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Landy
10-24-2015, 07:49 PM
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Color case hardening is pretty too.

http://www.meachamrifles.com/Decapper.html

Anyone use or have one? Does it work well?

jmort
10-24-2015, 08:48 PM
I have never seen this tool. I'm a sucker for hand tools. Thanks for the info. Learn something new...

country gent
10-24-2015, 10:01 PM
I have one of the 2 handled "Pope" style capper decappers works like a charm and is easy to use. I use mine alot at the range to decap BPCR cases before I put them into the soap water. Its one of those tools that while not needed is really handy and convienent to have. Decappers can be made fairly easily from hardware store materials off the shelf and a drill press.

Dale53
10-25-2015, 05:59 PM
I have several of similar types and often used them at the range and during and after matches. As was mentioned by Country Gent, they are perfect for decapping black powder cases before dropping them in a milk jug of water and Dawn Dishwashing liquid. By the time you get home the cases are ready to rinse and dry before tumbling.

Label them "VERY USEFUL"...

Dale53

Landy
10-25-2015, 06:15 PM
Good reviews for a good gadget - what else are you BPCR guys hiding from the rest of us?

John Boy
10-25-2015, 06:43 PM
A good tool if one only has a couple of caliber rifles. But for those that have many - a very expensive expense!
If I go to a range for a week with many caliber rifles - the Lee Loader decap chamber and the thinnest decapping pin is my method to only decap
151845151846 Total cost =10 bucks
If not decapped at the range: Lee Universal Decapper and Auto Primer at home! Cost = 36 bucks

Ickisrulz
10-25-2015, 07:32 PM
I will mention the Harvey Deprimer (like I always do). No shell holders to buy and works very well.

mdi
10-26-2015, 01:09 PM
Cool! I have seen less useful, but more costly tools for reloaders. But being a "hand tool nut" I think I'd like to have one, after all, money isn't everything...

Green Frog
10-26-2015, 02:53 PM
Landy, mdi, et al, the tool shown by the OP is a modern reproduction of one made popular boy the great rifle builder Harry Pope before the turn of the last century and "resurrected" in the later part of the century by the late Jake Simmons. A good number of the Schuetzen (single shot) community use them... I have two or three of his myself. That design or one of the ones like those from Schoyen or Peterson are very efficient for whatever de-capping and re-capping duties you have. This later version shown by the OP has the advantage of using standard shell holders as well.

Froggie

Mytmousemalibu
10-26-2015, 04:52 PM
I also have a Harvey Deprimer and I love the thing! It is a great tool to have around and feedss my reloading tool addiction. It is a Deprimer only but it does its job well after you get the hang of it and as a plus, no shellholders needed. Its satisfying sitting at the couch with a bucket of brass and poping fired primers into the bin and empty brass into the next batch to tumble. I hate dirty primer pockets and want them clean so the primers seat properly without risk of old residue cushioning the impact of the next primer.

That Pope tool is a beautifully made tool, i love the color case hardening!

country gent
10-26-2015, 07:45 PM
The only draw back to the pope style with shell holders if like mine they have to be disassembled to change shell holders. But the shell holder isnt used for depriming just a shoulder that catches the rim and the rod pin pushes out the primer. I have one decapper only that I made its a pliers type. Works very good. Im working on one that will catch the spent primers and contain them 100%. This one will be able to be made from hardware store items and simple hand tools. There are several styles of these tool out there and all work some better than others.

mdi
10-27-2015, 12:31 PM
Landy, mdi, et al, the tool shown by the OP is a modern reproduction of one made popular boy the great rifle builder Harry Pope before the turn of the last century and "resurrected" in the later part of the century by the late Jake Simmons. A good number of the Schuetzen (single shot) community use them... I have two or three of his myself. That design or one of the ones like those from Schoyen or Peterson are very efficient for whatever de-capping and re-capping duties you have. This later version shown by the OP has the advantage of using standard shell holders as well.

Froggie
Yep, saw my first one in the early '90s but had no cash in my pocket back then. At that time I was only using the bare necessities to get reloads (single stage press (primed on the press), Lee dies, and most of my brass processing tools were home made).

