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ohland
07-23-2015, 03:06 PM
Popular Mechanics, May, 1914, page 618

https://books.google.com/books?id=kd8DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA618&dq=rifle+telescope&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBzgeahUKEwit-9OP8vHGAhWEOogKHYGCBo0#v=onepage&q=rifle%20telescope&f=false

Rifle with Binocular Telescopic Sights (I kid you not!)

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[ed. Look at the zoom, it reminds me of an artillery Luger.]


A new rifle has been invented which the sportsman rests against his forehead instead of against his shoulder. Two telescopes form the sighting device, by means of which accurate shooting is possible at distances impossible with the usual type of gun.

The inventor, an Ohio sportsman, in experimenting, used a gun having a range of about 1,500 yd. and a penetration of 3/8 in. of boiler steel. A binocular telescope of peculiar design is combined with the gun and makes it unnecessary to squint the eye in sighting.

A padded plate shaped to the forehead is so arranged that the recoil of the shot is entirely taken up by flat springs. Rifle and telescope may be taken apart in a few minutes. The eyepieces of the binocular are easily adjusted to different widths between the eyes of individual users.

The focusing of the telescope actuates the mechanism for raising or lowering the gun for different ranges in accordance with the focus.

M-Tecs
07-23-2015, 08:45 PM
It has had 101 years to take off. Not sure it's going anywhere.

runfiverun
07-23-2015, 09:24 PM
I wonder if this I the missing link the asperly aimless has been waiting for...:lol:

ohland
07-23-2015, 10:09 PM
It has had 101 years to take off. Not sure it's going anywhere.

Au contraire, mon frere.... step back and view this through the technology of the time. The telescopes were used as an analog ranging device. The head rest actually makes it possible, because the distance to the back lenses is now reasonably fixed. We do this now with electronics... He did it with MATH and lenses....

Southern Son
07-24-2015, 07:27 AM
I would be interested in seeing one made with more modern materials, you know, titanium, carbon fibre, etc. And then fit it to a modern handgun, an X frame Smith and Wesson, perhaps.

2ndAmendmentNut
07-24-2015, 11:37 AM
How would one avoid two black eyes and a bloody nose?

white eagle
07-24-2015, 11:55 AM
I wonder if this I the missing link the asperly aimless has been waiting for...:lol:


That there is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuunny

Hardcast416taylor
07-24-2015, 12:00 PM
Wonder if that Luger pistol in an unkown cartridge had an 1,500 yard range and then still penetrate boiler plate that far? Also, I wonder how many headaches and cut foreheads he suffered each range session?Robert

ohland
07-24-2015, 12:52 PM
Wonder if that Luger pistol in an unkown cartridge had an 1,500 yard range and then still penetrate boiler plate that far? Robert

Not sure, I dimly remember some 45 caliber Lugers were submitted for military trials. Which might leave the 30 Luger (or Mauser?) and the 9x19. Not just penetrate boiler plate, but .375" of boiler plate. Must be some SMOKIN HOT .30 caliber FMJs they got there.

M-Tecs
07-24-2015, 01:17 PM
Truth in advertising????

ohland
07-24-2015, 06:18 PM
Truth in advertising????

I have seen references in the 1890s (!) to using tungsten in bullets!!! Maybe he came up with a 1900s era SLAP round...

Tatume
07-24-2015, 06:36 PM
Tungsten cored match rifle bullets were used in 1000 yard competition in the 1990's.

ohland
07-24-2015, 08:38 PM
Tungsten cored match rifle bullets were use in 1000 yard competition in the 1990's.

I read an Iron Age article, and there was two methods concerning tungsten bullets. The first was to cast a steel-tungsten bullet, but there would have to be a depression around it to contain a gliding metal ring. The second was to machine it from rods, but the cutting tools of the early 1900s were limited, heck, they were brazing stellite (early use of Tungsten in cutting tools) in that time frame, ceramics were not invented until the 40s?

Not a tungsten core, but a jacket. Without gliding metal, this would probably wear the barrel a bit...

"6. An alloy containing 35 per cent tungsten and 05 per cent iron is used in shells of lead bullets to increase their penetrating power"