Ruger P85 accessories (current and discontinued)

[ohland]

One of the purposes of this page is to be my cheat sheet for P85 bling. The supporting purpose is to identify the model number, so one can search the web for old stock. Suprising what is out there... really...

DISCLAIMER! Inclusion, or absence, of any item on this page that is to be used on a Ruger P85 or P85 MKII pistol does not mean anything. It is up to YOU to contact the manufacturer and / or Ruger in order to determine suitability for YOUR firearm -AND- intended use (target, plinking, self-defense).

NOTICE! The P85 is more or less built like a brick outhouse. The factory springs follow that concept. Making your hammer or recoil springs lighter may mean that the P85 will not whack the primer hard enough, or the recoil spring will allow the slide / rod to get battered up due to being too light.


P85 Sight Mounts

JP Enterprises http://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPA-RP/22

JPA-RP/22 JPoint adapter for Ruger "P" series, MKII, MKIII pistols. Not for P345 dovetail.

Redfield RPM-19 Mount for Ruger P89 Series

B-Square Sight Mounts – Discontinued
B-Square Stainless Mount Ruger P85 P/N 12881 (42881?)
B-Square Base Ruger P-85 and P-89 Blue P/N 42880 (12880?)
B-Square T-Slot 23770 Ruger P-85/90 Blue

Millett White Outline Series 100 Adj. Sight System for Ruger P-85 – DISCONTINUED NEEDS MILLETT FRONT SIGHT

“Combo Pak” included front and rear sights.
RP85002 - RP85004 / RP85006

Millett Rear Sight, Ruger P85, 89, 90, 94, .360 Height
RP85003 White
RP85004 Target Outline
RP85008 3 Dot

Millett Front Sight, Ruger Pin-On
RP85006 Orange Bar
RP85005 White Bar
RP85007 Serrated Ramp
RP85009 White Dot

Millet Sight Adjusting Tool - SA00008 or MISA00008

BROWNELLS - MAGNA-TIP MILLETT REAR SIGHT BIT 080-147-000WB Millet Rear Sight Bit
Wheeler Engineering Screwdriver Bit Millet Sight # 796034 (Midway)
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WARNING! The early P-85 (not MkII) slide is milled out to allow access? to firing pin parts. The rear sight holds some spring loaded parts inside. When removing the factory sight, unscrew the locking screw and drive it out, right to left. Be cautious that anything inside is not released... Using a plastic bag over the slide might help to restrain flying parts...

AFAIK, the guns that are MkIIs from the factory are not affected. I think. And now back to the regularily scheduled programme...


Installing Millett Series 100 Adjustable Sights on a Ruger Standard Auto and P-85

The Series 100 adjustable sight system for the Ruger autos will fit all models on the rear sight installation. The Millett front sight will fit all models except bull barrels.

To install the rear sight, first [loosen the allen screw in the Ruger sight!] drive out existing rear sight > FROM RIGHT TO LEFT < (Caution - before tring to install sight, be sure the lock screws clear the bottom of the base or they will score the slide). After clearing the lock screws, if excessive force is required to tap in the sight, remove some of the metal from the base of the sight by sliding the sight across a piece of emery paper. After the sight is installed, tighten the dovetail locking screw with the supplied allen wrench.

NOTE: The P-85 rear sight I picked up has NO lock screws whatsoever. The only hole in the bottom of the sight's dovetail is a through hole for the elevation screw. Again, when removing the stock Ruger rear sight, back out the allen screw in the Ruger sight BEFORE attempting to drift the Ruger sight out!

Front sight does not need to be replaced on adjustable models unless you so desire; new sight REQUIRED on P-85.

To install front sight, first remove retainer pin[s] from front sight mount, using a 1/16" or slightly smaller punch. Place new Millett front in sight mount. Use small C clamp to hold sight alignment while drilling front sight. Do not overtighten clamp or you may distort mount [distorting P-85 slide would take a hydraulic press, IMHO]. Drill a 1/16" hole using the hole in the sight mount as a guide. Drill hole all the way through Millett sight.

Drive [both] 1/16" pin[s] through the sight and installation is complete.
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Pachmayr Accu-Set Adjustable Rear Sight for Ruger P85 DISCONTINUED
RP85-1 "Target" black rear and front?
RP85-2 White Outline
RP85-3 3 Dot sight

[B]LPA Sights http://www.lpasights.com/
TTF85RU Fiber Optic Sight Set Ruger P85, P89 (Green fiber rear, orange fiber front)
SPR85RU07 Black Target Sight Set Ruger P85-P89 (Black blade & black front ramp)
SPR85RU18 White outline rear, white ramp front.
SPR85RU30 Two dot rear, dot front (3 dot sight)

WILL NOT WORK!
Williams Dovetail Green Rear & Red Front Fire Sight For Ruger P-Series pistols (except Model p85!) #56360 will NOT work on the P85!