Green Frog
10-27-2015, 09:21 PM
For those of us who re-prime and refill a single case with powder to place behind a breech seated bullet, a "re- and de-" was a super important accessory on the bench. You also need a good powder measure and a breech seating tool of some sort of tool to seat the bullet in the throat of the barrel. Several different varieties of re- & de have been made over the last few decades, and each has its strengths and weaknesses, but the proprietary shell holders and/or the means of changing them were pretty important if one is using them on more than one caliber. That's why I have 3 of Jake's and one from Dave Arawinko, as well as various de-cappers (only) and re-cappers (only.) "My name is Froggie and I am a tool-a-holic." :D

GOPHER SLAYER
10-27-2015, 09:45 PM
I have two of the Pope style tools. They were made by Charles Pool of Los Angeles. I bought the first one from a co-worker and it cost me $100 and two antique phones. I bought the second one in a gun show two weeks later for $15. Charles thought his Nephew how to make the tools and left him his machinery when he passed. the nephew made me some shell holders and deprimers for the 45-70 and 44 SPL. I don't know if he still makes the tool or not. The nephew still has the records of who each tool was made for. I wouldn't take anything for mine.

Artful
10-28-2015, 12:20 AM
for those looking
http://www.meachamrifles.com/Decapper.html


Pope Style Re-DeCapping Tool
http://www.meachamrifles.com/DecapHand_for_Stead.jpg

http://www.meachamrifles.com/DCappingHand_for_Stead.jpg
FONT=Georgia]An authentic color case hardened tool for removing spent primers and seating new primers. Uses standard shell holders and extra decapping rods are available so one tool can be converted to be used for many cartridges.

Available for:

50-70 to 50-90

45-70 to 45-100

45 x 3 1/4

40-65

40-70

38-55

32-40

[/FONT]
Pope Style Re-DeCapping Tool


An authentic color case hardened tool for removing spent primers and seating new primers. Uses standard shell holders and extra decapping rods are available so one tool can be converted to be used for many cartridges.

Available for:

50-70 to 50-90

45-70 to 45-100

45 x 3 1/4

40-65

40-70

38-55

32-40

and many more

http://www.harveydeprimer.com/
UNIVERSAL HAND HELD DEPRIMING TOOL

$49.95 plus postage

No dies or shell holders required

Fits most modern cases, no other parts to buy

Sort cases while depriming

Freedom from the reloading bench depriming.

Currently, depriming requires a bench press and can be combined with another step, such as re-sizing. Now depriming can be a separate step away from the press, allowing you to focus on each important step separately.

The Harvey deprimer is convenient, fast and easy to use.

Specifications:
Weight: 11 ounces

Outside Length: 5 inches
Outside width: 1 inch

Depriming pin diameter: .07"

Constructed from 01 tool steel heat treated to Rockwell 50C

Maximum case length: 3.075 inches

Maximum case width: .62 inches

Maximum case rim: .75 inches

Machined from a solid block of 6061 aluminum.

Black anodized finish provides a durable protective finish that resists scratching, chipping, and abrasive cleaning solvents.

Built to last and manufactured in Oregon


ORDER AT THE ONLINE STORE OR BY MONEY ORDER/CHECK TO:

Harvey Deprimer
115 W. Airport Road
Lebanon, Oregon 97355
$49.95 PLUS $6.00 SHIPPING AND HANDLING


PICTURES:

Top left: Open Deprimer next to a .338 Win Mag and .380

Middle left: Deprimer closed

Bottom left: Case on the left cleaned with primer intact.
Case on the right cleaned after primer removed.

Top right: Deprimed .338 Winchester Magnum
http://www.harveydeprimer.com/images/img_9683_338_ac_unibody_l8mu_k9wo_g332_itr3_jr5i.j pg
Top right, second down: Deprimed .380

Top right, third down: Top view looking inside the Deprimer with .338 Win Mag inside.
http://www.harveydeprimer.com/images/img_9738_closed_top_ac_unibody_j96x_2ftk_jndz_ryaj _rr5s_sjdz.png

Bottom right: Abrasive dirt and grime from the primer pockets of fifty 9mm cases. This debris normally falls into your dies and reloading press.

