just baught 3 TC rifles at a sale. ? about .58 bigboar

[fivegunner]

I have 3 new to me TC blackpowder rifles #1 a hawken .50 flintlock in very nice condishion.#2 a TC Bigboar .58. and #3 a TC .50 renegade. The Bigboar has nice rifling in it, I thought they were made with a SB,? anyway can anybody tell me anything about loading for it? I read that it needs 2f blackpowder , Where would I get a RB mold . Thanks for your help:Fire::Fire::Fire::-D:bigsmyl2:

[bubba.50]

as you stated the Big Boar is rifled. the smoothbore Renegade was 56 caliber. Lee has both a .562 and .575 roundball mould. both are available at Midsouth Shooters Supply for 18 bucks each & show to be in stock. most do use 2F in the larger bores. just start at 50 or 60 grains & keep bumpin' it up about 5 grains at a time til ya find the sweet spot. luck to ya & have a good'en, bubba.

[pietro]

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AFAIK, the .56 cal Renegade .56SB was the only smoothbore rifle T/C ever made - for some US states (a few New England & mid-Atlantic states, IIRC ) that, in the late-1960's/early-70's, allowed ony SB muzzleloaders to be used for deer hunting.

Most folks use FFg for bores as large as the .58cal, but I have no experience with a BP rifle with a bore over .54cal (in which I used FFFg successfully, but with lower charges than FFg).

Loads from mild to wild, from T/C:

For Use With .58 Caliber Rifles:

Round Ball Loads

Patches Lubricated with BoreButter

No.11 Percussion Cap, Musket Cap or T/C Flint with 4F (FFFFG)Priming Powder

.570" Diameter Lead Ball

Charges (Grains) For 279 Grain Lead Ball

80 grs. FFG 1302 F.P.S. 1050 Ft. Lbs.
90 grs. FFG 1373 F.P.S. 1168 Ft. Lbs.
100 grs. FFG 1428 F.P.S. 1263 Ft. Lbs.
110 grs. FFG 1519 F.P.S. 1430 Ft. Lbs.
120 grs. FFG 1595 F.P.S. 1576 Ft. Lbs.




Bullets Lubricated with Bore Butter

Use No.11 Percussion Cap, Musket Cap or T/C Flint with 4F (FFFFG)Priming Powder

Black Powder & Maxi-Ball • Maxi-Hunter Loads

Charges (grains) For 555 - 560 Grain Lead Bullet

80 grs. FFG 1093 F.P.S. 1486 Ft. Lbs.
90 grs. FFG 1149 F.P.S. 1642 Ft. Lbs.
100 grs. FFG 1221 F.P.S. 1854 Ft. Lbs.
110 grs. FFG 1282 F.P.S. 2044 Ft. Lbs.
120 grs. FFG 1331 F.P.S. 2203 Ft. Lbs.




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[mooman76]

3f would work but you have to try both to see what works. The old adage that a certain caliber has to have a particular grain as in fff or ff doesn't hold true. Generally the bigger calibers work better with larger grains but sometimes they work as good or better with finer grains. They used to say 50 or larger use 2f but some find that 3f shoots more consistent and cleaner.

[Good Cheer]

Congrads on obtaining a fine stable of smoke poles.

[koger]

Bubba 50 is right on the money, as usual, good advice there.

[smoked turkey]

yep you got three good ones there fivegunner. I for one have sort of wanted to give that 58 Big Bore a run for the money. I would try the .570 RB first and you may find it will serve the purpose whether hunting or just punching paper. However that big .58 just begs for a good conical boolit and a cool frosty morning in the deer woods, or bear woods, or just about for any critter you would go after. Enjoy.

[Pyro&Black]

I thought they were made with a SB,? :Fire::Fire::Fire::-D:bigsmyl2:

What is a a SB?

[NF Hunter]

^^^Smooth Bore

[johnson1942]

use a cotton denim patch coated with alox for that .58 round ball gun, use about 80 grains of 2f black. it will shoot holes in holes and take any thing you want down.

[bigted]

yes I concur ... that 80 grain load seems to percolate in my Zouave as well as my 54. I like that load very much and as stated ... im bettin any goner animal that gets smacked with it will get very sick right away.

[El Bango]

I used a .562 rb, pillow ticking and 80gr fffg in my GRRW Hawken and was very pleased with the turkey I murdered at 70 yards.Hit her in the goozle and that was enough