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ohland
08-14-2015, 02:54 PM
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Winchester 351 Self Loading Rifle

Editorial and Publishing Offices: EFFINGHAM HOUSE ARUNDEL STREET, STRAND, LONDON, W.C.

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Arms & Explosives, vol 15, no. 181, Oct 1907 pages 130-131

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This is a weapon which has hardly received the attention that its technical importance seems to justify. The explanation for its apparent neglect may possibly rest in the circumstance that the public regard the production of well thought out rifle mechanism as a part of the ordinary routine business of the Winchester Arms Company. When they brought out their automatic .22 calibre rifle some years ago they received full credit for the interesting departure which had been registered, but the subsequent models firing more powerful cartridges on the same self-loading principle have been taken more for granted that the circumstances warrant. The recent Bisley Meeting afforded an excellent opportunity for demonstrating the extraordinary efficiency of the self-loading action.

Eleven out of 15 places in this competition were won with the Winchester Automatic Rifle, and no hitch occurred during any part of the shooting. Inconceivable as it may seem one of the competitors in the event which was open to all automatic rifles succeeded in the course of one minute in getting off 53 aimed shots, 47 of which hit the target. Some idea of the merit of this performance can be gained from our own humble attempt to apply a somewhat similar kind of test to the rifle as a self-loading arm, and the accompanying target shows the result.

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It should be explained that Mr. Nelson, the winner of the Bisley competition, used the -32 automatic, whereas our own test was conducted with the .351 high-power rifle firing the cartridge here illustrated. Our test consisted in charging the magazine with five cartridges, and operating the plunger so as to pass No. 1 round into the chamber. Careful aim was taken from a gunmaker's table rest at the bullseye here reproduced, the distance being 40 yards. The first shot was aimed with due deliberation, and then four others were rattled off as quickly as the aim could be recovered after each shot had been fired. The time elapsing between the firing of the first and the fifth rounds was carefully noted, and the period occupied was in every instance ten seconds. At the third attempt familiarity with the somewhat unusual conditions had been gained, and the accompanying remarkably fine target was produced.

The isolated shot was No. 1 round, and those making a single hole on the lower right-hand edge of the bull were fired during an average time interval of two-and-a-half seconds. So quickly was the rifle manipulated that it seemed inconceivable for any material gain in rapidity of aimed shooting to be registered, yet we are faced with the circumstance that Mr. Nelson fired ten times our number of shots in five times as long, with the added operation of substituting a full magazine for the exhausted one at the end of every five rounds. The aiming of the first shot from the full magazine, the time for which was excluded from our own record, must also be taken into account.

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Where long strings of shots have to be fired under competitive conditions the shooter soon learns to avoid the delay incidental to the preliminary working of the spring plunger for seating the first cartridge in the chamber. This delay is obviated by inserting a spare cartridge in the chamber, afterwards introducing the filled magazine. The shooter then fires five shots, the sixth being left in the chamber in readiness for the next series, the empty magazine being replaced by a full one. The Bisley competition is of course of chief interest as showing the reliability of the mechanism and its capacity under military conditions of test. The sportsman is, however, only interested to know that his five shots are safe to go off properly, for these give him the rapidity of manipulation of a double barrel gun, with the advantage of five rounds instead of two. The most enthusiastic advocates of ordinary magazine rifles for sporting use have always been forced to admit that the two discharges in quick succession of a double barrel gun are of greater sporting value than five rounds from a magazine, with a time interval and disturbance of aim between the shots.

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As regards ballistics the high-power Winchester- selfloading rifle may be regarded as a practical weapon for game of the kind which can be dealt with by a 180-grain nickel-covered bullet having a muzzle velocity of 1800 odd feet-per-second. Its comparatively large calibre in proportion to the weight of the bullet gives it considerable stopping power, whilst the exposed lead nose gives the necessary expansion. The weapon is made to take down, and an examination of the parts shows them to be thoroughly sound and efficient from a mechanical standpoint. The over-all length is 38 inches, and as it can be fitted with the Lyman rear sight this length is ample for achieving a high standard of shooting accuracy. Our own test certainly suggests that the self-loading functions are not detrimental to a high quality of shooting.

sthwestvictoria
08-16-2015, 05:21 AM
That is a terrific sounding Journal name. Are there more editions available?

ohland
08-16-2015, 09:11 AM
That is a terrific sounding Journal name. Are there more editions available?

Yes there are. Use your Google-fu, search in Books, set the date to 1/1/1880 to 12/31/1925 (more pre-1925 titles are public domain).

Since it was a UK publication, there is more British stuff (guns, sights, powder/reloading) on it. Some US stuff that has arrived in the UK.

Clay M
08-20-2015, 07:55 PM
I remember going into one of the local small gun shops when I was thirteen and seeing a few .351 self loaders on the rack. I was always fascinated by those guns. I wish I had the money back then to buy one.
At the time I was saving my money to buy a Krag. I fell in love with stories about the Krag and had to have one. We searched high and low for a good Krag.I had worked all summer and saved $60 .
My family went on vacation and our car broke down going over the continental divide in Colorado.
The wrecker towed us into Gunnison. We ate breakfast the next morning , and I noticed a Sporting Good store across the street. We walk over ,and went inside. Behind the counter was a nice .30/40 Krag carbine.The fellow working there said he just took it in on trade. We said how much. He said $60.
So I got my Krag, and had it shipped back home to the local hardware store.
I still have the old rifle,and it has a perfect bore.
I remember helping my dad roof a house to save up money to buy that old rifle.
But when I was thirteen, I had to have Krag.

I always wanted a .401 self load, as I love anything .40 caliber.
Now I am just an old guy, but the .405 win is one of my favorite rounds.
It is perfect for cast bullets.

We grew up in a great time on the one hand. I never worried about ammo. .If I needed ammo to hunt or practice I went to the Hardware store and bought it,
or loaded it with what I had available.

On the other hand we have so many choices of components nowadays.
In the old days ,a 180 gr .30/06 was all that was available in the local store.
That was it.We used old Herters dies and components to put together practice rounds.

I guess the .308 win is my favorite round.
It is very deadly.

Battis
08-25-2015, 05:51 PM
Great article. Thanks for posting it.
I have the Winchester Self Loader in .32, .35 and .351. I'm looking for a .401. They made a .22 but they're pricey.
I recently bought this box - too bad it's empty.
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