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DAVE A
09-02-2015, 12:30 PM
I finally got round to making a point form die today so I just thought I'd share
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o495/davarn1/image.jpg1_zpsfjhuhzgl.jpg (http://s1144.photobucket.com/user/davarn1/media/image.jpg1_zpsfjhuhzgl.jpg.html)

kc3ak
09-02-2015, 02:55 PM
nice. I envy you guys that have the tooling and abilities to make your own dies. very well done. my compliments.

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
09-02-2015, 04:12 PM
Very nice! What ogive is that?

DAVE A
09-02-2015, 04:44 PM
Not sure, when I wrote the programme for the reamer I was very new to CNC and just tried to copy the Lapua Scenar ,its not quite there but it's in between the 6s Corbin die I have and the Lapua so I'm guessing 6.5 or maybe 7

rolltide
09-02-2015, 05:11 PM
Well done. At the encouragement of guys in this forum, I am collecting the equipment to make my own dies, but I am not there yet. It is very encouraging to see guys be successful at it. Thanks for posting your pics.

Roll Tide

MrWolf
09-02-2015, 05:15 PM
Nice job! I second the comments about learning to do that someday.

Faret
09-02-2015, 06:14 PM
How did you go about polishing it? Looks like you hardened it also? Looking to make my own also.:bigsmyl2:

DAVE A
09-03-2015, 05:47 AM
I used brass lapps and diamond paste to polish the die before and after hardening.

rasto
09-03-2015, 06:59 AM
Very nice looking bullet with extra small meplat.
It was finished after swaging or it was made in swaging process?

DAVE A
09-03-2015, 07:24 AM
I made the die with a 2mm meplat ,I was worried that extracting the bullet would be difficult but Iv'e had no problems yet.

clodhopper
09-03-2015, 10:06 AM
Two questions, what press does it fit? And did you make it on a lathe or mill?
Your micrometer gives a hint of nice tooling.

I will soon be setting up a small CNC mill with fourth axis in my garage. Thoughts of making a couple swage dies keep swirling through my head. Machine time making dies in a mill would make them very expensive to sell, but a nice project for personal use.

andyt53
09-03-2015, 10:27 AM
Two questions, what press does it fit? And did you make it on a lathe or mill?
Your micrometer gives a hint of nice tooling.

I will soon be setting up a small CNC mill with fourth axis in my garage. Thoughts of making a couple swage dies keep swirling through my head. Machine time making dies in a mill would make them very expensive to sell, but a nice project for personal use.

I have similar questions. I will soon be aquiring a lathe and will be attempting to make my own dies for 45 cal. I'm expecting the first several to be wrong in one way or another, but it still seems like a fun project.

DAVE A
09-03-2015, 10:51 AM
Two questions, what press does it fit? And did you make it on a lathe or mill?
Your micrometer gives a hint of nice tooling.

I will soon be setting up a small CNC mill with fourth axis in my garage. Thoughts of making a couple swage dies keep swirling through my head. Machine time making dies in a mill would make them very expensive to sell, but a nice project for personal use.
The die fits a Corbin S press and it was made on a lathe ,I converted the lathe to cnc myself but most of the machining was done manually from the tail stock except the threads which are a breeze with cnc

RLW
09-03-2015, 12:46 PM
Nice work. The bullets look great. Let us know how they shoot.

30yrcaster
09-08-2015, 07:52 PM
Nice Job!!

How were you able to drill the tiny ejection hole straight? I've always read that's one of the most difficult to get it straight and not have the bit walk.

pretzelxx
09-08-2015, 08:04 PM
Jealous.... Wish I had a machine shop! I'd make all that stuff myself

Casper_SWAT
11-07-2015, 08:03 PM
How do you determine radius on a lathe for the radius cutter?

just bill
11-07-2015, 08:42 PM
It even has a boat tail. Way to go, good looking for home made. Gotta get my lathe set up and get going. Can I borrow your ream?

Bill

DAVE A
11-08-2015, 05:17 AM
It even has a boat tail. Way to go, good looking for home made. Gotta get my lathe set up and get going. Can I borrow your ream?


Bill
Bill if you want to pay for postage from the UK its yours,

Dave.

woody13
11-09-2015, 01:39 AM
Wow what an offer id take you up on a shipping offer like that in a heartbeat.

Slimjim33
11-14-2015, 09:46 AM
Nice one Dave.
I know it has been ages since we had a chat. We must catch up some time!

