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Lefty Red
07-21-2015, 07:17 PM
My CVA Scout Pistol has a generous throat and chamber. With standard length 300 brass, I have allot of jump to the rifling. I tried to set the bullets out, but it doesn't give me enough neck to do so. I shoot 110-130 grain SP bullets.

I ran some longer cut 223 brass thru the FL resizer and trimmed the brass till it fit the chamber. Its a "tad" longer than the standard length brass, maybe 1/32"-3/64". And after seating some bullets for LOA dummy rounds, I now have the COAL I wanted.

Now before I go and load up theses rounds, I want to know if what I did is safe?

Also, what is the best way to get a case out of a LEE FL sizer? Just buy another one?

Jerry

gpidaho
07-21-2015, 07:34 PM
Jerry, I don't see a problem. You may have lucked into a 40X.223 Wilson. I know it's apples and oranges but I cut down 357 Max for my long throated 357 Handi. GP

Lefty Red
07-21-2015, 07:39 PM
Good! I have only had experiance with straight walled calibers til this 300, in reforming. Its 44 mag twin, another Scout Pistol, I was thinking of getting some 445 Super Mag brass and cut it down as well. But will see what this brings first.

Jerry

andremajic
07-21-2015, 07:47 PM
The only drawback I see is you might have to use a couple tenths of a grain more powder to get the same pressures than a standard load. I don't see any drawbacks with what you did, and your brass will last much longer.

Put a little bit of padding on your brass deflector. From my experience the brass deflector will dent the case mouths when they eject and you never fully iron them out with resizing.

After firing, don't forget to measure and trim your case necks when you resize them.

Artful
07-21-2015, 07:51 PM
Also, what is the best way to get a case out of a LEE FL sizer? Just buy another one?

Jerry

You can buy a stuck case remover kit
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/504/504741.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA39EI9ufOw
Or you can check out your tool kit and washer/sockets and remove it with what's on hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqTJ0APAxDQ

keep in mind stack of washers, socket whatever spacer will work - the tap and bolt can
but other than 1/4x20

Lefty Red
07-21-2015, 07:53 PM
The only drawback I see is you might have to use a couple tenths of a grain more powder to get the same pressures than a standard load. I don't see any drawbacks with what you did, and your brass will last much longer.

Put a little bit of padding on your brass deflector. From my experience the brass deflector will dent the case mouths when they eject and you never fully iron them out with resizing.

After firing, don't forget to measure and trim your case necks when you resize them.

I figured I might have to bump my load up a bit.
I am shooting a single shot pistol.

Jerry

popper
07-21-2015, 07:54 PM
300BO is designed for long heavy boolits, lots of freebore. Find the end of the neck and back off a tad. There is a lot of factory 125gr ammo, get some and check it's OAL. Is it safe to use the longer neck, yes. Is it a safe load? Probably not if your intent is to put 20 gr. of powder in it. Get a stuck case extractor or just pound on the decapper stem and plan on getting a new one. Don't know how you can stick a case in 300BO, if you use any lube at all, unless you are sizing the full 223 brass before cutting.

Lefty Red
07-21-2015, 07:54 PM
You can buy a stuck case remover kit
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/504/504741.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA39EI9ufOw
Or you can check out your tool kit and washer/sockets and remove it with what's on hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqTJ0APAxDQ

keep in mind stack of washers, socket whatever spacer will work - the tap and bolt can
but other than 1/4x20

I messed up and the decapping pin is in it as well. :(
THinking I might just have to buy another one.

Jerry

Bzcraig
07-21-2015, 08:15 PM
You should be able to use the decapping pin to drive out the stuck case. Then I take a tubing cutter to remove the case head.

Artful
07-22-2015, 01:10 AM
I messed up and the decapping pin is in it as well. :(
THinking I might just have to buy another one.

Jerry

You might be able to loosen and back off the decapping pin - then drill carefully
and pick you bolt and spacer carefully so it doesn't go too far beyond the web you thread.

Have you tried the LEE factory method first?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylp3fsYrEVw

Lefty Red
07-22-2015, 07:16 AM
You might be able to loosen and back off the decapping pin - then drill carefully
and pick you bolt and spacer carefully so it doesn't go too far beyond the web you thread.

Have you tried the LEE factory method first?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylp3fsYrEVw

I was worried I would damage the pin or die. I will try it!
The case was cut and tumbled and lubed and sized. I just ran it thru a second time and it stuck.
Jerry

jmorris
07-22-2015, 03:42 PM
The only dies that are easier to remove stuck cases than Lee dies are Dillon dies.

With Lee dies you just loosen the collet and drive the pin and case down with a brass hammer.

Lefty Red
07-22-2015, 06:08 PM
Got the case out via Lee Method! Decapper pin is messed up, but that is possibilly due to me beating the pin without the collect collar in it. But still cheaper than buying a new die and its a lesson learned.

Jerry

GhostHawk
07-22-2015, 09:48 PM
Pin's are under 3$, buy spares! Besides, sometimes it is just plain handy to have one handy.

Glad you got it out.

Artful
07-22-2015, 10:35 PM
Like this

http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w658/chris_jones15/IMG_08451_zps93a770a6.jpg (http://s1334.photobucket.com/user/chris_jones15/media/IMG_08451_zps93a770a6.jpg.html)
you will need replacement

but if you just mushroomed the other end of the rod - take your belt sander or grinder and chew off the mushroom head you made.

Lefty Red
07-23-2015, 06:50 AM
Yep! And already ordered three from Lee. :)
I could actually use the FL die as is because I decap with a Lee Universal Decapping Die.
Thanks again.
Jerry

Bzcraig
07-25-2015, 01:44 AM
Pin's are under 3$, buy spares! Besides, sometimes it is just plain handy to have one handy.

Glad you got it out.

Every time I order something from Titan I order an extra.

TreeKiller
07-28-2015, 12:03 AM
Send a pic to Lee they will send you a new one free.

jmorris
07-28-2015, 10:59 AM
Send a pic to Lee they will send you a new one free.


Yep but don't send the pic Artful posted, that is a pistol decap pin.