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AbitNutz
08-05-2015, 07:58 AM
There are a myriad of single shot actions...heck there are a sea of all kinds of actions.

I now seem to favor single shots with external hammers. I think that Ruger No.1's are probably the best there is from a sleek and practical view. However, I have come to like the looks of the Sharps and Winchester 1885. I don't think the Remington Rolling Block is quite as attractive.

The Martini-Henry is awesome. The Sharps Borchardt is neat but clunky in comparison.

What's your favorite?

MT Chambers
08-05-2015, 02:25 PM
1. Remington Hepburn
2. Stevens 44 1/2
3. W, Highwall
4. Ballard
5 Sharps '74

Bill Torzsok
08-05-2015, 04:15 PM
Martini Cadet!

Butler Ford
08-05-2015, 04:46 PM
H&R/NEF have let a lot of us play. Have a Sharps, want a High Wall but my Handi's keep me busy and entertained. Just today 10 rounds of ff goex and 520 gr of soft lead and 13 more of a mix of powders and 350's, 405's and 420's all for not much over two bills. Hard not to like'em!

BF

country gent
08-05-2015, 05:31 PM
I have several and like them all. I find the lines and balance of the single shots to be very appealing. C Sharps Hepburn in 45-90 CPA Stevens 44 1/2 in 40-65 Ruger number 1 B in 300 win mag Ruger 1 V 220 swift Martini Cadet in 218 bee he single shot rifle is one of those things that are either loved or hated. Seems to be little in between there.

AbitNutz
08-05-2015, 05:34 PM
I'm going to have to read up on the Remington Hepburn. It looks like a really wild single shot action. I do see that CSharps sells one for $4,200!

JeffinNZ
08-05-2015, 05:35 PM
Martini Cadet!

Absolutely.

bob208
08-05-2015, 05:55 PM
for .40 and larger rolling block. for .38-55 and smaller the high or low wall. I do have a few .310 cadets I would like to give them a try.

tdoyka
08-05-2015, 06:30 PM
1. ruger #1 in 270 win
2. tc encore in 444 marlin
3. tc encore in 20 vartarg
4. tc encore in 6.5 creedmoor
5. tc encore in 22-250 ai
6. h&r in 45-70
7. tc contender in 7x30 waters

pietro
08-05-2015, 07:02 PM
.

Over the past 40-odd years, I've owned/shot/hunted with many (but not all) different CF & RF single shot rifles.

They were:

* Trapdoor Springfield
* Browning M-78's & 1885's
* H&R/NEF
* Martini (BSA)
* Remington RB's, #4 & #1's
* Ruger #1's & #3's
* Savage 219's
* Stevens Favorite
* T/C Contender Carbine, Encore, TCR-83 Aristocrat's & TCR-87
* Winchester M-1885 Winder Musket

YMMV, but I prefer the break-open rifles (Savage 219, T/C TCR's) for hunting (I don't usually shoot at targets, unless zeroing a rifle) due to their relatively light weight & fast lock times.

For me, The Savage 219's issue chamberings don't offer a wide-enough choice, so my favorite single-shot is the T/C TCR-83 (like the one below).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/guywildstorm/tcr83rifle001_zps314b0c13.jpg

Reverend Recoil
08-05-2015, 07:39 PM
Ruger No.1

GOPHER SLAYER
08-05-2015, 07:48 PM
For trim good looks, the 44-1/2 is hard to beat. I only have one at present but have owned others. I have owned all the popular single shots except the Ballard and the Hepburn. I don't know why that is, I always liked the looks of them and in the in the early 1960s you could get a nice Hepburn for 100-200 bucks. I could have bought a Ballard with beautiful wood but I just never liked the looks of it, nor did I trust it with smokeless powder. I saw a factory engraved Ballard in 32-40 with a cracked receiver after firing a mild load of smokeless. I have a safe full beautiful single shots but very limited places to shoot them. If I could only keep one, it would be a tough choice to make.

TJF1
08-05-2015, 07:57 PM
high wall
44 1/2
h&r
martini
ruger #1 & #3
Terry

country gent
08-05-2015, 08:33 PM
The one plus to the Remington Rolling Blocks and Hepburn over the under lever style single shots is if you shoot a lower prone position since you dont have to break position to work the action and load. Its a little thing but its something to consider.

ndnchf
08-05-2015, 08:36 PM
This question is like asking which daughter is prettier... But that being said, I like the #2 Remington rolling blocks. Mid sized, sleek, simple, strong and classic. What else could one want in a single shot?

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y493/ndnchf/BPCR/Number%202%20RRB/RRB2-2_zpsc47572ee.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/ndnchf/media/BPCR/Number%202%20RRB/RRB2-2_zpsc47572ee.jpg.html)

JMtoolman
08-05-2015, 08:48 PM
I like the Farquhason, or the Westly Richards 1891 myself.

NF Hunter
08-05-2015, 10:01 PM
1. 1885 High wall
2. 1871 Rolling Block
3. H&R, NEF
4. Ruger No.1

Hiwall55
08-05-2015, 11:00 PM
1885 Hiwall,1874 Sharps, and CPA Stevens

VA Jim
08-05-2015, 11:27 PM
I like em all!
1 - 1885
2 - Stevens 44 1/2
3 - Trap door
4 - Rolling block
5 - Ruger #1
6 - H & R
7 - Martini
8 -T C Contender

Bad Ass Wallace
08-06-2015, 05:14 AM
I like the "Ēlassic " Alex-Henry falling block!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/BAWallace/AH_2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BAWallace/media/AH_2.jpg.html)

AbitNutz
08-06-2015, 07:18 AM
Wow...I saw that Gun Robber had an Alexander-Henry for 8 grand. They are a beautiful rifle. The Farquhason is classically beautiful. I hadn't thought of the advantage of the side lever or rolling block but it is definitely an. I can also see it as being more convenient even at the bench. You can sit the rifle down, work and load the action. My Ruger No.1, Winchester 1885 and my Sharps all require a few machinations to get it back in action.

Bad Ass Wallace
08-06-2015, 08:27 AM
The AH is a classic because at least for me the hammer is left handed. I've managed to add two to my collection

stubbicatt
08-06-2015, 09:00 AM
I've owned and shot the 1885 and the Pedersoli Sharps and a TC 83. Also had a Rolling Block pistol, on which the hammer was soft enough to take on the impression of the firing pin head. So far I prefer the High Wall. I would love to own one of each.

gnoahhh
08-06-2015, 12:46 PM
1. Dakota
2. Original HiWall
3. Martini Cadet
4. Ballard

oldred
08-06-2015, 03:07 PM
I wish this had been a poll! Actually I have been pleasantly surprised to see that my favorite SS action the 1885 HighWall seems to be near the top, both the original design and newer and quite different modern versions are very appealing. I was never much of a Rolling Block fan as the lines and action type just don't appeal to me but then that's just me and in no way is meant as a slap at those classic old beasts!

My second choice as most appealing in the looks dept has to be the Trapdoor but oddly it doesn't seem to get much mention here? Everyone has their own tastes for style and preferences for operation type so it would be impractical for any of us to definitively say which is "best" because they all have their strong and weak points, for instance the Trapdoor has classic lines that appeal to nostalgia and has developed a huge following but is nothing to brag about for strength of the action while the Ruger no.1/3 is on top of the list for strength but is sort of in a category of it's own for style. The bottom line is they all have their good points and some not so good points but it's no problem for me because I like'em ALL!!!!! :mrgreen:

M-Tecs
08-06-2015, 03:12 PM
1. Original HighWalls
2. Trapdoor Springfields
3. Ballards

Tatume
08-06-2015, 04:49 PM
.

Over the past 40-odd years, I've owned/shot/hunted with many (but not all) different CF & RF single shot rifles.

