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tbierley
07-09-2015, 06:27 AM
I had guy offer to sell a box of Hornady #3095 195 gr. I was thinking this for my 1903 for long range 300-600 targets. What do you all thing. Or Hornady A-Max Bullets 30 Caliber (308 Diameter) 208 Grain Boat Tail What will be better. My 1903 likes heavier bullets never shot any over 185. Yes these are J-bullets

William Yanda
07-09-2015, 06:34 AM
For inquiring here about condom bullets you should be whipped with a wet noodle.

tbierley
07-09-2015, 07:07 AM
You are right but no one give me any info on other forums. And here I have all ways got info that I can trust. If I am going to whipped give a good one.

Dryball
07-09-2015, 07:20 AM
I would say it all depends on what you want to do and how cheap they are compared to the A-max. http://www.hornady.com/store/30-Cal-.308-208-gr-A-MAX/ http://www.oaklandtactical.com/Hornady-Match-30-Cal-308-195-gr-BTHP-Qty100-MFG-3095_p_3361.html

Looking at the BC, alone, you would be much better off going with the A-Max for accuracy potential. Only you and your gun can determine that though. BTW, noodles scare me

tbierley
07-09-2015, 07:36 AM
I shot a CMP match at 200 yards the rifle likes 185gr bullets I was using both cast a jacketed. The 150 was not doing as good. The next match will be a 600 yard shoot. If I can get my cast to work I will use them.

tbierley
07-09-2015, 07:49 AM
I shot a CMP match at 200 yards the rifle likes 185gr bullets I was using both cast a jacketed. The 150 was not doing as good. The next match will be a 600 yard shoot. If I can get my cast to work I will use them.

Multigunner
07-09-2015, 08:34 AM
We have a CB loads for military rifles forum, the plain old Military Rifles forum is open to all aspects of the military rifles including the various jacketed bullets, mostly mil spec FMJ but other specialized bullets as well.

Scharfschuetze
07-09-2015, 11:34 AM
I've had good luck with heavier jacketed bullets at 600 to 1,000 yards with bolt action 30/06 rifles in match shooting.

While I haven't tried your specific brand, I have used the Sierra 190 grain Match King and the Berger 185 grain VLD. I've got to say though, that in the Ought-Six, they really fatigue me after a 20 round string of fire. Recoil is subjective, but these really seem to beat me up, particularly after a long range event with 60 or 80 shots fired for record.

Your 1903 with its 1 in 10" twist should handle any of the heavy bullets that you are considering.

Back when we were limited to 308 calibre rifles and bullets no heavier than 155 grains in the Palma matches, the Sierra 155 grain Palma match bullet was very useful all the way to 1,000 yards.

You should be good to go with your two options, but whichever shoots best is your final choice. Short range groups at 100 or 200 yards, while an indication, may not predict which bullet will shoot the best at 600 yards. Only a few matches at long range will really tell the story.

For over the course loads (200 to 600 and 1,000 yards), the 175 grain weight match bullets are always a good choice in the 30 calibre rifles. While now eclipsed by the 175 grain projectiles, the old 168 grain weight match bullets have given me many great scores at 600 yards and might be a good option if they are available. Back in the 60s, 70s and 80s, this was the "go to" bullet weight for the 308 and 30/06, even though the SMK 168 grain was designed originally for the 300 meter international course of fire.

country gent
07-09-2015, 11:47 AM
Almost any good bullet and load will work for 600yds I have used 155-175 grn match bullets here in 30 cal rifles ( M1As mostly). If you can find them the old 173 grn fmj was a solid performer in some rifles out to 1000 yds. This was loaded in the old special ball ammo. The best thing is to experiment a little at the farthest range possible 200 may not show everything 300 is better but if you can get some practice at 600 then you know for sure whats going on. We had a club that from time change to time change held 600yd practices every wensday evening. Was very enlightening to lay down in a sandbagged prone position and test loads.