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ohland
08-18-2015, 05:40 PM
All distracted over the perfect bullet that would cover a 22 short low wall rechambered to 22K hornet, I totally forgot there is a 225415 sitting forlornly in a mould box in the basement...

Red Dot, here we come....

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richhodg66
08-18-2015, 06:03 PM
If you get the urge to try something else, the Lee Bator works well in mine and I especially like the NOE 45 grain WFN with plain base I got as a group buy, however, it doesn't want to feed in my bolt action.

GabbyM
08-18-2015, 06:59 PM
Lyman made that bullet in about three weights over the years. Older ones being lighter. If you have one of the 45 or 50 grain molds it should work great.

oldblinddog
08-18-2015, 09:39 PM
It does not work with the 55 (mine weighed 58 lubed and checked).

hc18flyer
08-18-2015, 09:51 PM
Man, I'd like to try that 45 grain pb in my 223 Handi! PERFECT with Green Dot or Trail Boss, no feeding problems in a Handi!

GooseGestapo
09-13-2015, 08:05 AM
I've got one. Mine casts to 49.5 gr. Perfection!
Much better than the Bator, IMO.
I size to .225" and it's been super in the .22Hornet.
Finally tried it in the 1/12" .223 and it's under 2moa over 7.5gr of Unique.
Perhaps the most useful mold I own.

gnoahhh
09-17-2015, 11:00 AM
The thing is, if it's a .22KHornet in a rechambered Winchester .22 short barrel (betting it was a low wall Winder musket originally), it will have a super-slow rate of twist. Like 1-20" or so. If that is the case then no available .22 cast bullet is gonna shoot worth a tinker's dam. Been there, done that, with one so altered, in .22 Hornet. Not even the stubby little 225107 37 grainer would shoot better than tin can accuracy. I would very surprised if any 45-50 grain cast bullet works with any degree of success.

Sedgley in Philadelphia got his hands on a pile of the government surplus low wall Winder Musket .22s, a lot of them were .22 shorts, and altered them to .22 Hornet and sold them to an unsuspecting public. (Actually, a lot of them were altered in the 20's before the Hornet debuted in 1930, and the barrels were marked ".22WCF". Hornets work fine in them, just not accurately. Later ones were marked ".22Hornet".) A shame really, as original ones in .22short were silly accurate as-is but who wants/wanted a full size rifle chambered for the lowly Short. (Back 100 years ago, the serious target shooters used rifles dedicated to shooting .22shorts as they were generally more accurate than the then current crop of LR ammo. That changed rapidly and by the 1920's LR ammo had gotten waaaay better, and the Short fell out of favor for serious match shooting)

.22-10-45
09-17-2015, 07:41 PM
Your spot on gnoahhh about the little ,22 short. I shot in a few indoor winter schuetzen matches and I and a few others used various single shots in .22 short. Indoors, a .22 long rifle is very noticibly louder than the short..and accuracy wise no better at these shorter ranges. At a quality antique arms show,I saw an original cased Pope Stevens 52 in .22 short with it were a Pope single cavity mould casting a 29gr. R.N. heeled bullet and several boxes of primed/empty .22 short cases. This outfit was circa 1903..those old timers felt better accuracy could be had by rolling their own. Maybe ohland could try a custom 29-30gr. mould.