They were:

* Trapdoor Springfield
* Browning M-78's & 1885's
* H&R/NEF
* Martini (BSA)
* Remington RB's, #4 & #1's
* Ruger #1's & #3's
* Savage 219's
* Stevens Favorite
* T/C Contender Carbine, Encore, TCR-83 Aristocrat's & TCR-87
* Winchester M-1885 Winder Musket

YMMV, but I prefer the break-open rifles (Savage 219, T/C TCR's) for hunting (I don't usually shoot at targets, unless zeroing a rifle) due to their relatively light weight & fast lock times.

For me, The Savage 219's issue chamberings don't offer a wide-enough choice, so my favorite single-shot is the T/C TCR-83 (like the one below).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/guywildstorm/tcr83rifle001_zps314b0c13.jpg



I have one of those that looks just like yours. I bought it on Gunbroker after talking to you many months ago. Since then I've decided I can't afford to keep it. Since I haven't even had time to shoot it, I'm going to pay a gunsmith to check it out before I list it (with two barrels and two scopes in mounts). If you wish, I'll let you know when I put it on the block, probably here on S&S.

Take care, Tom

jazzman251
08-06-2015, 05:02 PM
1. Ruger #1 257 Roberts
2. Ruger #1 45-70
3. New Mfg Win 1885 32-40
4. Nwe Mfg Win 1885 .223

pertnear
08-06-2015, 05:35 PM
1) Ruger #1
2) Browning 78 (Win High-wall)
3) Dakota

I was surprised Dakota wasn't mentioned sooner than gnoahh's post#24. Would probably been at the top of my list but I've never been able to afford one!

scb
08-06-2015, 06:33 PM
Ruger #1
Original High Wall
Martini Cadet

Clay M
08-06-2015, 06:42 PM
1. Remington Hepburn
2. Stevens 44 1/2
3. W, Highwall
4. Ballard
5 Sharps '74

A good selection there.
I have always been partial to the original Winchester Highwall.
I had some very nice ones.
Now I have one built by the old Ballard Co in Cody Wy. It is a .38/55
I also have one designed by Ed Weber of Montana. It is .40/65

I enjoy shooting the 74 Sharps,especially in .50/90 I would say it is the most fun of all my single shots.

I would have to say my two favorites are my Shiloh Custom .50/90,and my Ruger #1 in .405 win. Both rifles are phenomenal.
For hunting I have the best of both worlds with black or smokeless..
Both rifles are in my top five all time favorites that I have owned.
If shooting the Big 50 doesn't put a smile on your face ,nothing will.
Like playing a great Les Paul through a Marshall amp. It is something you have to experience.

curator
08-06-2015, 06:49 PM
To quote W.C. Fields: " you can never have tii many martoonies." The Martini action is the quintessential single shot action if you don't want one of those distracting hammers flopping about when you pull the trigger. Personally, I am a big fan of single shot actions from the classic Martini, to the Ruger #1, Remington rollers, Sharps, Winchester/Browning Highwalls, Trapdoors, H&R/NEI break actions. Snider, T/C Encore, Stevens "tip-up," or even the Floberts all of which I occasionaly get to play with. If you need more than one shot, your marksmanship is suspect!

kywoodwrkr
08-06-2015, 07:00 PM
Martini Cadet!
Martini 22
Was my first single shot in 1950, but followed closely by pig tail Winchester 37 same year.
Loaned(stolen) later in life by ROTC cadet's father who 'borrowed' it for her to use with shooting team.
Have to hope it is still serving well somewhere.

hendere
08-06-2015, 09:12 PM
H&R then Martini Cadet, but only because those are the only ones I have. Someday.....

Frank46
08-06-2015, 11:53 PM
Ruger #1 45/40, BSA model 12 22rf, what I think is another model 12 with canadian markings arrow within a circle 22rf, and a peabody saddle ring carbine in 56-50. But have had high walls, low walls and trapdoor springfield. Frank

Bad Ass Wallace
08-07-2015, 12:17 AM
Do someone mention Martini's; I have a few of them also!:Fire:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/BAWallace/Martini_Lots_zps69a15cdd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BAWallace/media/Martini_Lots_zps69a15cdd.jpg.html)

dromia
08-07-2015, 12:52 AM
Deeley Edge falling block.

Martini, large and small frame.

Bigslug
08-07-2015, 01:06 AM
1885 & Martini top my list - they're bombproof and simple to operate: open, feed, close, shoot.

Sharps and Trapdoors are harder for me to warm up to. You have to get into a Zen Zone to smoothly get through all the steps needed to fire one.

Ballards and rolling blocks fall in the middle: not as simple as the one, not as complex as the other.

I don't think the Chassepot is going to make my list, but stay tuned. Shooting that one appears to be moderately complex - it's making the ammo that looks to be the mind-bender.:veryconfu

herbert buckland
08-07-2015, 01:37 AM
Side leaver Deeley & Edge,but if you must have a hammer the Soper or Fields side leavers would be my pick

rfd
08-07-2015, 05:46 AM
remington rolling block - original or replica. easy to take the action apart to clean and maintain and replace the firing pin, strong, reliable, ambidextrous, minimum movement to open & close the action. probably more rolling blocks were built than all other 19th century rifles/actions combined.

http://i.imgur.com/VJuVjc9.jpg

stubbicatt
08-07-2015, 07:58 AM
... Oh yeah. I forgot about that Martini Mk III in 22 long rifle. That was a nice rifle.

alg3205
08-07-2015, 08:10 AM
1. 1885 high wall
2 Martini Cadet

dtknowles
08-07-2015, 03:21 PM
The one plus to the Remington Rolling Blocks and Hepburn over the under lever style single shots is if you shoot a lower prone position since you dont have to break position to work the action and load. Its a little thing but its something to consider.


I have RB and Hepburn along with #3 and handirifles. Like the Hepburn the best. I guess single shot bolt action rifles don't count?

Tim

blindeye
08-07-2015, 04:53 PM
I don't know if a favorite would be what I Like the most or Shoot the most.
My CPA 44 1/2 has been shot the most, along with a BSA Int. MKIII.

Artful
08-07-2015, 05:43 PM
The single shot's I have hung onto are
Ruger #3's
Thompson/Center Contender

Double barrels
Citori 12 ga
Savage 24 20 ga frame

GhostHawk
08-07-2015, 09:20 PM
Currently have 4 Handi Rifles with a total of 6 barrels.

Rolling block if I could afford it and find one that I could shoot smokeless in.

I've had my fling with black powder and prefer to not go back there.

Sharps are tempting just for a wall hanger, except that is a lot of money to hang on a wall.

Still thinking hard about the Italian baby block in .357. I think that would just be a fun gun to sit at the range and shoot.

NF Hunter
08-07-2015, 10:26 PM
remington rolling block - original or replica. easy to take the action apart to clean and maintain and replace the firing pin, strong, reliable, ambidextrous, minimum movement to open & close the action. probably more rolling blocks were built than all other 19th century rifles/actions combined.
http://i.imgur.com/VJuVjc9.jpg

That is so true RFD, I have a Navy Arms Pedersoli replica rolling block and CSA high wall. The rolling block just seems more nostalgic "historic" than the high wall.

dromia
08-08-2015, 09:26 AM
I am a big fan of the rolling block action, the AK of the 19th century, as I find its design having a timeless elegance and simplicity.

However the drop on the butt due to its design means that getting a good cheek weld at anything more than a couple hundred yard distance is a struggle for me, so love the design but its practical limitations for shooting take it off my list even although I have a couple in my collection that I do shoot on occasion.

semtav
08-08-2015, 10:08 PM
1885
Wesson #1
Wickliffe 76

Ramjet-SS
08-08-2015, 10:19 PM
I love the Number 1 but my current favorite is my Encore 475 Linebaugh.

Hooker53
08-09-2015, 12:47 PM
MH Cadet
Rem #2 Roller.

I would love a Stevens 44 1/2 but at the present can't tell the Diff from 44 1/2 and a Regular Fav from a photo.

Roy
Hooker53

Bent Ramrod
08-09-2015, 03:25 PM
For pure looks, I like the Stevens 44 and the pistol-grip Ballard with the four finger loop lever. But for use, they all have their points.

