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Good Cheer
09-19-2015, 08:29 AM
I have a liberated single shot that is chambered for a shortened version of the 9.5x60 paper patched Mauser military round. I want to get a liner put in to rejuvenate the pitted barrel.
Anyone know who can make a 9.5 liner and who can do the reline job?

Frank46
09-19-2015, 11:34 PM
9.5mm usually equates to .375 so a .375 or maybe a 38-55 liner may be what your looking for. Contact John Taylor @ taylormachine.com or check his website out. I haven't used him but those who have done so are very happy with the results. Hopes this helps. Pretty sure he uses TJ's liners so that is another plus. Frank

Good Cheer
09-20-2015, 06:42 AM
Hey yeh, was looking at the specs on an older copy (May '09) of TJ's liners price sheet just before starting the topic and pondering the possibilities. That 9.5 is really an in between, right there 'tween .375 and .40. Maybe I should give them a call to see if they've added 9.5 to their line up (oh, bad pun) in the last half a decade.

Another possibility is that seeing as I will probably have to pay for a reamer any how, maybe I need to see what the inside neck diameter is on the formed Mauser "A" base cases after sizing and before using the expander die. If the inside diameter on the formed case is small enough then maybe I could just go with .368 or .372 bore such as TJ's 38-55 barrels shown on that '09 sheet. Or perhaps as an alternative, a .375 barrel liner with the grooves cut a little oversized would do well. The grooves might be deep but in days gone by before jacketed slugs that was not an unusual situation.

For sure and certain I'd rather get back to original with a .389-.390 groove diameter but it might not be the practical path. I will continue to search for the smith to make it happen. And I should send Mr. Taylor an inquiry. He certainly did a great job on an 1858 for me a while back.

Ballistics in Scotland
09-20-2015, 07:44 AM
There a host of 9.5mm. cartridges for German single shot rifles, probably more than are documented in any way nowadays, and if you want to stay original there is certainly no substitute for slugging the bore. Dimensions are often misquoted, and copied from one book to another, for while there is copyright on text and pictures, there isn't on figures. The presence, absence or thickness of a patch, when they measure diameter, can often mislead. I think many, such as the 9.5x47 which is probably commonest, had a .375in. bullet diameter, but the military 9.5x60R Turkish is quoted at .389in.

You can find the full range of TJ's liners on www.trackofthewolf.com (http://www.trackofthewolf.com) , in case there have been any additions since 2009. They are made by hammer forging onto a rifled mandrel, so special diameters are unlikely.

Good Cheer
09-20-2015, 01:32 PM
TJ's certainly are hammer forged. If he has added a 9.5 to his line up since 2009 it would be wonderful. But, realistically, why would he?
The alternative is to find someone that is set up to cut rifling that is of bore diameter for 9.5 or (big if) perhaps the inside diameter of the sized brass will be small enough to use .375 boolits. Found the dies in storage this morning so at least I can find out about the inside diameter.
This would be a great cartridge formed from .458 Winchester brass.

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/SNARGLEFLERK/chamber%20casting_zpsx6wqnnnq.jpg (http://s791.photobucket.com/user/SNARGLEFLERK/media/chamber%20casting_zpsx6wqnnnq.jpg.html)

Ballistics in Scotland
09-20-2015, 02:13 PM
The use of that brass would certainly be a big advantage. But you should make sure, before laying out money on a lot of it, that the smaller rim would give the extractor an adequate grip. With some it may, and with others not.

Good Cheer
09-20-2015, 08:07 PM
The .458 base would be used in a different action.

The Mauser "A" base is what this rifle is set up for.
Brass Extrusion Labs in Illinois was a good supplier. Much missed.

taco650
09-22-2015, 06:20 PM
TJ's certainly are hammer forged. If he has added a 9.5 to his line up since 2009 it would be wonderful. But, realistically, why would he?
The alternative is to find someone that is set up to cut rifling that is of bore diameter for 9.5 or (big if) perhaps the inside diameter of the sized brass will be small enough to use .375 boolits. Found the dies in storage this morning so at least I can find out about the inside diameter.
This would be a great cartridge formed from .458 Winchester brass.

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/SNARGLEFLERK/chamber%20casting_zpsx6wqnnnq.jpg (http://s791.photobucket.com/user/SNARGLEFLERK/media/chamber%20casting_zpsx6wqnnnq.jpg.html)

Is that a chamber cast for the rifle in question on the die box lid?

Good Cheer
09-23-2015, 05:54 PM
Yes it is.