new ruger in the works

[odis]

Lipseys facebook page has a couple of teaser pics posted. They will be announcing at the end of next week, a new Bisley they are being kind of coy about it. Who makes the best dies for the 480 Ruger?

[dubber123]

If they are going to make a Bisley 480 on the regular BH/SBH size frame, they are going to sell a ton of them.

[Darkh2odiver]

If they make this revolver I will buy one!!!

[jaydub in wi]

Me too. maybe 2 of them

[historicfirearms]

Will it maybe be a five shot? That would be a cool revolver.

[bosterr]

I would stay away from Lee dies. The carbide size ring broke on 2 dies I had. Brass then gets severely scored. Andy Lee says the ring is pretty thin on 475/480 and 500 Mag and breaks easily. I ended up with an RCBS set that works great.

[Thor's Daddy]

I have two sets of the Hornady dies for my 475L and 475Max. They are superb. They're a bit more spendy than the RCBS dies, but do include a separate crimp die, which the RCBS set does not. Personally, I prefer to crimp separately. YMMV.

[odis]

I'm kind of surprised that there is so little interest in a 5 shot Bisley. I always figured it was what the 480 needed to be successful.

[Rick B]

We can only hope when Jason at Lipseys makes the announcement tomorrow that the new single action from Ruger will be a five shot .480 Ruger. As far as dies go I use RCBS full length set to load .475 Linebaugh. Tom at Accurate Molds designed a 420 gr. flat base bullet that shoots amazingly well from my BFR.

[Cornbread]

If it is a 454 Casull in a Blackhawk, I'll buy one. If it is a 480 Ruger I'll pass.

[Piedmont]

I have no idea what it will be but think a .357 on the new longer cylinder Single Six (that they built the .327 on) would sell better than a .480 on the large frame single action.

[Tom W.]

I still regret trading my SRH .480. I used the 4 die set from Hornady and a 400 gr. cast boolit from a single cavity RCBS mold. Drained the lead pot pretty quickly, but offhand shooting with a 2X Leupold would hit a clay pigeon @ 100 yards with boring regularity.

[Rick B]

The two new Lipseys exclusives have been released and are on Ruger's website. They are a 454C and a 480 Ruger. 6,5", 5 shot SS Bisleys
Rick

[dubber123]

The two new Lipseys exclusives have been released and are on Ruger's website. They are a 454C and a 480 Ruger. 6,5", 5 shot SS Bisleys
Rick

Excellent news!

[jaydub in wi]

Me too. maybe 2 of them
I guess I will eventually buy 2 of them. One of each:veryconfu

[odis]

Very impressive, I hope they sell so well that they become a regular catalog item like the 44 flat top did. I am most interested in the 480 since I already own a 5 shot 45 Colt.

[historicfirearms]

Here is a link to the Gunblast review.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-LipseysBisleys.htm

[JWNathan]

Just watched Jeff's review, all I can say is that a 454 is gonna be a must have for me. Was gonna do a BFR but just don't care for the grip frame. Shoot I'm really excited about this, wallet isn't so much.

Ruger should've brought out a stout 5 shooter Blackhawk when they released the 480. Oh well maybe this will be my excuse to get into a truly big bore single action. Only bummer is Lipseys dealers, ones that actually will order items, are thin on the ground around me, will have to start making calls tomorrow!
-Jesse

[DougGuy]

Yep, a 5-shot Bisley chambered in .454 Casull and .480 Ruger. 6.5" barrel, rebated cylinder, Jeff looked like he was having a handful with the .480!

He tells me that a .475" boolit slides right into the cylinder throats on the .480, and a .452" is a bit snug on the .454 cylinder but it will go into the throats with a little effort. A .451" slides right through.

This being a Lipsey's exclusive, it might be a while before these two 5 shooters enter the Ruger catalog, and if they do, it won't be the same gun as they never issue a copy of an exclusive run. I figure Ruger will eventually release these models for sale but with a different barrel length.

I wonder who's going to get the Hunter editions? Ruger saving this one for themselves or maybe Talo or Davidson's will get it?

[Hickory]

Is there a SRP, suggested retail price?

[Deep Six]

He tells me that a .475" boolit slides right into the cylinder throats on the .480, and a .452" is a bit snug on the .454 cylinder but it will go into the throats with a little effort. A .451" slides right through.


I was wondering how well the throats match the barrel - especially given Ruger's affinity for .450 throats on the regular 45s. The only issue with the 465 carpenter cylinders is that it probably takes a carbide reamer to open them up. Forget about the HSS stuff!

That said, I want one of each! Heck, I'll run jacketed in the 454 if the throats are small!

[Beagle333]

I simply must have the .480 now. Yes.... I need one. :D

[John Allen]

I am waiting to see myself.

[Sax.45]

I'm liking the .480, been waiting a long time like many of you for Ruger to make a 5 shot SA Big Bore..

[Cleveland48]

If I wasn't saving money for my kid that's on the way I would own one of these. I'm sure they will all be gone by the time I rebuild some funds.

[flint45]

I am gitten the .480 they look great, love bisleys.