DocSavage
08-10-2015, 10:40 AM
Shiloh Sharps
Browning Hi Wall
Ruger No.1

oldred
08-10-2015, 06:03 PM
A bit of trivia about the HighWall, while we all (me included) like to refer to "Browning's" HighWall action and most just assume that John Browning designed the 1885 it may come as a surprise to some that he did not, the 1885 HighWall and Low Wall actions are Winchester designs based on the floating hammer design that Browning invented. The original Browning falling block single shot design of 1878 that the Winchester 1885 is derived from was not a "HighWall or "lowWall" and in fact was very different indeed than the 1885 model that Winchester offered. Browning's design was even simpler, the story has it that it was too simple in fact and was not really very successful and the rifles that he and his brother built did not sell very well. However JB was a very young man just starting out and by the time Winchester expressed an interest in (and then in fact bought) the floating hammer design that Browning had patented he also had built the prototype that was to become the 1886 Winchester lever action so he was well on his way after that first effort. Still that original single shot falling block action had very few similarities internally to the re-engineered Winchester design that became the legendary 1885 and would barely be recognizable as an 1885, this action was quite different while the outside appearance was somewhat like the Highwall, basically what Winchester really was after was the patent for the ingenious floating hammer that reduced weight and complexity and increased strength plus it made for a much more streamlined design by allowing loading/extraction without a radical drop at the back of the action like other center hammer designs of the era.

M-Tecs
08-10-2015, 06:24 PM
One for sale here. Some nice pics of the 1878 http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1337-extremely-rare-browning-montana-model-1878-single-shot-rifle-46631/

oldred
08-10-2015, 06:27 PM
They are extremely rare as only a few were built, I would sure like to get my hands on one!

M-Tecs
08-10-2015, 06:42 PM
I for one am not going to ask what the price is but one sold on GB a while back for under 2K.

Some more pics http://www.nramuseum.org/the-museum/the-galleries/the-american-west/case-41-competing-for-the-market/browning-model-1878-standard-single-shot-rifle.aspx

oldred
08-10-2015, 07:09 PM
I for one am not going to ask what the price is but one sold on GB a while back for under 2K.

Some more pics http://www.nramuseum.org/the-museum/the-galleries/the-american-west/case-41-competing-for-the-market/browning-model-1878-standard-single-shot-rifle.aspx


That's quite surprising as I would have thought a halfway decent example would go for at least twice that.


I see a contradiction there at the NRA site to the literature I have about the Browning produced rifles, accounting for the low production numbers NRA says the production rate of three per day could not keep up with demand while my source says they simply did not sell very well, something I also have heard a couple of times. I seriously doubt that a production rate of more than three per day would have been practical given the time period, size of the shop and the local so the NRA explanation actually seems more plausible.


I have some pics of one of these rifles and even some of the internal action, I will try to get them posted.

M-Tecs
08-10-2015, 07:25 PM
I have some pics of one of these rifles and even some of the internal action, I will try to get them posted.

That would be greatly appreciated Thanks!!!!!!

Clay M
08-10-2015, 11:40 PM
If I were buying a new single shot black powder target rifle today it would no doubt be the Hepburn.
There are two manufactures here in the US.

I love the 74 Sharps and the Highwall, but I already have the guns that I want with those two actions.
If I wanted to shoot silhouette I would buy the .40/65
For the Midrange target I would probably get the .45/90

montana_charlie
08-11-2015, 02:15 PM
... falling block ...

dtknowles
08-11-2015, 05:27 PM
Nobody took the bait when I mentioned single shot bolt actions but I always wanted a Stolle Panda

"The Stolle Panda has won more Benchrest matches than any other action. It is aluminum with a steel 1.062" tenon, 18 tpi twist. The flat bottom provides a large, secure bedding surface. The integral rail on top adds stiffness, and provides a built-in high precision mount for scope rings"

It is probably cheaper than another Hepburn :bigsmyl2:


http://www.6mmbr.com/actions.html

The 'heart' of any custom rifle is the action. A good action is essential for competitive accuracy, and no component is more important in terms of rifle longevity and shooter safety. Custom actions start at around $750 and can cost three times that amount for the jumbo 50 BMG actions. Why is a custom action worth the extra cost? First, the action will be stiffer, straighter, and (usually) stronger. An action such as a Panda or Viper offers reduced weight plus enhanced bedding surface. $1000.00 invested in a Barnard 'P' buys a super-strong action AND a match-grade trigger. And, whether you spend $750 or double that sum, a quality custom action, when combined with a good barrel and stock, can deliver winning results at the range. The better custom actions also retain their value very well--something that can't be said for most factory actions.

M-Tecs
08-11-2015, 06:32 PM
For bolts that would be Barnards since I have two. I have barreled 9 to 10. I have never found a Barnard that require any truing. I can't say that for some of the other custom actions. Only barreled one Panda and nothing additional required.

oldred
08-11-2015, 06:32 PM
You're right that's one slick single shot!

Clay M
08-11-2015, 06:52 PM
This one. I have been to Kyle Millers shop in St Onge South Dakota.
I would like to have one in .32 Miller short.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=miller+single+shot+rifle&qpvt=Miller+Single+Shot+Rifle&qpvt=Miller+Single+Shot+Rifle&FORM=IGRE

Hickory
08-11-2015, 10:11 PM
I've been waiting for someone to mention it but no one has.
But, I like the XP100 action. You'll say it's just another bolt action, but it's still a single shot and mine shoots exceptionally well. As usual I may be the odd man out.

Uncle R.
08-11-2015, 10:28 PM
I've been waiting for someone to mention it but no one has.
But, I like the XP100 action. You'll say it's just another bolt action, but it's still a single shot and mine shoots exceptionally well. As usual I may be the odd man out.

I never owned an XP and I'm a little fuzzy on the details.
Isn't the XP100 the same action as a 600 / 660 but without the magazine cutout in the receiver floor?
Just curious...

I have no idea what's the best single shot...
Maybe a High Wall, maybe a Ruger #1.

My favorite single shot?
I guess that would be a '73 Trapdoor, just because it's such a Rube Goldberg design and yet it still worked pretty well.
Any of the nineteenth century single shots can peg my "wanting meter" especially if an individual specimen proves to be very accurate.

Uncle R.

LtFrankDrebbin
08-12-2015, 06:17 AM
I have a big attraction to the Martini action.
But hey, all single shots have an attractive prestige about them. They just seem classy yet simple even if some are made quite complex.

rbertalotto
08-12-2015, 09:26 AM
Easy question...My 1892 Ballard!

http://images108.fotki.com/v1629/photos/2/36012/12796603/DSC_6315-vi.jpg

And a story to go along with it:

http://rvbprecision.com/shooting/a-ballad-about-a-ballard.html

more here:
www.rvbprecision.com

M-Tecs
08-12-2015, 10:05 AM
I guess that would be a '73 Trapdoor, just because it's such a Rube Goldberg design and yet it still worked pretty well.
Uncle R.

I love TP's. Of the Rube Goldberg designs for muzzleloader conversions they were the best. Compare them to the British Snyder in design and machining. The Snyder's look like a drunken anger beaver made them compared to the TD's.

For military use the Martini's were the best. I really want one but finding one that is not a Khyber Pass copy is a problem. I have a line on a Cadet that I know is real.

oldred
08-12-2015, 12:00 PM
The Trapdoor doesn't even look like a conversion and belies it's heritage, it's lines are truly timeless and appealing and that's why it has been so popular in the past and is even more so today! The action may not be the strongest but it's not nearly as weak as some think and is more than strong enough to handle sensible 45/70 rounds which even at BP pressures are quite impressive. The Trapdoor is and will remain a timeless classic!

gunauthor
08-12-2015, 12:32 PM
I really enjoy a couple of relatively inexpensive guns, New England Handi-Rifles and a Rossi 12 gauge with a rifled bore.

Clay M
08-12-2015, 08:42 PM
I am going to see if I can track down Kyle Miller tomorrow. His actions are truly amazing.
If he is still around I believe I will order one.

