Mini-14 Tactical now available in 300 Blackout

[Artful]

http://www.ruger.com/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymfdQ_pD-d0

[timspawn]

What kind of can is that? It looks like an old XXX Warrior.

[Artful]

At the beginning of the video they identify it as "Elite Iron Battle Dog" suppressor

[timspawn]

At the beginning of the video they identify it as "Elite Iron Battle Dog" suppressor

I see that now. Missed it the first time.

[TXGunNut]

Not a big fan of the 300 BO or the Mini-14 but I can see Ruger has a workable product here. Should be interesting.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I have only one problem with this video. The guy,,,Who should know better,,, was just dumping his precious Ruger factor magazines on the ground.

This is not something you should do at a practice range.. Problems follow. Maybe in a gun fight.

It does look like Ruger may sell a few of these guns. It will be interesting to see how long the .300 BLK fad lasts.

I do like the new Tactical Carbines,,, They look like real proper guns and the ability to put on different muzzle accessories is a great feature.

Now if we can only get Tapco to make 10 and 20 round versions of their great Mini14 mags we'll have it beat.

Randy

[Artful]

Now if we can only get Tapco to make 10 and 20 round versions of their great Mini14 mags we'll have it beat.

Randy

Are you having a problem with 10 and 20 round factory magazines Randy?

And you notice the 5 round Tapco magazine is the same size as their 30 rounder
http://www.tapco.com/products/ruger/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=419

You can bet the 10 or 20 would be the same.

[quasi]

Mini 14`s are hard to find up here, I would rather have a Mini-30 than a 300 Blackout.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Art: yes I am,,, They cost way too much and they rust!

The TAPCO 30 rounder's are excellent and feed perfectly and they look cool too.

Shorter ones built like the 30 rounders would be cool. I personally prefer running 10 round mags, as the gun handles better with shorter mags. Have you tried going prone with a 30 round mag hanging out the bottom?

Also they won't let us run longer mags in any of my 3 gun events.

Incidentally: I tried to insert my loaded 10 round mags into the gun last night and the unmodified one went in fine. The one I filed on wouldn't,,, which means it needs more work. I was sure this was fixed but obviously I was not quite there.

The loaded 30 round TAPCO's go in perfectly.

I have to confess I like good plastic used on high usage guns like AR's and Mini's. The trigger guard on my Scout Rifle never bothered me in the slightest and my plastic mags for that gun run way smoother than the steel ones do and cost half as much.

Randy

[Artful]

Art: yes I am,,, They cost way too much and they rust!

You can't blame the rust on the material - it's the owner/operator.
Little JPW will help ya out from that pesty rust.

The TAPCO 30 rounder's are excellent and feed perfectly and they look cool too.

Shorter ones built like the 30 rounders would be cool.

Yeah, but the Tapco 5 rounder is the same length as the 30 rounder - so much for that dream.

I personally prefer running 10 round mags, as the gun handles better with shorter mags.

It can for woods walking and the like - I agree.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/rowdyfisk/RugerMini-14556ScoutCarbine.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rowdyfisk/media/RugerMini-14556ScoutCarbine.jpg.html)

Have you tried going prone with a 30 round mag hanging out the bottom?

Yep, Monopod - but trying to get really down low you need to turn it sideways.

Also they won't let us run longer mags in any of my 3 gun events.

That sounds like a personal problem between you and your range masters.

Incidentally: I tried to insert my loaded 10 round mags into the gun last night and the unmodified one went in fine.
The one I filed on wouldn't,,, which means it needs more work.
I was sure this was fixed but obviously I was not quite there.

The loaded 30 round TAPCO's go in perfectly.

I have to confess I like good plastic used on high usage guns like AR's and Mini's.

The trigger guard on my Scout Rifle never bothered me in the slightest and
my plastic mags for that gun run way smoother than the steel ones do and cost half as much.

Randy

Well being the nig·gard·ly* person I am I would tend to prefer Tapco myself.

*
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niggardly


Full Definition of NIGGARDLY1
: grudgingly mean about spending or granting : begrudging (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/begrudging)

2

: provided in meanly limited supply

[W.R.Buchanan]

Thanks for that definition, we wouldn't want to play the race card here!

Yes I know about the 5 round Tapcos. When I pressed them for the shorter mags at the SHOT Show last year they told me they had been bought up by Freedom Group and as such decisions on product development were no longer in the hands of the previous owners.

Shorter mags, especially 10 round versions were a no brainer for them, considering all the states disallowing longer mags.

I wish Magpul would make mags for Mini 14's, that problem would be solved for good. Their AR mags are used in my other two guns, (AR and Kel Tec) and they are beyond reproach.

I saturated my Ruger steel mags with Frog Lube a couple of years ago and have kept the rust monkey at bay for now. But any time they are used in a humid atmosphere I have to deal with them again when I get home or they will have a coating of rust by the next day.

The personal problem is not a range master it is a Governor and AG. I live in CA!

Randy

[Artful]

Definition was for others on this site. Don't ask.

[W.R.Buchanan]

ART: My new side mounted 1.5" wide slings are just the ticket for walking around.

The gun is carried Cross Body and the sling is quickly adjustable for length while you are in the sling like a Vickers sling does.

The 1.5" width spreads the weight out over a greater surface area and reduces fatigue a lot.

I used my prototype AR model at Front Sight two weeks ago, and it worked out perfectly. I am ready to go into production on it.

