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Bzcraig
10-10-2015, 08:08 PM
Finally got out and shot it. I'm in love all over again with the 1911, went way too long without one!

c1skout
10-10-2015, 08:58 PM
Looks good, how'd you shoot?

Bzcraig
10-10-2015, 10:20 PM
Looks good, how'd you shoot?

was able to put factory 230's and 200gr swc loaded with Bullseye and Unique in 2" groups of 8 from 10yds off hand pretty easy

Babbott213
10-13-2015, 03:08 PM
Too bad Para is no more now. I have four Para's and cherish them. Gone forever now though.

Lloyd Smale
10-13-2015, 03:22 PM
Had a p40 and it was a great gun. Always wanted to play with a lda para but the opportunity to buy one never came up and moneys to tight anymore.

M-Tecs
10-13-2015, 04:23 PM
Too bad Para is no more now. I have four Para's and cherish them. Gone forever now though.

Last I read Para USA was "intergrated" into Remington's Huntsville, Alabama facility.

Babbott213
10-13-2015, 04:26 PM
Last I read Para USA was "intergrated" into Remington's Huntsville, Alabama facility.

No, Remington bought Para, and dissolved the Para name and only keeping a few of the models, but they will be called Remington instead. This is from people that worked at Para, and now working for Remington. Para is forever gone.

M-Tecs
10-13-2015, 07:04 PM
Time will tell what Para products Remington keeps. I am not impressed with Remingtons current QC or product line.

http://bearingarms.com/breaking-remington-brings-para-usa-fold-para-brand-eliminated/

There were rumors posted on some gun forums last week that Para USA was “going under” and that Para USA double-column 1911-style pistols would no longer be made.
We can now put those rumors to rest thanks to a very candid press release from Remington.

At Remington Outdoor Company (“ROC”) we develop, manufacture and market the highest quality firearms, ammunition, and related products. We have built ROC by acquiring and cultivating great brands and products, such as the Remington 870 and 700, DPMS rifles, AAC suppressors, Barnes Bullets ammunition, Para USA handguns, and more while continuously investing in our people and facilities. In 2011 Remington re-entered the handgun market with the critically acclaimed R1 1911, an updated version of the 1911 Remington made for the US government in World War I. Most of ROC’s new product launches and acquisitions have gone well, but they aren’t always perfect and, candidly, we did a poor job with the Marlin factory relocation and the R51 launch. These were expensive but valuable.
In 2012, with a goal of expanding its handgun line, ROC acquired Para USA (“Para”), a company that specialized in the production of competition, high capacity, and double action 1911-style pistols. Following Remington’s acquisition, Para, which had been experiencing quality control issues, saw a steep decline in warranty claims.
In 2014, ROC announced its new, world-class firearms center of excellence in Huntsville, Alabama. Here, Remington is integrating product development, engineering, production, and quality control – a first in Remington’s 200-year history. The integration of modern sporting rifles, suppressors, and Remington pistols commenced immediately, and Para is scheduled to move to Huntsville next month.
Para’s products have a strong following due to their key technical and performance features, which are different than many 1911s, including Remington’s own R1 line. ROC intends to keep these features and benefits that our customers have come to trust, while transferring Para’s operations to Huntsville and rebranding Para to Remington. We have learned from our mistakes, listened to our customers, and have a clear plan to smoothly integrate Para. This includes keeping popular Para products, characteristics, and names such as the “Warthog,” while improving quality with state-of-the art machining and engineering in Huntsville, AL.
Further, ROC will recognize and continue to support Para’s Lifetime Warranty promise on all Para handguns.
In other words, Remington is integrating Para USA’s pistols into the Remington 1911 line.
I think that this is going to be a great thing for fans of both Remington and Para USA.
Para has long been knocked by serious shooters for inconsistent quality control, and bringing the line in-house at the new Huntsville, AL location should make it easier to address those concerns and churn out a consistently higher quality pistol. I’ve recently fired an R1 (Remington’s 1911) and I was impressed by the fit and finish of the pistol.
If this merger results in a single, much broader product line with better quality control, then I think this has to be viewed as a win for shooters

Babbott213
10-13-2015, 07:42 PM
A lot of us die hard Para fans are not real happy. I bought my first tricked out Para P12-45 back in 2000 or 2001. Now I have Three along with a Warthog in 45 as well. I shall keep these as long as I can. Anyone that's on Facebook, there's a group page there that's dedicated to Para as well. Look it up. The Admin's name is Robert. He has a lot of connections to the guys that worked at Para and some of them are in the group as well.

M-Tecs
10-13-2015, 07:50 PM
I have two P14-45's that I am very happy with. I also want an LPA. I hope Remington doesn't F what remains of Para like they have with most of their current products.

Babbott213
10-13-2015, 08:13 PM
Yep!!

Bzcraig
10-14-2015, 12:02 AM
My first Para was a P12 as well and probably miss it more than the others I've sold!

shoot-n-lead
10-14-2015, 12:11 AM
I am a Para fan as well. I love the one's that I have and hate to see them go away. Never really been a Remington fan and I certainly will not be buying a Remington Para...rather have a "rock solid" Rock Island...at least, I know it will work.