Present Day: After The 1996 Austalia Gun Grab

[Bonz]

http://louderwithcrowder.com/australian-gun-ownership-rises-gun-crime-remains-low-america-still-at-fault/

I was surprised when I read this.

[jmort]

I'm not only because in England they have to keep changing the laws to the point of the absurd, illegal butter knife, and the citizens are punching bags/pin cushions for the thugs. A defenseless population of emasculated drones.

[Col4570]

I'm not only because in England they have to keep changing the laws to the point of the absurd, illegal butter knife, and the citizens are punching bags/pin cushions for the thugs. A defenseless population of emasculated drones.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/livebattery/Cabinet%20001.jpg (http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/livebattery/media/Cabinet%20001.jpg.html)
The reality.

[perotter]

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/livebattery/Cabinet%20001.jpg (http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/livebattery/media/Cabinet%20001.jpg.html)
The reality.

Doesn't appear to be handguns nor anything suitable there for militia duty.

[dragon813gt]

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/livebattery/Cabinet%20001.jpg (http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/livebattery/media/Cabinet%20001.jpg.html)
The reality.

All well and good. But don't you need permission to have them? I see no handguns or semiautomatics. I don't expect people in Europe to understand the freedom we have here. You have been living under the thumb of some entity seemingly forever. I can go to the LGS and buy any non NFA item I want right now and it comes home w/ me. Is this the case where you live?

[Col4570]

Doesn't appear to be handguns nor anything suitable there for militia duty.
No Handguns or Military Rifles but they all shoot and are legal.

[dubber123]

No Handguns or Military Rifles but they all shoot and are legal.

I for one am glad you are able to shoot, and it looks like you have an interesting collection.

I am still very thankful for my right to buy pretty much whatever I want and bring it home minutes later.

[Col4570]

No Handguns or Military Rifles but they all shoot and are legal.
Yes if I take my Certificate to the LGS,I can take home anything I want providing it is not an Auto rifle or a Hand gun.This fits in with my shooting hoby,I have no wish to own Automatic Firearms but those who want to use them could join the Army.Bolt Action Rifles and Single shot Rifles are the norm here.I enjoy my shooting and rotate them often so they get used in turn.

[Walkingwolf]

Yes if I take my Certificate to the LGS,I can take home anything I want providing it is not an Auto rifle or a Hand gun.This fits in with my shooting hoby,I have no wish to own Automatic Firearms but those who want to use them could join the Army.Bolt Action Rifles and Single shot Rifles are the norm here.I enjoy my shooting and rotate them often so they get used in turn.

Well it appears you cannot take home anything you want.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-r-5kB1Sz0

[bob208]

the problem is between freedom and semi-free. when they tell you what you can buy and what type and make you have a license or have to ask permission then you are on the low side of semi-free.

[perotter]

No Handguns or Military Rifles but they all shoot and are legal.

Most of the shooting I do is of course at targets. When doing that I shoot rifles free hand and mainly use a lever action and sometimes a bolt action. Normally fill the tube on the lever action, but on the bolt actions I just put one in before I shoot. I practice with the military rifles, but enjoy it as much as the lever action .357.

For hunting deer my favorite rifle is a self loader and do practice on a routine basis with it. Of course a hand gun is handy for when one might need a gun, but have one isn't a primary concern. Where I live we are subject to militia call up until age 64 and would have to provide my own suitable arm. The state where my farm is and where I'll like move to in a few years has no upper age limit for militia duty.

Plus, I'm very interested in gun design and bought more than a few just to study them.

ps
What actually collect and may or may not shoot is the 1868 up to the Mauser 98 European military bolt actions. These are mainly black powder and inexpensive. Those I can shoot are fun to do so and shows how good a gun can shoot after 125+ years of being made.

Thanks for showing your collection.

[9w1911]

Not true, Australia is a violent free utopia.

[Col4570]

Well it appears you cannot take home anything you want.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-r-5kB1Sz0

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/livebattery/Sharps%2045.70%20001.jpg (http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/livebattery/media/Sharps%2045.70%20001.jpg.html)
Yes Quigly down under was a great movie.I love my Sharps in 45.70,she shoots good too.The snooty English Officer was a bit over the top I thought.Mel Gibson also prescribes to this formula with his movies.

[Col4570]

Noticed Jack Elam on one of the clips,he could fit in any western parts,a great character actor sadly gone now.

[Col4570]

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s452/livebattery/002-20.jpg (http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/livebattery/media/002-20.jpg.html) This is a Mauser 71 action I made use of it is is in 45.70.not original but interesting.

[Artful]

No Handguns or Military Rifles but they all shoot and are legal.
Do people collect non-shooting firearms in the UK?