Jedman
08-12-2015, 10:35 PM
I really like them all but to pick just one for all of its qualities would be the Martini Cadet.

Jedman

gnoahhh
08-13-2015, 10:04 AM
The no-name German break-open single shot stalking rifles are pretty nifty too. (Typically actions mass produced by concerns such as Suhl and finished out by guild craftsmen.) Not what one would call benchrest guns, but delightful in their intended role- hunting/informal targets/plinking. The two I have, a 5.6x35R (.22 Hornet) and 8.15x46R are crazy accurate for what they are, and make for wonderful carrying in the woods.

bbailey7821
08-13-2015, 10:29 AM
Barrett 99
TC Encore

stubbicatt
08-13-2015, 12:02 PM
Dag nabbit! I just remembered my 3 lug BAT actioned rifle. Also a single shot, and a really nice bit of workmanship.

Ithaca Gunner
08-13-2015, 12:25 PM
Trapdoor Springfield. The National Armory always put out a fine product.

Rick Hodges
08-13-2015, 12:42 PM
My favorite is a Ruger #3, followed by an 1885 Winchester, then the Ruger #1. Just my tastes. I prefer the combination trigger guard/action lever.

flint45
08-13-2015, 01:32 PM
My favorite that Ihave is my 75 C.Sharps .40-65 next are my rolling blocks.

Jedman
08-13-2015, 07:24 PM
I haven't heard it been mentioned but the single shot Comblain rifle is really a good action for big bore cartridges. Twice I have been within a hair of buying nice Comblain rifles ,but it hasn't happened yet. Strong, unique , and very simple. I have one on my bucket list.

Jedman

Texantothecore
08-13-2015, 07:51 PM
Break open actions like H&R.

M-Tecs
08-13-2015, 07:54 PM
I haven't heard it been mentioned but the single shot Comblain rifle is really a good action for big bore cartridges. Twice I have been within a hair of buying nice Comblain rifles ,but it hasn't happened yet. Strong, unique , and very simple. I have one on my bucket list.

Jedman

Never heard of it. Looks cool http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?230091-Comblain-rifle

wch
08-13-2015, 09:36 PM
My favorite is the model 1885 Winchester action.

earshot
09-18-2015, 04:02 PM
I like the 1885 falling block for its strength, the rolling block for its simplicity.

BigEyeBob
09-19-2015, 08:18 AM
Martini cadet ,Just love them .
But the best single shot I ever owned for strength and good looks was a Jeffery Farquarson big game rifle in 400x 3" NE.
The Ruger No 1 is a copy of the Farquarson and is by far the strongest single shot action .
If I were building a single shot BG rifle I would use a Ruger action if I couldn't get my hands on a genuine Farquarson.

22cf45
09-19-2015, 01:28 PM
My favorite without question is Ballard. Particularly the engraved pistol grip models like the 4 1/2 midrange, the No. 6, the No. 6 1/2 Rigby, and the No. 7 Long Range.

Shooter6br
09-19-2015, 03:48 PM
Ruger No 1 stainless with laminated stock 45-70

Nueces
09-19-2015, 04:20 PM
For carrying, and in both small and large bore, I like:

Stevens Favorite
Purdeys or Hollands style Rook Rifle
1885 Low Wall
#1 or #1 1/2 Rolling Block
Trapdoor
Peabody
Sharps 1874

Walking with one of these is like going back in time.

murf6656
09-21-2015, 01:05 PM
I guess out of the ones I own, I would have to pick my 30-30 contender carbine just because its killed more deer than any other rifle I have. But there sure are a lot prettier ones to look at. I've always wanted a Dakota 10 in 6.5x55, and a 1885 winchester in 30-40.

Ballistics in Scotland
09-21-2015, 03:29 PM
One for sale here. Some nice pics of the 1878 http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1337-extremely-rare-browning-montana-model-1878-single-shot-rifle-46631/

It is described as an 1878 rifle with an 1879 patent date on the barrel. So it may have been rebarrelled. The close-coupled double set trigger might be an addition from the Winchester era too.

I have a great admiration for the Westley Richards "Improved Martini", although in fact Westley Richards' and Martini's patents leapfrogged one another. The lever supports the block right at the front, which strikes me as the mechanically sound place to do it, and it gives superior extractive effort.

149455

It comes from an age when people felt unsafe without a visible hammer. So you can actually lift the lever slightly and see or feel the toe of the hammer protruding from the trigger guard. You can also see the engagement of sear and hammer through a notch. Mine probably came from India as a badly rusted relic, and it was a doleful decision to sleeve the gain twist barrel, with Mr. Metford's number for record keeping on his contract with George Gibbs, which was mirror-bright except for a century-long condensation trickle gouged deeply into bore and chamber.

The Nepalese Gahendra, with an uncertain amount of Westley Richards input in its design, could be as good if it was of good quality. I have heard no confirmed cases of Gahendra breech failures, but the barrels are locally made of spiral welded iron, and besides the abominable condition of most that have come from Nepal locally, sometimes failed even when British .577/.450 black powder ammunition became available, with bullets of about .461in. when most Gahendras had smaller (but inconsistent) bore diameters. Somebody is bound to rebarrel one someday, but it had better be for little more than black powder pressures.

Four Fingers of Death
09-26-2015, 10:55 AM
I have a half dozen Ruger No1s and I suppose they are my favs. I also like my Trapdoor which only shoots BP (it is a H&R Little Big Horn replica to which I have fitted Pedersoli open sights for Pat Garrett SASS matches). I like the Browning BPCR, but have never shot mine much. My Shakari 44Mag is a nice rifle as well. One single shot rifle that I have that really punches above it's weight is my CBC 32/20! It has won every pistol calibre single shot match at the nearby cowboy range! Looks like sin, but shoots like a dream. It is a shame the sights are so ordinary.

ascast
09-28-2015, 07:11 AM
Werndl
'71 mauser
Guedes
Gras
C.G.Bonehill
Beumont
Hepburn is 2nd fav

I need a Ruger

McFred
09-29-2015, 08:05 AM
I've got around 7,000 rounds through a Contender carbine. It is relatively inexpensive, compact, lightweight, accurate, multi-caliber, has a nice crisp trigger and capable of taking anything in the western hemisphere. In general the only fault has been that the hammer spring went soft and now takes a couple whacks to get a rifle primer to go off. I've been waiting for Smith & Wesson to send me a new spring... Still works on pistol primers though.

And I also have a newer No. 1 that I'd like to rework or sell. I don't really like the accuracy, the trigger, the lock time, or the wood, safety and cast trigger guard fitment or the scope mount. I still have it though, so I must not dislike it too much.

Four Fingers of Death
09-29-2015, 08:26 AM
the hammer spring went soft and now takes a couple whacks to get a rifle primer to go off. I've been waiting for Smith & Wesson to send me a new spring... Still works on pistol primers though.

Google Mike Bellm I think it is, he specialises in Thompson Centre stuff and sels all sorts of tools, spares and barrels. Great info on his site as well.

longranger
09-30-2015, 10:48 AM
Here's some love for the 1877 Sharps back action falling block.

Gunlaker
09-30-2015, 11:15 AM
I have a number of different ones. My favorites are probably Winchester 1885's, and Sharps 1874's. The Borchardt is an excellent rifle. If I were to pick an action for a new midrange or long range rifle I might go that way. I have one rebuilt as a long range rifle by Curt Hardcastle and it's a real pleasure to shoot.

Chris.

Jedman
08-03-2016, 11:04 PM
What happened to this thread ? There's has to be some more favorites out there.
Even though I have been trying to reduce my " guns" I still am always in the market for a unique single shot and will always enjoy them.