[Cornbread]

$969 seriously!?! I paid less than that for my BFR. I'll wait until it is a regular catalog item and then pick up one in 454.

[Moonie]

$969 seriously!?! I paid less than that for my BFR. I'll wait until it is a regular catalog item and then pick up one in 454.

The MSRP is always higher than street price.

[MATT HELM]

If it is a 454 Casull in a Blackhawk, I'll buy one. If it is a 480 Ruger I'll pass.

The .480 revolver Is so limited ; when compared with the versatile .454 casull (.45 colt compatibility)

☆.480 Brass availability would be a vast shortcoming.☆

[Cornbread]

The MSRP is always higher than street price.

What is the usual street price mark down? I'd probably go into the low sevens for one but not higher than that.

[odis]

$969 seriously!?! I paid less than that for my BFR. I'll wait until it is a regular catalog item and then pick up one in 454.So what is the factory suggested retail price for the BFR? What this is is a 5 shot Bisley in either 454 or 480, the only other alternatives for a 5 shot BISLEY are just a bit pricier.

[376Steyr]

"This being a Lipsey's exclusive, it might be a while before these two 5 shooters enter the Ruger catalog, and if they do, it won't be the same gun as they never issue a copy of an exclusive run. I figure Ruger will eventually release these models for sale but with a different barrel length."

I beg to differ about the "never" part. The Lipsey .44 Special Flattops went on to be regular catalog items with the same barrel lengths.

[Ickisrulz]

The 454s are showing up on Gunbroker for $799 "Buy It Now." I think they are cool and would like one. But I have no real need and typically load my 44 mag down to moderate loads as it is. I do like the unfluted Bisley SS look though.

[Gibbs44]

I simply must have the .480 now. Yes.... I need one. :D

My thoughts exactly. I'm trying to come up with ways to do this without selling the extra kidney.

[JWNathan]

Had a local dealer preorder me up one today, 8 bills out the door is what he quoted me after talking to a rep at Lipseys. She did tell him they won't get the shipment in for a week or two. Time to start sourcing some brass!
-Jesse

[Powersgt]

$969 seriously!?! I paid less than that for my BFR. I'll wait until it is a regular catalog item and then pick up one in 454.

I got on the list yesterday, my local gun shop told me $725 +tax. Now the wait begins......:groner:

[Djones]

I paid $790 yesterday for the .454. I should pick it up tomorrow or Thursday. I am very excited to check it out.

[Cleveland48]

Can't wait too see some pics when one of you guys get them in.

[snowwolfe]

Seen some sell on Gunbrokers for $729 with a $20 shipping charge and no upcharge for credit cards. Be patient and next month you will be able to buy one for under $700

[Djones]

I picked up my new hand cannon!

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/duckwhackercmon/787AB61E-0BB2-4B7A-83C2-13EF5499A600.jpg (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/duckwhackercmon/media/787AB61E-0BB2-4B7A-83C2-13EF5499A600.jpg.html)

I paid in all cash so my local gun guy knocked of $40. I may have paid a little more than the Internet auction house cost but I'm glad I went local. He even tossed in some 454 casull ammo. 1900 fps 240 grain Hornady stuff. Sounds scary to me!

My cast 45 colt Mihec Ruger only slugs sized to .454" chambered so I am tickled pink! There is almost zero cylinder gap. I will take the cylinder to work with me next week and use some pin gauges to measure the throats. The grip panels will need a little fitting but other than that I am very happy. I plan to hunt deer with my 45 colt loads.

[Powersgt]

"I will take the cylinder to work with me next week and use some pin gauges to measure the throats."

It will be interesting to see, my Bisley 45 Colt has tight throats; my heavy Ruger only NOE 454 285gr SWC are not as accurate as I hopped out of it. I have to make a trip over to my gunsmith friend and have them opened up a bit.

[Markbo]

The .480 revolver Is so limited ; when compared with the versatile .454 casull (.45 colt compatibility)

☆.480 Brass availability would be a vast shortcoming.☆

Definitely not correct. I ordered my .480 from local dealer and got brass that evening from Starline. As far as versatility you might as well start with a .460 S&W then you can shoot all 3. Besides the .454 has way snappy recoil in this gun and I can download the .480 or push WAY heavier bullets to velocity enough to shoot throigh elk or bison lengthwise. Who needs a .454. [smilie=w:. Besides shooting .45 Colt is a lot more enjoyable in an SAA sized sixgun.

[High Desert Hunter]

As I have a FA 454, I will be grabbing the 480 version. I do love the 454, but I have always wanted a single action 475 Linebaugh, as the 480 does 95% of what the Linebaugh does, it will more than suffice. The cylinders on these is made of the same steel as the Super Redhawk versions, so if the throats have to be opened, it will not be as easy as a standard cylinder.

[Markbo]

Here's crossing our fingers on that. :D

[Potsy]

15 years ago I'd have been all over the .480.
As it is, I'll prolly sit it out. I've come to a conclusion that anything past 1200fps with a 270SAA is less than fun for me (I've taken them to 1350, it shot great, but became a lot less fun) so I'm probably not going to be enamored with either of the new offerings.
Though the chamber dimensions on the .454 are probably a lot better (tighter) than my .45 Colt (cases rattle around in the chambers like church bells), coupled with .452 throats I could feel love for it with reduced (15k-32kpsi) loads.