Ruger http://shopruger.com/Sights-Lights-Lasers/products/1403/
80620 P-Series HiViz® Front Sight - Red
80621 P-Series HiViz® Front Sight - Green

Grips:

Hogue, Inc. http://www.hogueinc.com/grips/ruger/p85
Ruger P85 - P91 Rubber grip with Finger Grooves Black P/N 85000
Ruger P85 - P91 Fancy Hardwoods
Ruger P85 - P91 Extreme G10 Plastic laminate
Ruger P85 - P91 Extreme Series, Aluminum
Ruger P85 - P91 Grip Screws, Black or Stainless Steel

Uncle Mike’s Custom Grade Grips for Ruger P85, P89, P90, P91 #59503

Pachmayr http://www.pachmayr.com/home/index.php
Signature Ruger P85 P89 & P90 Wrap around w/ backstrap Pistol Grips P/N P-89 (Discontinued?)
Ruger P85 P/N 05108 #3 Slip-On (Finger Grooves) Current

147641
Please note the protrusion (eg. nipple) that sticks out of the rear of the recoil rod. This nipple fits into the barrel lug.

Stainless Steel Rod Guides http://ssguiderods.com/
Ruger P85, P89, P90 Stainless Steel Guide Rod
Ruger P85, P89, P90 Stainless Steel Guide Rod Black Nitride

EFK Fire Dragon http://www.efkfiredragon.com/ruger.html
EFK Fire Dragon Frame Saver Dual Action Recoil Springs For Ruger P85, P89 9mm

Sprinco USA http://www.sprinco.com/recoil.html
Sprinco Recoil Management Guide Rod System
18014 Ruger P-85 / P-89 (Early Models w/ Protruding Rod Back Only)
18024 Ruger P-85 / P-89 COR-BON (Early Models w/ Protruding Rod Back Only)

Wolff Gunsprings https://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=1&mID=52

Wolff Recoil Spring Ruger P85, P89, P90 Series
P-85, P-89 and P-90, 9mm & .45ACP
Reduced Power...: 8, 9, & 10 Lb.
Factory Standard.: 11 Lb.
Extra Power........: 12, 13, 14, & 16 Lb.

Hammer Springs
P-85, P-89, P-90, P-91, P-93, P-94, P-944, P-95, P-97 and P-345
Reduced Power...: 19, 20, & 21 Lb.
Factory Standard.: 22 Lb.
Extra Power........: None Available

Magazine Springs
P-85, P-89, P-91, P93, P-94, P-944
11-15 round capacity magazines
Available in +5% and 10% extra power

Magazines:

U.S.A. Magazines - out of business, spotty quality. Nickel mags are thicker, work better.

Triple K Mags http://www.triplek.com/index.php - I think all the P85 mags are blued.
800M RUGER P85/89, 15 RD, Blue (?)
1024M RUGER P85/89, 20 RD, Blue (?)
801M RUGER P85/89, 30 RD, Blue (?)

ProMag https://promagindustries.com/search?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=p85
RUG 01N - Ruger P85 & P89 9MM (10) RD Nickel Plated
RUG-A35 - Ruger P85 9mm (32)Rd Blue Steel Magazine
NOTE: RUG-A10 - Ruger P-Series* 9mm (20)Rd is for P89, P93 & P95

Mec-Gar http://shop.mec-gar.com/Magazines/Ruger
RUGER P85/89/93/94/95/PC9
MGRP8510 Capacity 10 Limited (Blue)
MGRP8515 Capacity 15 Standard (Blue / Nickel)
MGRP8517 Capacity 17 High Cap Flush Fit (Blue / Nickel)
MGRP8520 Capacity 20 Extended (Blue)

Ruger http://shopruger.com/Magazines-Loaders/products/1401/
90052 Ruger P85, P89 (Serial No. 304-69999 & below) 10-Round Magazine Stainless
90234 Ruger P85, P85MKII, P89 (Serial No. 304-69999 & Below) 15-round Magazine Blue

Ruger Floor Plate http://shopruger.com/Magazine-Floor-Plate-P-Series-40-10-11-Round-9MM-15-Round/productinfo/62117/
62117 Magazine Floor Plate - P-Series .40 (10 & 11 Round) & 9MM (15 Round)

Magazine Speedloader
HKS Magazine Speedloader http://www.hksspeedloaders.com/MagloaderPage.html
Model 940 - Doublestack - P85, P89, P93, P95

Laser Sights

Crimson Trace http://www.crimsontrace.com/products/manufacturer/ruger/01-1190
LG-389 Laser Grips Fits Ruger P-85/89/90/91/93/94/944 P/N LG-389