Jedman

singleshot
08-03-2016, 11:29 PM
Rolling block is my favorite for the simplicity of design and accommodation of prone shooting.

quail4jake
08-04-2016, 02:06 AM
The single shot experience seems to transcend ballistics and takes us to another time - another world. One in which the trivia of our lives doesn't seem to matter.
The Burnside carbine when we're feeling fiery and impulsive - but have no i phone
A target on the horizon and all afternoon to hit it with the Sharps - without the sound of traffic
That anxious moment as a buck emerges from the thicket, gripping the smoothly worn wrist of a Winchester 1885
The smell of a wool coat and sense that our ancestors walk among us as we load and fire a trapdoor musket repeatedly
That burning pain in the back as we hoist a Stevens Walnut Hill to the offhand position at the end of a long scheutzen match
My favorite single shot? The one I'm holding in that world - maybe it's our reward.

marshall623
08-04-2016, 06:14 AM
The T/C Contender , personally it's the pistols

Kevin Rohrer
08-04-2016, 06:44 AM
What's my favorite? The one I happen to the holding at the time.

rfd
08-04-2016, 07:28 AM
Rollers Still Rule ... for me!

http://i.imgur.com/SfBs7Pt.jpg

waksupi
08-04-2016, 10:27 AM
Farquarson.

marlinman93
08-04-2016, 10:52 AM
My favorite is the Marlin Ballard action. Charles Ballard didn't design the strongest single shot action, but it certainly is more than strong enough for the calibers it was offered in. But the design is pure genius! The way he designed the breech block to pivot back as it dropped, and cam a cartridge into the chamber as it locks up, plus the way it headspaces into the frame! John Dutcher once mentioned he thought Charles Ballard was either a real genius, or got lucky and accidentally came up with the design, as he couldn't see how anyone could envision it before building it!
Add to the function, the fact the whole trigger, hammer, etc. is all housed within the breech block to protect it from dirt; and it's just a fantastic design. I love my Rolling Blocks, and especially my Hepburns. But they just are a tad lower on my most loved list, below the Ballard!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy/DSCF4505_1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/marlinguy/media/DSCF4505_1.jpg.html)

quail4jake
08-04-2016, 11:38 PM
Incredible Ballards! a favorite of mine too

sharps4590
08-05-2016, 06:49 AM
I guess I'm too fickle to pick a favorite. Of the several I have I can't see me parting with any of them anytime soon. I've had several #1's and like the one I have left in 450/400 but that's more about the cartridge than the rifle. If the right double came up in that cartridge or the 9.3 X 74R the Ruger would go down the road. The two Shiloh Sharps in the toy box are permanent party as is the one Ballard. There's a Bartles on an Ideal action in 8.15 X 46R that is a delight as is the Jones underlever stalking rifle by Johan Outschar in 9.3 X 57R...or is it 51 mm...I forget. It's based off the hoary 9.3 X 72R. An "Original Haenel-Aydt" Schuetzen rifle scores high marks as a keeper. It's chambered in some .345 wildcat from long ago, thank God brass was easy to form. Then there is my delightful little Jeffery Rook rifle that was originally in 255 Jeffery but was long ago re-chambered to 25-20 WCF. It was recently relined to the same cartridge and has been a great deal of fun to work with....less than 5 lbs.

Original Haenel-Aydt

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/sharps4070/P1010005%209_zpsxx88q9vt.jpg (http://s432.photobucket.com/user/sharps4070/media/P1010005%209_zpsxx88q9vt.jpg.html)

Outschar stalking rifle on top


http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/sharps4070/P1010002%207_zps1hphwhy4.jpg (http://s432.photobucket.com/user/sharps4070/media/P1010002%207_zps1hphwhy4.jpg.html)

I like the Farq. ok and a Henry would be a very nice addition as would a Stevens 44 1/2. Rollers just never caught my fancy but recently I've been looking at.....and probably for....a Husqvarna sporter with a good bore in 12.7 X 44R. Seems to me that would be a fun cartridge to work with. I recently learned the original type hammer Peabody has become available and it's an interesting action. Martini's, as with the Roller's, never piqued my interest but I definitely give them high marks as a single shot action.

.452dia
08-05-2016, 03:38 PM
Browning 1885 Hi Wall in 45 70 (Sporting Model)

Huvius
08-05-2016, 06:41 PM
British/Irish/Scottish single shot rifles have always been my soft spot and I have owned or do own quite a few of them.
I have also owned Winchester 1885s, Remington rolling blocks, new Sharps and even an original Sharps but IMO, they just don't come close to the British falling blocks.
Here are some of MY favorites:

Westley Richards 1881

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/0C79AAEF-3857-46DC-87DD-D7C520399E6C-2098-0000021FC8F6FFD8.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/0C79AAEF-3857-46DC-87DD-D7C520399E6C-2098-0000021FC8F6FFD8.jpg.html)

Daniel Fraser falling blocks

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/Fraser%20303%20001.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/Fraser%20303%20001.jpg.html)


Alexander Henry hammer falling block rifles

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN7984.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN7984.jpg.html)

But my favorite are George Gibbs Farquharsons. I could be a happy man collecting and hunting with only Gibbs Farqs!

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/461and303GibbsFarquharsons003jpg-1.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/461and303GibbsFarquharsons003jpg-1.jpg.html)

Texas by God
08-05-2016, 07:55 PM
Remington Rolling Block. And Remington 510 .22 lol.

alg3205
08-05-2016, 08:22 PM
Winchester 1885 in 45-70
Martini Cadet in 218 Bee

Traffer
08-05-2016, 08:34 PM
My favorite single shot action is the falling block.
My second favorite single shot action is break open.
My all time favorite gun is John Browning's High wall.
To me the simplicity of engineering overarching all the styling characteristics is the mark of a true master piece.
I will get mine in heaven and shoot it at a thousand yards while I have conversation with Mr John M. Browning.

sharps4590
08-06-2016, 07:25 AM
Exquisite, Huvius.

sharpsguy
08-06-2016, 08:30 AM
1874 Sharps, hands down.

Jedman
08-06-2016, 08:55 AM
Exquisite, Huvius.Absolutly +++++ !
Jedman

iomskp
08-06-2016, 08:58 AM
I have 3 Greener 12 bore rifles
2 Rolling blocks
1 Stevens
1 Borchardt
I had a 74 Sharps also a No1 and all in all I like all of them.

olafhardt
08-12-2016, 07:04 PM
I really like break action hammer guns. My favorite is a Savage 22/20 ga older model 24 with joined barrels which might not be a single shot or maybe it is.

Texas by God
08-13-2016, 07:14 PM
But my favorite single shot action is the H&R Topper. For real. Best, Thomas.

Drm50
08-14-2016, 01:44 PM
I tend to like the Falling Block actions, hammer or hammer less and Rolling Blocks are OK. The only ones I don't like are the break downs. Unless high quality European purpose built rifle. In
USA brands, I've had them all, T/C-H&R- NEF and don't like any of them. Ruger #1 is hard to
beat if buying new, at a practical price.

Blackwater
08-14-2016, 03:27 PM
Wow! What a tough question! For me, the super lines and form of the Win. Low Wall is just awesome, but then, those old Schuetzens, many of them Ballards, are to me the most wondrous rifles ever conceived and assembled by the hands of mortal man, along with some of those old PA and KY's. Then I think of the Ruger #1 and 3's, the rollers, and so many others! My head's starting to hurt! I gotta' go take an aspirin!

jimb16
08-14-2016, 08:47 PM
Savage 220 with both the .30-30 barrel and the 20 ga.
followed by the Thompson Contender.

Idaho Sharpshooter
08-15-2016, 12:09 AM
My 450-400-3 1/4 Nitro Express built on one of Steve Earle's Model of 1871 Wesson Number One Long Range actions. As an exposed hammer action, it is legal for everything from Quigley, to NRA Sihouette, to the 1000 yard matches.

Close second, a Shiloh or Original Model of 1878, the "Overbaugh" action.
Third, a Shiloh or original Sidehammer Model of 1874.

Rich

flint45
08-16-2016, 02:22 PM
My favoriye single shot action is a C.Sharps 1875.

historicfirearms
08-16-2016, 05:39 PM
If I had to pick one it would be the Ruger #3. I love the simplicity and strength.

