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VintageRifle
11-07-2015, 10:18 PM
Hello,

I know that IMR SR4759 was discontinued. I found a source that has about 5 - 1lb containers available. Would this powder be worth getting for cast bullet loads for 7.62x54r, 30-06, 303 British, 8mm, and similar cartridges?

From what I have read, about 15gr of SR4759 for a 185gr cast bullet works well.

I have been using 2400. But came across references that SR4759 works very well.

Thanks,
Nick

dragon813gt
11-07-2015, 10:28 PM
Yes, it works very well for reduced loads. I'm very glad I bought the quantity I did.

perotter
11-07-2015, 11:40 PM
Every time I've ever used it, I've been very pleased with the result. But as I like keeping a bare minimum of different powders, I never made it powder I keep on hand.

IMO, if you are short on 2400 and the price of the SR4759 is right, I'd suggest buying it. I know I would.

Bent Ramrod
11-08-2015, 01:29 AM
Five pounds of 4759 would be enough to at least develop a database of loads for the cartridges you want to try it in. Then you could keep an eye out for any more that turns up.

I know I glom onto any quantity I come across any time I find it.

The discontinuance of 4759 is right up there with the introduction of New Coke in the pantheon of worst marketing decisions ever.

leadman
11-08-2015, 01:59 AM
This will be the second time SR4759 has been dropped. Requests for it made IMR bring it back.

I use 18 or 19grs in those same cartridges and they are very acurate with no ignition or position problems.

gnoahhh
11-08-2015, 02:45 PM
By all means buy it! If I stumbled onto a stash in a store, it would end up in my car in about a minute. Luckily I have something over 10 pounds stashed, but I'm dreading the day I use the last of it.

waco
11-08-2015, 08:00 PM
I bought two eight pounders a year or so ago. Still have about 15 lbs left. Love it in .308 and 45-70

dragonrider
11-08-2015, 08:32 PM
Buy it, Buy it, buy it. at whatever price.

VintageRifle
11-08-2015, 11:23 PM
Thanks for the input everyone. Will see what I can do. Hopefully will be able to get it all.

The odd thing about the powder being discontinued is that it is still listed on IMR's website.

fryboy
11-09-2015, 12:12 AM
It will be for quite some time ,even no w 20 years on accurate has data for the original data powder 2200 ,even better they finally added new manufactured of the same name ( sans the word "data" )
I too went without lunch for a heap o long time to get all I could before 4759 was gone,even worse... Many of the so called accuracy loads in the newest Lyman cast manual list it as "the powder"

VintageRifle
11-12-2015, 08:13 PM
They just got a new shipment of Tail Boss. Now I have to make a decision. Hmm...

oldblinddog
11-12-2015, 11:35 PM
If you don't want it, buy it and swap it to someone who does :mrgreen:

Buckshot
11-14-2015, 02:41 AM
..............Years ago when surplus powders were much more common I bought 16 lbs of what was labeled 'Surplus IMR 4198'. Beginning testing proved it MUCH slower then the real IMR-4198 I had on hand. In fact it was very similar to IMR-3031. Awhile after that Bartlett listed Surplus IMR-4759 (6 lb jugs).

Having been disappointed with the so called Surplus IMR-4198 (not that it was't usable), just wasn't anything like IMR-4198. So I ordered a single 6lb jug of the Surp 4759 to fool with, along with some other stuff. Turned out that the Surplus 4759 WAS in fact the same as canister SR-4759 :-) I immediately called him up and ordered 4 x 6lb jugs of it. Since I can no longer shoot every Tuesday, I suspect I have enough to last the remainder of my shooting career.

.................Buckshot

swheeler
11-14-2015, 12:35 PM
or you could just bring back burrito tuesday!

Buckshot
11-16-2015, 04:47 AM
or you could just bring back burrito tuesday!

...............I'd STILL be shooting every Tuesday with the gang if a developer hadn't shut the range down! Serves him right though. He and his outfit went bankrupt not long afterwards. What goes around comes around!

..............Buckshot

lotech
11-16-2015, 09:49 AM
SR4759 is certainly an excellent cast bullet rifle powder. Like many others, I've used it for years. However, I suspect some serious load development and fine-tuning using Reloder 7, AA5744, one of the 4198s, or perhaps other similar powders will yield equivalent accuracy and velocity in most, if not all applications.

Shuz
11-17-2015, 11:31 AM
I'd buy it! I'm working on my last 5 lb jug of IMR 4759. Hopefully, IMR/Hodgdon will bring it backdue to demand. Have any of you seen the recent price on AA5744? Out here it is about $34.00/lb at Cabelas!

VintageRifle
11-17-2015, 12:19 PM
working on a trade deal to pick it up.

VintageRifle
12-14-2015, 09:20 PM
Picked it all up yesterday.

9w1911
12-14-2015, 10:56 PM
I think it is done, I have not seen it for sale lately.

35 shooter
12-14-2015, 11:14 PM
4759 shoots very accurate in my 35 whelen. I did wind up using a dacron filler for best accuracy, but it was well worth the extra step.

Lol i had worked up several loads from 1600 to 2200 fps., then got word it was discontinued.
I still buy it when i can find it. Hope they bring it back into production one day.

VintageRifle
12-15-2015, 10:13 AM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/15/da343914833d02b63a623a7aa428bc66.jpg

5 total. Picked one up earlier and not with this group.

Rattlesnake Charlie
12-15-2015, 11:03 AM
Last Saturday morning, I found two 8 oz cans of IMR SR 4759 at the gun show in Albuquerque. The guy sold them both to me for $30. I intend to find out if it is really better than all other powders for cast bullets in my .45-70. I believe that IMR 5744 is supposed to be the "replacement" powder for 4759.

Char-Gar
12-15-2015, 11:28 AM
4759 was developed for the military to use in reduced loads with frangible bullets in the 30-06 round. These rounds were used mainly for aerial gun practice, where the bullets were supposed to break up on the skin of an airplane is they were hit. They didn't always break up.

At any rate the powder was good for this purpose because of it's burning rate and bulk. Because of this, it was the "go to" cast bullet powder for several generations and is still one of the best. It is not "the best", but neither is there any powder that is demonstrably better.

I am still working on several original Dupont "kegs". It is very good stuff for cast bullet applications in medium to large capacity rifle rounds. It has also been used in large capacity revolver cartridges with good results accuracy wise.