Laser-Lyte Rear Sight for Laser Ruger P-Series Semi Autos RL-RP - DISCONTINUED
RL-RP FAQ http://www.laserlyte.com/pages/rl-rp

Tritium Night Sights

Meprolight Sights
Green/Grn Fixed Night Sight for Ruger P85, P89 ML10990 (http://www.meprolight.com/?catid={0B7B71C6-C5C1-4011-93AE-A79C7B82AF8B}&itemid={B9A2AC6E-4D13-4F5B-8D49-CD092493DE2E})

Trijicon https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/search/search_results.php All P85 sights seem to be currently available.
RA01: Ruger 3 Dot Green Front & Green Rear Night Sights P85, P85 Mark II and P89.
RA01O: Ruger 3 Dot Green Front & Orange Rear Night Sights
RA01Y: Ruger 3 Dot Green Front & Yellow Rear Night Sights

Front sights have “F” suffix – RA01F – Green dot front sight
Rear sights have “R” suffix – RA01R – Green dot rear sight

XS Sight Systems http://www.xssights.com/Products.aspx?CAT=8347
RP-0001S-5 Ruger P85 & P89 Auto Pistols - 24/7 Big Dot Tritium Express Set
RP-0001S-6 Ruger P85 & P89 Auto Pistols - 24/7 Standard Dot Tritium Express Set

Millett Bar-Dot-Bar (seen 'em in a 2004 Gun Digest)
RUGER P-85, P89, P-90, P-91, P-94 .360 .275 Pin-On RP85012

Numrich (Gun Parts Corp)

Probably not much difference between these two...
P85 Parts http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Ruger-33474/AutoPistols-40403/P85-35123.htm
P85 MkII Parts http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Ruger-33474/AutoPistols-40403/P85MKII-35122.htm

TO REASSEMBLE Guide Rod and Spring

The smaller diameter end of recoil spring fits against collar place guide rod. In short, put the small end of the spring on the rod FIRST

[FergusonTO35]

I'm sure the P-nuts out there will appreciate this!

[ohland]

http://www.grantcunningham.com/2014/05/ed-harris-loading-cast-bullets-in-the-9mm-lugerparabellum/

by Ed Harris, Gerrardstown, WV

" In the 1980s I loaded tens of thousands of cast bullet 9mm rounds for testing purposes. While it has always been Ruger policy to neither recommend nor condone ANY use of handloaded ammunition, it was necessary from a safety and engineering standpoint to know what the guns would or would not function safely with. In particular they wanted to know if firing jacketed +P+ law enforcement loads in a heavily leaded barrel would cause any safety problems. For testing purposes bullets were cast from salvaged backstop lead, alternating between two RCBS 20-lb. pots, and a pair of 4-cavity molds, casting bullets hot enough so they were uniformly frosted, and water-dropping them into a 5-gallon bucket of water to quench-harden them. X-ray diffraction analysis of backstop scrap used at that time averaged 3% antimony, 0.6 tin, <0.006 copper and < 0.01 arsenic, the rest lead. Hardness of bullets after quenching was 24+ BHN. Bullets were loaded as-cast, unsized, tumble lubricating to deposit a light film of 55% calcium soap solids in a mineral spirit carrier, which later became Lee Liquid Alox. The final step was profiling loaded rounds to ensure they did not exceed SAAMI max. cartridge dimensions, using what would be sold commercially as the Lee Factory Crimp Die.


Moulds were cooled periodically by resting them briefly on a large wet sponge, to regulate block temperature. The melt temperature was maintained at 700-730 degrees F as measured with a digital thermocouple thermometer. The routine is to fill one mold, then set it down, then pick up, open, dump and refill the other blocks, alternating continuously. You get good bullets, without having to wait for the sprue to harden, or worrying about semi-liquid lead smearing across the blocks when cutting the sprue off. A man working an 8 hour shift could cast 100+ pounds of bullets in an 8-hour day. A Dillon RL550B was set up to throw 3.6 grs. of Bullseye which we loaded with a 124-gr. truncated cone bevel-plainbased bullet of shape similar to the H&G #7. Bullets dropped from molds at .358 and were loaded as-cast and unsized. Once-fired commercial brass was reloaded using Federal 200 “small rifle and magnum pistol” primers because they were “hard” like military 9mm primers and we wanted to be sure the guns would set them off reliably.


A very important factor when loading cast bullets in small autopistol cases, especially 9mm, is to have a lube bleed hole in seater and crimp dies, so that bullet lubricant buildup cannot cause an increase in seating depth, which results in a dangerous increase in chamber pressure. www.hollowpointmold.com can drill a 1/16″ bleed hole in the Dillon or RCBS seater dies. If you are loading thousands of rounds. I recommend that you do so!