Huvius
08-16-2016, 08:00 PM
Here are a couple other uber rare rifles.
I often hear Winchester folks talking about the "One of One Thousand" 1873s and their rarity but how about an original George Gibbs Farquharson (one of 974 total) in sporting configuration (one of maybe 350) with a top tang safety (est. 30-40 made) and you really get to talking rarity.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/256%20gibbs%20Farq%207.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/256%20gibbs%20Farq%207.jpg.html)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/256%20Gibbs%20Farq%201.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/256%20Gibbs%20Farq%201.jpg.html)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/256%20Gibbs%20Farq%206.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/256%20Gibbs%20Farq%206.jpg.html)


Then there is this rifle.
I had seen pictures or an ancient advertisement of this action as a kid and it just struck me as what a falling block sporter should look like.
Never did I imagine when I started collecting single shots that one would be mine!
Retailed by Joseph Lang on a Webley 1897 patent action (surely all Webley made with Lang's address on the barrel).
One of perhaps six known examples and then one of two or three still in it's original configuration.
Just think, if some Winchester rifle were this rare, it would be worth a fortune!

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8368.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8368.jpg.html)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8370.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8370.jpg.html)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8371.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8371.jpg.html)

Four Fingers of Death
08-16-2016, 08:20 PM
Looks like that might have influenced Bill Ruger's design.

AZ Pete
08-16-2016, 10:52 PM
That I own, a 1885 High Wall in 45-70. That I would like to,own, Sharps Borchart.

old turtle
08-17-2016, 09:59 AM
Just about any one I can get my hands on. I have the following1
1 Savage Stevens (got for daughter to teach to shoot. Surprisingly accurate)
1 Winchester High Wall 32-40
1 Remington Hepburn 32-40
1 Martini Cadet Orignal but 32-20
1 Martini Cadet target stock 30-20tc
1 Trapdoor Springfield
1 Remington Rolling Block#2 in .22
1 Savage Anschutz 64 (maybe doesn't count as bolt action)

oldred
08-17-2016, 12:14 PM
Here are a couple other uber rare rifles.
I often hear Winchester folks talking about the "One of One Thousand" 1873s and their rarity but how about an original George Gibbs Farquharson (one of 974 total) in sporting configuration (one of maybe 350) with a top tang safety (est. 30-40 made) and you really get to talking rarity.

I had seen pictures or an ancient advertisement of this action as a kid and it just struck me as what a falling block sporter should look like.
Never did I imagine when I started collecting single shots that one would be mine!
Retailed by Joseph Lang on a Webley 1897 patent action (surely all Webley made with Lang's address on the barrel).
One of perhaps six known examples and then one of two or three still in it's original configuration.
Just think, if some Winchester rifle were this rare, it would be worth a fortune!


Wow, now there is something to drool over! Thanks for taking the time to post those pics, definitely different and a joy to see.

dtknowles
08-17-2016, 12:33 PM
Looks like that might have influenced Bill Ruger's design.

I think it is common knowledge that Bill Ruger's #1 was highly influenced by the Farquharson design.

Tim

Huvius
08-17-2016, 12:45 PM
Let's see some of these Cadets!
I will post mine too. They are sweet little rifles.

As as for the Ruger #1, I suppose visually the Farquharson influenced Bill Ruger but in design it is its own. I don't know if he ever really claimed to hold the Farq as his influence but he did own quite a collection of British single shots.
I always thought the Holland Woodward 1895 action could have really been his inspiration.

BAGTIC
08-17-2016, 01:46 PM
I like hinged action guns. I know they are not the best for many purposes but they are good enough. They are simple, easy to use, safe and very versatile. I have or have had falling blocks, martinis, s/s bolt actions and they were all good guns but I LIKE the hinged guns.

marlinman93
08-17-2016, 05:15 PM
Let's see some of these Cadets!
I will post mine too. They are sweet little rifles.

As as for the Ruger #1, I suppose visually the Farquharson influenced Bill Ruger but in design it is its own. I don't know if he ever really claimed to hold the Farq as his influence but he did own quite a collection of British single shots.
I always thought the Holland Woodward 1895 action could have really been his inspiration.

I've seen several interviews with Bill Ruger where he claimed the #1 was indeed cloned after the Farquharson he had seen as a youth. He later owned one, and built the Ruger #1 to aesthetically copy it externally.

dtknowles
08-18-2016, 01:57 PM
I like hinged action guns. I know they are not the best for many purposes but they are good enough. They are simple, easy to use, safe and very versatile. I have or have had falling blocks, martinis, s/s bolt actions and they were all good guns but I LIKE the hinged guns.

I like break action guns when shooting standing, they are easier to reload but shooting prone or from a bench they are handicapped.

Tim

marlinman93
08-18-2016, 07:59 PM
I like break action guns when shooting standing, they are easier to reload but shooting prone or from a bench they are handicapped.

Tim

For bench shooting, it's hard to beat a Remington Hepburn action, or a Remington Rolling Block. The Hepburn has an edge in strength over the Rolling Block, and most other single shot actions.

dtknowles
08-19-2016, 11:00 AM
For bench shooting, it's hard to beat a Remington Hepburn action, or a Remington Rolling Block. The Hepburn has an edge in strength over the Rolling Block, and most other single shot actions.

Yep, I have one of each Hepburn and RB but I have break actions and a falling block as well as a couple single shot bolt actions BR rifles. I like the Hepburn the best.

Tim

Rockzilla
08-19-2016, 01:19 PM
Nothing fancy, just a Ruger #1 in 458 Win. Mag has some beautiful wood and never fired it.
also got a few boxes of WW ammo for it. friend of mine owned a gun shop told him I wanted
a magnum not a 300, not a 338, or a 375 H&H..so he ordered this one for me

-Rock

marlinman93
08-19-2016, 04:34 PM
Yep, I have one of each Hepburn and RB but I have break actions and a falling block as well as a couple single shot bolt actions BR rifles. I like the Hepburn the best.

Tim

The advantage of the Hepburn side lever, or the Rolling Block for bench shooting, is not having to roll it to it's side to chamber or extract a cartridge. Keeping both rifle and shooter in position during repeated shots is a big plus over under levers, or break open actions.

dtknowles
08-19-2016, 05:15 PM
The advantage of the Hepburn side lever, or the Rolling Block for bench shooting, is not having to roll it to it's side to chamber or extract a cartridge. Keeping both rifle and shooter in position during repeated shots is a big plus over under levers, or break open actions.

Yep, if I stack the rear bag high enough I can cycle my Ruger #3 without rolling it on its side. I don't have to roll the break actions but you have to fuss with getting it back on the bags right each shot.

Tim

rfd
08-19-2016, 05:26 PM
the rolling block is one tough and reliable bugger. more rb's were built and in use around the world (well over a million) than the sharps and many other rifles combined. it's a super simple and reliable action that's easy to take down without any special tools, is ambidextrous, has a top functioning action (no under lever to get in the way while shooting prone) and the breech block can help seat an engraving cartridge (no separate cartridge seater required).

marlinman93
08-20-2016, 11:10 PM
the rolling block is one tough and reliable bugger. more rb's were built and in use around the world (well over a million) than the sharps and many other rifles combined. it's a super simple and reliable action that's easy to take down without any special tools, is ambidextrous, has a top functioning action (no under lever to get in the way while shooting prone) and the breech block can help seat an engraving cartridge (no separate cartridge seater required).

