights and public safety but depending upon the State, you might be able to sell within the State that way, without the necessary State permits but there's always this State sales tax issue.

There's a lot of causes to our youth and middle age folk's lack of education, job skills and civil courtesy and drugs is but one of those, so I guess we'll just have to sit back and see if anything changes, to make these drug users useful.;)
Colorado as the nation knows is literallyRocky mtn high, huge influx of ppl moving here just for Marijuana is mind boggling ,Yes I smoked kilos going thru College, I did make good grades,tho now seeing some of my peers never going anywhere,"achieving" anything I know why its called Dope, no don't believe in making it illegal again,I just wish like they use to do with cigarettes ,commercials telling the down sides of using Marijuana, to many youth our stuck,believing theres No downside or consequences in chronic use of Pot.Wonder where politically Colorado is going to move to with new influx of Dope smokers,one issue voters?

Years a go we went to city hall to get my wife a sales tax license. while she was doing that i was checking to see if i needed a permit to build a shed. At the same time I asked about a green house, when my wife came in with her sales tax stuff the guy asked if we were going to try and sell any thing from the green house. My wife told him about a fiend that had sold her extra stater plants at a garage sale and thought maybe she would try it. The guy went bonkers, he told her all the permits and certifications that you need to sell plants. and all the bad things that could have happened if her friend got caught. So we just said that it was to much BS and decided to forget doing that. Then as we were leaving he said that she could give the plants a way and ask them to pay for the dirt in the pot to get around it. You can charge for the dirt but not the plant growing in the dirt, so you give them the plant for free. In the end we never got the green house built. So you just never know.

I do think in ten years people will look back and wonder how after every thing that prohibition on alcoholic beverages did thy will wonder how thy ever got it passed on pot. By then it will seen as no different then beer. Hell most country music any more it seems is is about going out on saturday night getting drunk, stoned and hooking up for the night and showing up to church hung over to sing about how much thy love Jesus.

Tackleberry41
11-23-2015, 12:40 PM
What really ticks me off is you can make loads of beer and wine and get stoned all you want, but if you distill ANYTHING with alcohol you go to prison for 10 years and lose all your property because they cant tax it. Hmmmm, they cant tax my beer or wine.
Its no wonder though. A bottle of Pendleton or Makers Mark is $50-$60 for a 1/2 gallon. You can easily make better tasting stuff for $5-$6 per gallon. What a scam.

A friend couple years ago decided he was going to save money as an alcoholic and make his own. Well he found out, you can't buy a still in this country. As it stands if you can even accidentally make alcohol you can drink its against the law to have it. He ended up getting a still from New Zealand, I know he could have made one, but being an alcoholic not easy to do. And I did the math, you weren't going to save any money. For what it cost to make a gallon of shine, doubtful his would have been very good maybe even make you blind, you could go buy the cheap stuff at the store.

I make wine, if you go and buy the kits they sell or even just the proper wine making juice, its not any cheaper than just going and buying wine. Tho it would be the cheap stuff at the store, not hard to beat it in quality. It was the same with beer, for what a kit or ingredients cost, you could buy it at the store. Tho again, your homemade would be on par with the expensive stuff, for the price of the cheap stuff.

Weed is one of those things they just need to move on, decriminalize it or legalize it, tax it, save everybody alot of effort. A national tax like alcohol would go a long way towards solving our deficit, and have the side effect of putting a big dent in the cartels. Oh they say its an evil thing and a gateway drug. Yet tobacco, a plant, which has no other purpose that I know of than delivering an addictive poison is legal. While weed, a plant, isn't. And weed well you can dang near build a house out of it, and would save tons of effort in growing trees to cut down. Tho we get into the economic side of it and well all those paper companies would be out a pile of money and why it was even made illegal to begin with.

reloader28
11-24-2015, 12:15 AM
Just a quick thread steal, Tackleberry, where are you getting your booze ingredients???
My wine figures out to $1.50-$2/bottle when I buy fruit or juice and my beer is 1/3-1/2 the cost of the cheap stuff using all grain and harvesting yeast.

facetious
11-24-2015, 06:46 AM
I do not think most of the people moving to Colorado are coming just for the pot. A lot of company's are relocating to Colorado from California and other places for the lower tax's. With my job I get to read about a lot of this stuff. A lot of high teck business's are moving here because of a lot of high skilled people are going to school here and there is a lot of aerospace companies in Colorado. You have a lot of computer related companies setting up shop in the north metro area all so. Thy call it the new silicon valley. This is what is driving the housing prices up. Then there was the big flood and all the people washed out had to find a place to live while rebuilding their homes driving up the price of renting.

I do know that much of what you see and hear is manipulated to sell advertising. The family moving here to get pot to try and treat their kid gets gets you to read the story. So do story's about about some stoners coming just to party. But the thing is it is a few people who get a lot of air time and or ink that makes it seam like the place is being over run with people who just want to sit around stoned and watch football reality entertainment TV. With rent starting at 1,500 a month and houses starting at 250,000 do you really think some stereotypical TV type stoner can afford to come live here? Hell if you didn't have a house be fore the flood you just got priced out of buying one. Where I work thy have been trying to hire people but when thy see what thy want to pay ( around 50,000 a year) to start and then look a what it will cost to get a decent place for their family to live thy say no and move on.

Thy say that over 60% of weed sold in dispensary's is to tourist buying it as a novelty to tell every one back home about and relive their glory day of youth for a few days. And get some T shirts to take back home.

Tackleberry41
11-24-2015, 08:49 AM
Just a quick thread steal, Tackleberry, where are you getting your booze ingredients???
My wine figures out to $1.50-$2/bottle when I buy fruit or juice and my beer is 1/3-1/2 the cost of the cheap stuff using all grain and harvesting yeast.

My alcoholic friends project was quite a while ago, 2001. An issue that came up quick was it was Fla, in the summer heat it was difficult to do any fermenting without AC.

My wine is pretty cheap to. The blackberry comes from behind the house, so zero cost, just the sugar and additives. I made some pineapple, wasn't sure how it would come out. It was cans of juice on the shelf getting close to their date, a gallon of juice is less than $10, but I buy it to drink anyways. So maybe $15 for 5 gal once you factor in the additives. I use canning jars, so not even any cost in corks.

But for your 'average' person. You know the people who have difficulty doing things for themselves. The ones who buy those actual wine making kits, or the juice from proper wine making grapes, those kits are not usually very cheap. For the same people making beer a kit with all the ingredients is $30 and up. If you break it down by the 6 pack, its cheaper to go buy something like bud light.

Its just like out little hobby on here, for those of us who can do such things it gets pretty cheap, but for you average mouth breather they get to complain how much ammo costs at the store.