Slimjim33
11-14-2015, 09:48 AM
How do you determine radius on a lathe for the radius cutter?
Dave used a CNC to make the reamer.

just bill
11-19-2015, 04:09 PM
Dave, it's here, early Christmas. Now I have a greater idea about making reams. If I can help in any way please email/pm me.
Thanks,
Bill

DAVE A
11-20-2015, 07:24 AM
Glad it arrived safely and I hope it works as well for you as it did for me ,
One of my next projects is to make a die set for my 223 and I have been making some reamers and laps, I may even make a video of how I make them if there is any interest. The bullet in the picture is the Sierra 52grn HBPT that I am trying to copy .
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o495/davarn1/36EAACB1-1107-455C-9717-DDC414ED2368_zpsnmmtb1gk.jpg (http://s1144.photobucket.com/user/davarn1/media/36EAACB1-1107-455C-9717-DDC414ED2368_zpsnmmtb1gk.jpg.html)

jimrk
11-20-2015, 10:45 AM
Video would be great.
Did you have a chance to try the program I sent?

DAVE A
11-20-2015, 12:01 PM
Hi Jim ,no I wasn't able to download the file but I am getting on well with CamBam and I am able to alter the G code to suit if needed.

Dave.

jimrk
12-02-2015, 11:42 AM
Nobody else wants to see Dave do his reamer Magic?

Dave, Care to share how-to on your tipping die?

Jim

Faret
12-02-2015, 12:48 PM
I would watch it!

minmax
12-02-2015, 03:21 PM
Most definitely please post a video!!!!

jmsj
12-02-2015, 03:25 PM
I would greatly appreciate a video on making these items!!
jmsj

just bill
12-02-2015, 07:02 PM
I'll get the popcorn.

DAVE A
12-04-2015, 07:05 PM
Very sorry guys but I am waiting on some ATP anti scale coating before I make any more reamers ,
I have been busy though I am making a new jacket making die set ,here is the first piece, a blanking die .
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o495/davarn1/1B1411B8-CE48-42BD-91EE-35880B16CFC3_zpszv80tr7k.jpg (http://s1144.photobucket.com/user/davarn1/media/1B1411B8-CE48-42BD-91EE-35880B16CFC3_zpszv80tr7k.jpg.html)
let me know what you think
Thanks

Dave.

kc3ak
12-04-2015, 07:42 PM
Looks very good. Sort of similar to one I used to have from Corbin. Keep posting on this, I'm interested.

clodhopper
12-04-2015, 07:44 PM
It looks very nice. What is the width of the strip? Do you have to orient the longest part of the punch to the infeed side?

DAVE A
12-04-2015, 09:06 PM
It looks very nice. What is the width of the strip? Do you have to orient the longest part of the punch to the infeed side?
The strip is about 23.5mm and the cutter is 7/8" ,the longest part of the cutter has to be aligned with the ejection port but only because it would be too long the other way round .
I am making these blanks with .9mm strip ,my current die set makes a 25mm blank with .7mm copper and makes a 30 cal jacket of 1.3 before trimming ,my hope is to make a similar length of jacket with a smaller but thicker blank ,if it works then I will be able to get 300 or maybe even 325 jackets out of a 2x1 sheet of copper instead of only 253 .

Dave.

DAVE A
12-04-2015, 09:14 PM
Looks very good. Sort of similar to one I used to have from Corbin. Keep posting on this, I'm interested.
The Corbin die was my inspiration for this ,I made a die that cuts a blank and draws a cup in one go and it works great but the best wall thickness runout I can get is just under 1.5 thou so I am going to try a different approach and draw the cup in a separate die .

Dave.

kc3ak
12-05-2015, 10:22 AM
Very interesting. May I ask where you get your copper? Do you buy strips or sheets and cut your own strips? I'd love to try it again, but on my retired preacher's income, I doubt that will happen. But it sure is interesting.Richard has good prices, but It's all I can do to afford the press and a couple of die sets. Keep up the good work, and let us see how this project goes.

DAVE A
12-05-2015, 11:31 AM
I buy 2x1 sheets on ebay and cut them into strips on a guillotine

kc3ak
12-05-2015, 12:29 PM
One more question... what is the thickness of the sheet that you use? I know Corbin stresses that you must use a certain type of copper sheet, but I'm guessing that's because he sells that type. When you get this perfected, would you be interested in selling a few set? I'm sure there would be a number of members here who would be interested. I would, IF I could afford it.

DAVE A
12-05-2015, 01:07 PM
The copper I am using for this set is .9mm or about .035" and I am hoping to make 1,25" 30 cal jackets ,I know that I can draw a 25mm disc of .7mm or .027" to 1.3", I am only guessing that the smaller diameter but thicker disc will draw to about the same length ,as for selling the dies this is just a hobby at the moment but I would never say never.

Dave.

anotherred
12-05-2015, 03:03 PM
Very interesting stuff, keep the info (and a video) coming.