Couldn't agree more with all that, except the last part about the breechblock helping seat an engraving bullet! There's virtually no seating assistance in the Rolling Block design, and trying to leverage in a long bullet by pushing the tab on the block is tough going! But I do love Rollers!

modified5
08-21-2016, 12:54 AM
Favorite single action? Right now it's my TC Contender hand gun, especially my 45-70 barrel. I lime the fact that I can change between 6 calibers ranging from .22 mag to 45-70 in about a minute.
This winter I plan on machining myself a Darcy's falling block in 30-30.
If it shoots well it might become my new favorite.

rfd
08-21-2016, 05:23 AM
Couldn't agree more with all that, except the last part about the breechblock helping seat an engraving bullet! There's virtually no seating assistance in the Rolling Block design, and trying to leverage in a long bullet by pushing the tab on the block is tough going! But I do love Rollers!

i have a goodly amount of experience loading and shooting after spending many years owning and shooting 5 rolling block rifles. IF the cartridge OAL is *SLIGHTLY* longer than the chamber's max OAL, a roller's breech block WILL aid in seating the cartridge so its head is flush with the chamber. i've done that many times out of necessity and not by design. you can not typically do that easily, or at all, with a falling block action unless a cartridge seater is employed as that fractional added OAL won't allow the block to rise up (save at least for a CPA stevens 44-1/2 that uses a cam action falling block) . the key word is *SLIGHTLY*, and that maximum dimension (cartridge OAL) will vary for each rolling block action. i build my rb cartridges slightly under its chamber's max OAL, using fire formed brass and no press required for other than powder column compression. however, no cartridge build is an exacting science as there are so many variables. if a built cartridge length is SLIGHTLY too long, the rollers breech will typically seat the cartridge with no problem, and the trigger will work and the hammer will fall.

marlinman93
08-21-2016, 11:19 AM
i have a goodly amount of experience loading and shooting after spending many years owning and shooting 5 rolling block rifles. IF the cartridge OAL is *SLIGHTLY* longer than the chamber's max OAL, a roller's breech block WILL aid in seating the cartridge so its head is flush with the chamber. i've done that many times out of necessity and not by design. you can not typically do that easily, or at all, with a falling block action unless a cartridge seater is employed as that fractional added OAL won't allow the block to rise up (save at least for a CPA stevens 44-1/2 that uses a cam action falling block) . the key word is *SLIGHTLY*, and that maximum dimension (cartridge OAL) will vary for each rolling block action. i build my rb cartridges slightly under its chamber's max OAL, using fire formed brass and no press required for other than powder column compression. however, no cartridge build is an exacting science as there are so many variables. if a built cartridge length is SLIGHTLY too long, the rollers breech will typically seat the cartridge with no problem, and the trigger will work and the hammer will fall.

Well I also have a fair amount of experience with Rolling Block rifles, and presently own and shoot 7-8 of them. I can tell you that the OAL better be extremely slight, and the crimp on the bullet better also be very light! If the length is too long, or the crimp on the bullet very heavy, the block wont assist seating the cartridge well at all. Due to the block/hammer interface, even a slightly unseated case will not allow the hammer to fall. And your thumb will quickly get sore trying to push that cartridge deeper into the chamber so the hammer can drop.
Of course you're correct on most falling block actions not assisting at all. They mostly just wont allow the block to rise if there's even slightly too long an OAL. The exception is the Ballard, which pivots down and back as it drops. So when rising up and forward it will finish chambering a slightly long OAL.

rfd
08-21-2016, 11:44 AM
Well I also have a fair amount of experience with Rolling Block rifles, and presently own and shoot 7-8 of them. I can tell you that the OAL better be extremely slight, and the crimp on the bullet better also be very light! If the length is too long, or the crimp on the bullet very heavy, the block wont assist seating the cartridge well at all. Due to the block/hammer interface, even a slightly unseated case will not allow the hammer to fall. And your thumb will quickly get sore trying to push that cartridge deeper into the chamber so the hammer can drop.
Of course you're correct on most falling block actions not assisting at all. They mostly just wont allow the block to rise if there's even slightly too long an OAL. The exception is the Ballard, which pivots down and back as it drops. So when rising up and forward it will finish chambering a slightly long OAL.

i hear ya sir. i did use that SLIGHT word a bunch. :)

i use no crimp, they're all either previously fire formed cases with their necks blown wide out, or .461" straight plug expanded, with easy inserting drop-in bullets. using light compression swiss 1-1/2f also aids to allowing those few cartridges that might be off by a tad to be pushed in with a roller's breech block. it doesn't happen all that often with the cartridges i build, but it's something that can be done with a roller ... or cva or ballard's cam action falling block, but not with a straight up falling block like a sharps.

Hooker53
08-21-2016, 11:49 AM
Absolutely.

Cadet.

Right on with this one. This is also a trick question to me as I like them all. It always boils down to the one I'm holding or to one that I have plans for. Working up an accurite load for or relining barrel to and on and on and on. Ha. I like the Cadet because it is a rifle that puts me in the bullseye more then the rest of them. Is that because IV gave it more time with working up loads or Ha. It's just a great rifle. Secondly, I like the Stevens singles. Starting with the 44. I'm not lucky enough to own a 44 1/2 yet. Yet!!! Ha. I must confess I do t have a 44 hanging on the wall. I have bought some parts to one to customize and chamber to my liking. After that, the Rem rollers. I have five of them from the little model 4 in .22 up to the big block #5 in 44-40. I have a #2 in 38 RF that I have customized into a .38 CF and have bought custom molds for the .38 heeled Boolits. Keep on shooting folks.

Roy
Hooker53

oldred
08-21-2016, 12:33 PM
The 1885 HighWall will, due to the wedging effect from the block angle and face, exert quite a bit of pressure on the cartridge head to help seating BUT I would not recommend doing so or at least not often. The reason is that although it will indeed force that cartridge into the chamber doing that places undue strain on the link pin, while that particular point in the positioning of the breach block linkage is at it's strongest and will apply the most force the load will lead to slop in the pins and pin holes. It doesn't take much wear in these parts to cause a really sloppy action so while the design may be capable of forcing the cartridge into the chamber it's not a good idea to do so.


This applies to the original design and I'm not sure how well it would work with the newer Winchester/Brownings or if it would cause any harm to them.

Walter Laich
08-21-2016, 03:08 PM
I have been in love with rolling blocks since I was a kid. My Remmie is my favorite

marlinman93
08-21-2016, 07:00 PM
i hear ya sir. i did use that SLIGHT word a bunch. :)

i use no crimp, they're all either previously fire formed cases with their necks blown wide out, or .461" straight plug expanded, with easy inserting drop-in bullets. using light compression swiss 1-1/2f also aids to allowing those few cartridges that might be off by a tad to be pushed in with a roller's breech block. it doesn't happen all that often with the cartridges i build, but it's something that can be done with a roller ... or cva or ballard's cam action falling block, but not with a straight up falling block like a sharps.

Done in that manner, one should be able to finish seating a cartridge in any single shot with thumb pressure on the base.

old turtle
08-22-2016, 01:53 PM
dk I think the Remington Heburn is one of the most underrated actions. It is great for offhand shooting. There were not many made unfortunately.

Huvius
08-22-2016, 07:42 PM
Here is one of my Cadets.
Built by W.W. Greener in the 310 Cadet chambering.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8434.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8434.jpg.html)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8433.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8433.jpg.html)


And here is a Webley 1902 patent small frame rifle.
I had John Todd engrave this rifle and Mike Tulowitski colored it. Both did an excellent job I think.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8430.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8430.jpg.html)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8429.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8429.jpg.html)

M-Tecs
08-23-2016, 03:40 AM
Wow those are some nice rifles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hooker53
08-28-2016, 10:05 PM
Great photos on this riles. Huvius. What cal. Is that Webley? That is one more good looking rifle. Keep shooting folks.

Roy
Hooker53

Huvius
08-29-2016, 04:38 PM
The Webley was originally a 300 Rook but is now a 357 Magnum.

Hooker53
08-29-2016, 05:23 PM
Great caliper in a great looking gun. Thanks for sharing it.

Roy
Hooker53

smkummer
09-06-2016, 05:50 PM
I am so friggen lucky to have 3 Colt/Sharps (30-06, 22-250 and 243). Sweet, accurate and all with a Canjar set trigger. Of course those rifles are scope only. Like both my modern Remington RB in 45 govt. and my original in 43 Egyptian. I shoot my H&R replica Officers model 45-70 very well but I don't like trying to catch the brass. In 45-70, I am shooting a 350 grain bullet at 1300 FPS for shoulder comfort and its dead on at 200 yards. If I were to go with one caliber it would be either 32-40 or 38-55, so a stevens 44 would suffice in that case.