Landy
10-28-2015, 12:23 AM
Even elegance and efficiency must accommodate some standards, as does this tool with shellholders.

The RCBS shell holder and the 7/8" die are so standardized that any tool that doesn't accommodate them has a hard roe to hoe in the market as does its user.

Even the excellent Lyman 5/8" based gear that was, actually, here first; survives only in a small niche.

Artful
10-28-2015, 12:32 AM
Charles S Pool was making and supplying both re-decappers and straight line seating tools with Micrometer heads from about the mid 50's to late 60's.

The Story Of The Pool Tool By Gerald A Cleave was an article published in Precision Shooting March 1998 and it gives a full description of the Tools made.

The re-de primer evolved and at one time also included sizing dies.

If you happen to have that issue there are plenty of pictures for one to review. Charles S Pool of which he referred to as Uncle Charlie left him his lathe and tooling to carry on with making more tools to Gerald. He has made some for his local shooting group and Uncle Charlie turned out 322 tools in total for some well known shooters such as Graf Hollidge, Clyde Harte, Gene Beecher, Frank Hubberd to name a few.

If anyone owns a Pool Tool you can send Mr. Gerald Cleave an SASE with a couple of stamps and the serial number and he can tell when and whom it was made for. The making of the Tools was a past time to keep him busy doing something after his retirement and at one point Remington Arms working with Uncle Charlie to start producing the tools.

http://benchrest.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12023&d=1323956670
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The original designer for that tool was Mr Pope and it was listed in the sixth handloaders digest as being made by Jerry Simmons.

Artful
10-28-2015, 12:45 AM
The pliers type decapping tools are sort of interesting as well
Home made
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/Pixel1200/IMGP1875.jpg (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Pixel1200/media/IMGP1875.jpg.html)
From Midway direct from China...no doubt
http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/handdeprime1402.jpg

And don't forget all the Ideal/Lyman hand tools.

Landy
10-28-2015, 03:36 AM
From the pdf of the 1962 'Handloader's Digest' we see Pope's basic design pushed a bit farther:152021

GOPHER SLAYER
10-28-2015, 08:24 PM
Here are the hand priming tools I wrote about in my previous post. The man I bought my first set from ordered it for the 22-250 cartridge. The three shell holders on the right are for another priming tool. Possibly the Simmons. As you can see in the picture he also bought the sizing and seating tools for the 22-250. I don't know why. The man was just different. I had Gerald Cleave make me shell holders for the 44-spl and 45-70.

Landy
10-28-2015, 10:37 PM
Gopher Slayer,

You've a fine set of tools, and the pics are appreciated.

Have you used the sizing and seating attachments?

GOPHER SLAYER
10-29-2015, 12:50 PM
Landy, I have not used the sizing & seating tools for the simple reason that I have never owned a rifle chambered for the 22-250. What is even stranger is the fact that I own two sets of RCBS 22-250 dies. I got them when I bought someone's collection of reloading tools. I do use the sizing die from one of those to neck size other 22 cartridges.

g5m
10-30-2015, 10:59 AM
I have never seen this tool. I'm a sucker for hand tools. Thanks for the info. Learn something new...

I recognize that!
Looks like a very nice tool.

gpidaho
10-30-2015, 02:46 PM
I use the new Frankford Arsenal depriming tool and after a few problems at first (make sure the catch cup is well seated) have come to like the tool. Just hold it cup down in use so primers don't fall back out the hole. If you have room on your bench, an old press or a cheap one is still the best option in my opinion but for a hand tool I feel the FA tool is worth it's price. Gp

freedom475
11-04-2015, 08:00 PM
[QUOTE=Landy;
Color case hardening is pretty too.




Anyone use or have one? Does it work well?[/QUOTE]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151796&d=1445729460

This is what I use for my sharps rifles (45 cals)....love it!!! I think it was expensive when I bought it. BUT I have long since forgotten the price and I really enjoy it for loading my Sharps!!

http://www.buffaloarms.com/pope_style_re_and_de_cappers_pr-4013.aspx

ArcticGoose
11-04-2015, 08:47 PM
I've never seen these tools before, very interesting. When you find one, what kind of price does the Pool version bring these days? Are they very sought after?