[Col4570]

Do people collect non-shooting firearms in the UK?
Antique Firearms are off ticket (no license needed)but if you wish to shoot them they must be added to your permit.Replicas of Antiques ie Colt Navys Remingtons etc must go on to the permit on purchase.Your question.Non Shooting Firearms,People do collect them but it is not my Cup of Tea.A recent law states that an antique Firearm cannot be sold to a felon (anybody who has had his/her collar felt).This is to be worked on since the seller cannot know if the purchaser has a criminal record.I shoot most Sundays at the Range,we have up to 500Yards starting at 100,200,300 and 500 yards.We have an indoor Range at 25 yards for Black Powder Pistols.Some weekend I shoot Clays with both Black Powder Percussion and Flintlock Shotguns,I also shoot modern Over and Under and side by side Shotguns.

[jonp]

Doesn't appear to be handguns nor anything suitable there for militia duty.
They all look suitable for militia duty to me

[downunderrunner]

australia is a socialist hellhole far worse thank the peoples republik of kommiefornia! trust me, i live there, its the safest place to be a criminal in the world! self defence is for all practical intents and purposes, illegal, firearms are rediculously restricted and expensive ( $600usd colt AR, will cost you 12k aus, IF you can get the license category to own it)!


now they're coming after our leaver actions..................

we need help, in a big way, please send the marines!!!!!!

[sav300]

downunderrunner,
re:firearms fair (gun show) maitland this week end.
Last year a licensed holder/shooter could sell his surplus firearms,as long as the buyer had a PTA (permit to aqiure).
This year Firearms registry fixed that with more regulations.Now only a Dealer collector or a ammo collector can sell.

Before gun laws,home invasion was a very small percentage ofr crime,now it is the major crime.Cause we cannot use a firearm or a stick to defend ourselves.

[458mag]

trip to aussie was on my bucket list. think i'll find something else now.

[Col4570]

The Drug culture has had a large effect on legitimate Gun ownership.In the UK we watch a program called Anything to declare,It is about Australian customs and exise fighting a never ending battle against the smuggling of Drugs into the country.Coupled with many who ilegaly try to enter the country,using concocted stories.many test positive for drug use,some conceal the stuff on their bodies some internaly.With this background canvas the authorities are getting jumpy about Gun ownership.Once again Law abiding people have to bear the brunt.In the UK after the Banning of Hanguns Gun crime actualy increased,many firearms found their way from the former Soviet Block countrys at the break up of the soviet Union.I am an old man now and can see that during my time the world has become a more dangerous place and it has never been the case that Law enforcement can protect citizens on a one to one basis.Coupled with the looneys in the Middle East looking to the west as targets for their twisted ideaology.

[Artful]

I am an old man now and can see that during my time the world has become a more dangerous place and it has never been the case that Law enforcement can protect citizens on a one to one basis. Coupled with the looneys in the Middle East looking to the west as targets for their twisted ideaology.

Yes, it's not the world I grew up in
- And we never made it to the age of George Jetson.
http://www.artinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/The_Jetsons_Jetset_Jetsons.jpg
And I am disappointed. I think we are heading for the world of Mad Max and WaterWorld.
http://hdwallpapersimage.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/hdwallpapersimage.com-mad-max-wide-hd-wallpaper-1920x1080.jpg

[Geezer in NH]

This thread makes me realize the term Fudds is for sure real IMHO

[sav300]

458mag,dont put off a trip down under !Lots of things to do and see.other than hunting.If you want a hunting safari.There are companies and guides here.
A bit of paper work involved.

[daniel lawecki]

Well fought for freedom and we will keep it. The heck with what works for other countries if I wanted there gun rules I would move there.

[fryboy]

sadly no matter the country the war on drugs isnt so much a war against drugs ( note the ones that the powers deem legal ones are still ok even tho they are much abused and often worse and that many many synthetic types of cannabis are/were legal and much much worse than what they're trying to imitate ) but rather a war against the people taking advantages of emotions to further the police state and gain more control over the people , in a nutshell they're trying to subvert basic nature and replace it with control and the war on drugs will never ( ever ) be won , the casualties are the people, human rights and freedom ,in fact by design the war on drugs actually makes more people ( especially the young and easily impressed ) end up trying/doing drugs , it's a viscous cycle worse than welfare ,just as the prohibition of guns makes the criminal element more inclined to get/use them and even if you managed to take them all away ( you know ..in the land of unicorns and rainbows ) they'll still find a way to make them - just as they make zip guns in prison
gee art you had to remind me that i still want my george jettson car lolz

[destrux]

Meanwhile Russia is lightening their gun laws to allow for self defense and concealed carry and it's lowering their crime rates... http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=18623

I hope we never get to the point where we have to hope for Russia to invade us.

[fatelk]

Yes if I take my Certificate to the LGS,I can take home anything I want providing it is not an Auto rifle or a Hand gun.This fits in with my shooting hoby,I have no wish to own Automatic Firearms but those who want to use them could join the Army.Bolt Action Rifles and Single shot Rifles are the norm here.I enjoy my shooting and rotate them often so they get used in turn.

Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. A lot of people have the mistaken belief that the left wants to ban all guns, round them up and take them all away.

That's not the case. The reality is that they just want to know and control who has what. That way they can neuter the people while still allowing the financially able or well-connected to have their toys.

Added: No offense intended, Col4570. That is a nice collection!