762sultan
09-06-2016, 05:55 PM
I don't have a fancy old one like most of you fellows, only thing I have is a Ruger #1 in 300 WBY. So I guess that is my favorite one.

Four Fingers of Death
09-06-2016, 06:50 PM
That's pretty fancy 762!

woodbutcher
09-07-2016, 12:32 AM
:D The first classic single shot that I fired was a Martini Henry converted to 45-70.Loved them and wanted one ever since.For a modern SS would have to say a Ruger #1 in 30-06 or 45-70.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

Lead pot
09-07-2016, 07:24 PM
I see a lot of fine looking rifles on here. But I don't see to many 74 Sharps mentioned so I will mention my Shiloh. I favor the good looking simplicity of the Sharps action and it's accuracy.
I have Trapdoors High and Low walls and CPA Stevens and I like them all, but there is just something about a 74 Sharps that feels right.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_0287-1.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG_0287-1.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_0291-1.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG_0291-1.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_0289.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG_0289.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_0296.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG_0296.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_0102_1_1_1-2.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG_0102_1_1_1-2.jpg.html)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG1.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG1.jpg.html)

And here is my other favorite hunting rifle a Shiloh 74 Sharps Hartford in the .44-77 caliber

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_2500_zpse2nqb6wk.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG_2500_zpse2nqb6wk.jpg.html)

TCLouis
09-08-2016, 12:17 AM
Though I have neither, high wall and low wall,
With Rolling block in the mix.
I would like a scaled down Sharps too if I could find one.

Single shot rifles and shotguns have hammers.

dtknowles
09-08-2016, 01:29 PM
Though I have neither, high wall and low wall,
With Rolling block in the mix.
I would like a scaled down Sharps too if I could find one.

Single shot rifles and shotguns have hammers.

Isn't it a matter of just sending someone the money and waiting a few years????? :-)

dtknowles
09-08-2016, 01:38 PM
I will look for a better picture or take one but here is my favorite.

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blackbahart
09-11-2016, 10:55 AM
I will go with MARTINI
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/blackbahart/IMG_2627_zps0ek76vzz.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/blackbahart/media/IMG_2627_zps0ek76vzz.jpg.html)
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/blackbahart/IMG_2598_zpsebgguvlj.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/blackbahart/media/IMG_2598_zpsebgguvlj.jpg.html)

dtknowles
09-11-2016, 01:22 PM
I will go with MARTINI
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/blackbahart/IMG_2627_zps0ek76vzz.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/blackbahart/media/IMG_2627_zps0ek76vzz.jpg.html)
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/blackbahart/IMG_2598_zpsebgguvlj.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/blackbahart/media/IMG_2598_zpsebgguvlj.jpg.html)

Can you explain why you like Martini's. I have never owned one, I think they have many drawbacks but maybe they have some benefits I am not aware of. First they seem bigger and heavier than other actions. They are weaker than falling blocks and they have that big under lever that make them difficult to load when shooting off a bench or prone. When scoped it seems it would be harder to get a round into the chamber. The only thing I can think of they have going for them is that they have those big flat sides to put engraving if you care for such embellishments.

Tim

blackbahart
09-11-2016, 09:55 PM
just a personal preference .They are affordable ,easy to work with and customize.As for strength they are more than ample for what I have them ,the largest bore is 30 carbine rimmed and the hottest is 5.6x50R and all the rest pictured are 22and 17 cal .As for bench shooting I tilt the rifle to the side to load and unload so the lever is a non issue and loading .
Also did I mention that I prefer them

dtknowles
09-11-2016, 10:02 PM
just a personal preference .They are affordable ,easy to work with and customize.As for strength they are more than ample for what I have them ,the largest bore is 30 carbine rimmed and the hottest is 5.6x50R and all the rest pictured are 22and 17 cal .As for bench shooting I tilt the rifle to the side to load and unload so the lever is a non issue and loading .
Also did I mention that I prefer them

Yep, it is just fine to like something just because it strikes your fancy.

Tim

quail4jake
09-12-2016, 08:58 AM
Beautiful rifles and downright Canadian, if I may be so bold! Thanks so much for sharing.

just a personal preference .They are affordable ,easy to work with and customize.As for strength they are more than ample for what I have them ,the largest bore is 30 carbine rimmed and the hottest is 5.6x50R and all the rest pictured are 22and 17 cal .As for bench shooting I tilt the rifle to the side to load and unload so the lever is a non issue and loading .
Also did I mention that I prefer them

Bent Ramrod
09-12-2016, 12:43 PM
The levers on Martinis are nowhere near as disruptive to position as those on Ballard or Winchester single shots. I don't see them as seriously "weaker," either, given identical metallurgy, than the falling blocks of the period. A very few High Walls were chambered in .30-06, but .30-40 (and its necked up congeners) was the normal high pressure smokeless loading, even as the .303 British (and wildcats based on it) was for the Martini.

It's mainly a question of aesthetics. I like the Francotte type Martinis with the roll in the back, but I like the Peabodys with the side hammer better. The Zulu Wars versions just don't do it for me.

olafhardt
09-12-2016, 08:46 PM
This is a beauty of single shots. Most of us that have them just have them because we like them. I like break actions with hammers; however I am confused. Does my beloved Savage 24 22 over 20 ga count as a single shot rifle and ss shot gun, an over under or a what?

dtknowles
09-12-2016, 10:58 PM
This is a beauty of single shots. Most of us that have them just have them because we like them. I like break actions with hammers; however I am confused. Does my beloved Savage 24 22 over 20 ga count as a single shot rifle and ss shot gun, an over under or a what?

Over under like yours are simply call combination guns, if it was a side by side it is called a Cape Gun. Three barrels, it is a Drilling and four barrels it is a Vierling.

Tim

olafhardt
09-13-2016, 11:55 PM
Does that make a five barrel a phumphling?

Eamonn
09-14-2016, 03:09 AM
Does that make a five barrel a phumphling?
That's a volley gun. :-)

Bad Ass Wallace
09-14-2016, 04:09 PM
+1 for the Martinis, I have 44 of them!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/BAWallace/MartiniAll_A_zpsa40c2b1c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BAWallace/media/MartiniAll_A_zpsa40c2b1c.jpg.html)

marlinman93
09-15-2016, 10:48 AM
+1 for the Martinis, I have 44 of them!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/BAWallace/MartiniAll_A_zpsa40c2b1c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BAWallace/media/MartiniAll_A_zpsa40c2b1c.jpg.html)


Hey, that only looks like about 25 Martinis! ;)

blackbahart
09-16-2016, 02:00 AM
Verry nice hoard of martini's B.A.Wallace.Shows many various types:)

Bad Ass Wallace
09-16-2016, 05:22 PM
Hey, that only looks like about 25 Martinis! ;)
I took a photo of them ALL once. the negative weighed 3/4 of lb! :kidding:

marlinman93
09-16-2016, 05:42 PM
I took a photo of them ALL once. the negative weighed 3/4 of lb! :kidding:

I bet it did! Nice family picture!

Huvius
10-18-2016, 10:01 PM
Here is the big brother, well, maybe BIG BIG brother to the little 1902 Webley Rook rifle I posted earlier.
It is also a 1902 Webley but on a much larger frame in 500NE. Steve Bertram did the works on this rifle for me and although it took a while, I am very pleased with the results.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8507.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8507.jpg.html)


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8495.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8495.jpg.html)


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8494.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8494.jpg.html)


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8501.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8501.jpg.html)


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/DSCN8502.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/DSCN8502.jpg.html)

M-Tecs
10-19-2016, 01:35 AM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice.

Steve does nice work http://www.bertramandco.com/

AbitNutz
10-22-2016, 03:22 PM
Wow...doesn't do it justice. As single shots have such large uncluttered sides they really shine when they're case hardened. They're an excellent canvas for the gunmakers art.