[Markbo]

Potsy there is lots of data on reduced .480 loads. I have a .475 BFR that I dont shoot a lot only because it shoots best when pushed hard. 50 rounds at a sitting is out of the question. I am hoping I can develope some loads on the .480 that will make for fun practice. Hunting loads only have to be shot enough to be on sight. But I hear you. I much prefer 250-270gr around 750-850fps for lots of shooting. Kick those upto 1000fps and it noticeable. Pass 1200fps and it gets your attention. Get to .454 max loads and I dont enjoy them at all.

In all honesty there is nothing I will ever hunt that a .45 Colt Ruger only loads wont kill. But.... I still enjoy them. .460 & .500 S&Ws dont get shot much either but they are sure fun when I do! Its just not a lot of rounds at one sitting. :)

[JWNathan]

Picked mine up on Saturday. Overall I'm really happy with it, I've got the same complaints as most; grips fit horribly, action is rough, that sorta thing. Had to run a tap through the base pin lock screw hole, didn't want to tighten so when I removed the screw there was a couple small chips in there hanging it up.

Hopefully get some loads finished up for it tonight for tomorrow's range trip. Now the biggest decision, buying leather for it!
-Jesse

[chuckbuster]

.480 on order here, Should fit nicely in the safe between the Alaskan, 7.5" and 9.5" SRH. Not sure whether to keep the .475L BFR or not...

[Lloyd Smale]

now if theyd make a 480 with a 4 5/8s barrel

[AnthonyB]

Picked up the 454 on Tuesday, and will likely shoot only 45 Colt level loads. $799 from Virginia Arms. Also have the 480 on order. I have no use for either but can't wait for the 480 to get here.
Tony

[Markbo]

now if theyd make a 480 with a 4 5/8s barrel

You only have to take a little off the 6 1/2 Lloyd. ;)

[Lloyd Smale]

I know but theres nobody local to do it and your going to pay 200 bucks with shipping to get it done. I could have lived with a 5.5 inch gun and that's the way they should have been. 6.5 are awkward enough that a guy might as well carry a 7.5. not a problem if your going to make a scoped hunting rig out of it but to me this guns real purpose to me anyway would be as a close up big game hunting and defense rig. If im shooting animals out past 50 yards a 45 colt or 44 mag will get it done. Id want this rig handy enough that a guy could stick it in a hip holster and forget its there. Kind of like my 4 inch 500 linebaugh bisley. I guess its just a matter of taste. I have no use for ANY handgun with a barrel longer then 5.5 inch. Im sure not everyone agrees with me
You only have to take a little off the 6 1/2 Lloyd. ;)

[chsparkman]

Picked up the 454 on Tuesday, and will likely shoot only 45 Colt level loads. $799 from Virginia Arms. Also have the 480 on order. I have no use for either but can't wait for the 480 to get here.
Tony

In Manassas? I put my order in for a 480 at All Shooters Tactical in Woodbridge. I know what you mean. I can't wait for mine either.

[AnthonyB]

Yep, Virginia Arms in Manassas. Bernie is the guy to talk with about ordering.

[Charlie U.]

I can't wait to see it in a Hunter model. That will be a MUST HAVE for me.




☆.480 Brass availability would be a vast shortcoming.☆

Not at all, Matt. Both Hornady and Starline makes it. Pick up a 500 pack of virgin brass from Starline and treat it right.....should last you a good while.

[Djones]

Took my 454 bisley out today. Started out with some 45 colt +P 325 grain ruger only over 19 & 22 grains of IMR4227. Shot about 25 of those cast loads. It shot as good as I could hold at 40 yards. Most shots on the paper plate. I need to do some load development.

I had never shot a 454 casull round until today. I picked up some Hornady 240 grain 1900 fps loads. Wow talk about some POWER! I was amazed at how well they shot. I hated hot 44mag loads and was scared to death to shoot the Casull but it was the best.

[Markbo]

I can't wait to see it in a Hunter model. That will be a MUST HAVE for me.
.

Easy. Get a .45 or .44 hunter barrel & have Harton, Huntington, etc rebore to .475. Done.

[Lloyd Smale]

you need to have a 5 shot cylinder done too. I doubt your going to talk him into doing a 6 shot. Price of this ruger would probably be less then the cylinder and rebore on the hunter.
Easy. Get a .45 or .44 hunter barrel & have Harton, Huntington, etc rebore to .475. Done.

[odis]

I'm curious if anybody here thinks these will sell well enough to become a regular offering from Ruger?

[Ickisrulz]

I'm curious if anybody here thinks these will sell well enough to become a regular offering from Ruger?

Lots of people are thinking that.

[Beagle333]

I'm scrounging around under the car seats and couch cushions to roll enough coin to maybe get one of these just in case it doesn't!

[Love Life]

I can see the 454 sticking around (bout time on that one).