Paying strict attention to seating depth, proper crimp and testing for “bullet push,” no more than 0.005″ shortening of cartridge OAL after 5 secs. at 50 pounds compression pushing against your bathroom scale, is very important. This should be a routine test precaution when setting up the loading machine and is essential to be repeated whenever you change lots of brass or bullets!"


"Cast loads fired in the Ruger P85 pistol then in development would outshoot most ordinary factory FMJ ball ammo, about 2 inches at 25 yards with a velocity around 1050 +/- 30 fps. and run the guns like a pony trotting. I also fired thousands of them in the STEN, Walther MP1, Swedish K and Uzi we had in the engineering dept. at the time. When loading cast bullets in the 9mm you are best-off using the lightest powder charge which functions reliably. A 124-gr. flat-base or 130-gr. bevel-base which does not protrude into the powder space any deer than factory FMJs is the best choice to maintain adequate recoil impulse. Of current designs the Accurate 35-130B and LBT small auto pistol design flat-nosed bullets are most effective on game and feed reliably in most modern combat autopistols"

[MT Gianni]

2nd best day with that gun was the day I bought it, best was the day I sold it. I'm glad you like yours. DA trigger had to be over 15 lbs SA dropped to around 8 or 9. Weighed enough to use as an anchor for the Queen Mary at a running tide.

[ohland]

2nd best day with that gun was the day I bought it, best was the day I sold it. I'm glad you like yours. DA trigger had to be over 15 lbs SA dropped to around 8 or 9. Weighed enough to use as an anchor for the Queen Mary at a running tide.

Well, well, well. Please stop repressing your feelings...

First, the P85 is massively overbuilt for a 9mm. Not exactly a first choice for CCW, unless it is very cold (coats) or one uses a fanny pack. Trigger pull on a P85 MkII is not bad. Try a 657-3 and a P85 MkII, and see how much they seem to weigh against each other. The P85 trigger is a bit long, but when SA, it so far seems to be well behaved. Ruger built a tank on a 9mm frame... Trying to work the hammer with the right thumb (at least for me) requires that I rotate the P85 in my hand. Oddly, left hand thumbing of the hammer is pretty easy.

The Hogue Ruger P85 - P91 Rubber grip with Finger Grooves Black P/N 85000 is current production, @ $18 off of fleabay. The stock Xenoy grips are pretty flat and (to me) don't fill up my grip.

It was built for military and LEO. The trigger travel is unfortunately, a design feature.

This MkII feels to have a decent trigger. But long. Factory 3 dot sights are a wee bit small, I snagged a Millett Series 100 sight for it. It should have the one piece barrel on it.

What I also like is the breech, ample room to clear a jam, but the slide covers everything forward of the chamber. The Berretta 92F has that (relatively) long segment of the barrel exposed before it is covered by the slide.

Just tried a 92F magazine that came back with me, and oddly, it fits the mag well. But not suprisingly, the 92F mag does not latch...

[Bigslug]

All, these spare parts sources will probably be really handy in about a hundred years - when the first P-85's start to wear out.:mrgreen:

I forget his exact recipe, but I had a coworker who's P-85 load amounted to a .38 Super charge behind a 115 grain Nosler HP, lit off with a small rifle primer. I wouldn't dream of trying it in anything else, but that gun shot like that was the ammo it was supposed to shoot.

Having been a gun nut all my life, and graduating from HS in 1989, I grew up in the age of the Wondernine. My feelings for the P-85 are all over the place:

1. It should NOT have been chosen as the U.S. military sidearm for the simple reason that the 1911 should STILL BE the U.S. military sidearm. That said, it'd be a FAR better option than what we got from Club Med.

2. As I like to say, the Nazi's genocides and ambitions for world conquest were bad things, but the flawed concept of the DA/SA auto pistol is one of the longer-lasting atrocities that the Third Reich perpetrated on the world. Properly "thanking" them for that alone would have been worth AT LEAST a week of thousand-bomber raids. That said, Bill Ruger was an entrepreneur who attempted to give the customer what they wanted, while being a good American who tried to give the customer what he thought they NEEDED. Designing stuff that is going to FAR outlast its projected service life can be seen as a bad business move, but it is good for the customer - in this case, the country - that's buying it. The truth is that we really don't see that much anymore - everyone is too worried about the next sale to WANT to make something that won't need replacing in the visible future. Ruger, on the other hand, made that his business model and flourished because of it. I miss ya Bill.:cry:

[Motor]

I didn't know this thread was here but thanks to my nefu I do now.

Big thanks to ohland for this awesome information.

I just bought a Millet adjustable rear sight for my P series using the information here as a guide.

I hope it fits and works. :)

Motor