I have to SUS out getting some other parts sewn together for the non AR models and they will work on guns that normally mount the sling in sling swivels on the bottom of the gun and convert it to side mounted sling attachment. I prefer to have the rifle laying flat on my back instead of magazines and trigger guards poking me in the back all day long. Many Military's had rifles with side mounted slings and to this day I don't understand why all of them didn't. Guns just carry better like that.

Randy

[Artful]

I make my own carry strapping out of seat belt webbing for a fair number of my guns.

And my AC556 has the sling mount on the side so that's an option if you can get ruger to turn loose of gas block

[W.R.Buchanan]

Art; I have a cable setup that hooks onto the front sight of an AR to anchor the sling up front. The rear just picks up any of the existing slots.

My early prototypes were made from 5.11 BDU belts. They actually told me where to buy the material and that helped a lot.

I am having the first run sewed together this week. PM me!

Pic of the AC556 gas block please? If it exists,,, I can get it.

Also looking at having bigger loops made for Uncle Mikes type QD Sling Swivels.

Randy

[Artful]

AC556/GB vs Mini
http://www.amegaranges.com/product_pages/images/barrel_ID/mini14gb.jpg

The folding stock GB's and AC556's had it on the side
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/tydes/8EC85479-1035-4F1E-8A67-CAD0BB2F99FD-2145-0000018CA8755749.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/tydes/media/8EC85479-1035-4F1E-8A67-CAD0BB2F99FD-2145-0000018CA8755749.jpg.html)

A-team
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/5150rob/8.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/5150rob/media/8.jpg.html)

Isreali's use front sight tower and boot lace system
http://i38.tinypic.com/292l2z9.jpg
got to keep it off the barrel or it melts synthetic boot laces - Cotton & leather burn :shock:

You know what would be great a Mini-14 gas block
that didn't have swivels but was cast with connections
on either side and the bottom to take Uncle Mike's type Sling Swivels and be adjustable for gas thru put.

You could either sell it with AC type front sight
http://i26.tinypic.com/2wox5c4.jpg
or make a short rail with front sight built in but
a single slot for a small Red Dot like the Bushnell
http://ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/accessories_img/g12.jpg
http://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/accessories_img/scout_mount_2.gif

Once upon a time I remember seeing someone that had a bearing that went around the barrel with a race that had the sling mount so it would do 360 deg.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Art: Thanks for the pics, you always do real good on posting pics,,, I don't know how you always find them!

For the AR sling I have a cable that slip ties into the Front Sight. On my Prototype I used Para Cord and ran it thru the front swivel but the gun doesn't hang like I want and I knew it had to attach to the Front Sight so I looked around and got the Cable idea from an AR Gunsmithing book by Pat Sweeny. I figured out a better and simpler way to make what he showed in the book .

I can probably get the AS556 Gas Block, but I doubt I could get them in quantity,,, maybe? All depends on what Ruger was making at the time. It would undoubtedly be the best way to attach the sling to the front end of the gun. Unfortunately it would raise the cost of my sling well past what anybody would pay.

I have some Velcro attachments designed that will do the job and be simple enough that anyone can install it.

As far as making the gas block adjustable, what ASI does is make a new fixed gas Piston with a hole in it with 6-32 threads in the end. And then you drill a hole in the gas block directly in line with the fixed gas piston. This hole is clearance for the 6-32 screw that will choke the gas flow into the piston which drives the op rod.

I bought the piston from them for $35 as the Ruger one is hard and can't be drilled and tapped. ASI's are made by them from scratch with the hole and then hardened.

Randy

[Artful]

Art: Thanks for the pics, you always do real good on posting pics,,, I don't know how you always find them!

I don't always find what I want but I do what I can.

I can probably get the AS556 Gas Block, but I doubt I could get them in quantity,,, maybe? All depends on what Ruger was making at the time. It would undoubtedly be the best way to attach the sling to the front end of the gun. Unfortunately it would raise the cost of my sling well past what anybody would pay.

If you get your hands on some I'd buy several from ya.

I have some Velcro attachments designed that will do the job and be simple enough that anyone can install it.

Randy

I've done some velcro stuff myself - usually works very well.
I've patterned some like this one
https://www.spectergear.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=544
https://www.spectergear.com/v/vspfiles/photos/544-3.jpg

Of course where there's a will there's a way

Midwest SR22 sling adapter
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/20425d1304729824-sling-mini-14-dsc02368-jpg
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/20505d1306439369-changing-sling-swivels-dsc02393.jpg

Studly modification
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/23390d1357712568-diy-ak-style-sling-mount-mini-14-pict1273.jpg

Mount short weaver scope mount and put on this
http://guideimg.alibaba.com/images/shop/88/11/20/8/promag-pm131-picatinny-rail-quick-disconnect-sling-swivel-black_972318.jpg

This is interesting...
[/quote]
Some particulars:

The buttonhead screw on the offside of the swivel needs to have a little bit of a flat ground or filed on one side to make it rest flush on the face of the block. his also helps with indexing the angle of the swivel.

Crank the coupling nut on tight.

Screw on the swivel stud tight. It probably won't be in the correct/vertical position on the first try. Unless you're that lucky, you'll now have to remove the coupling nut and remove some material from one end. Reassemble and recheck the swivel angle. It will probably take a few tries to get the swivel vertical with everything screwed down tight.

Once you're satisfied with fitment, disassemble it all, hit the threads with red loctite, and reassemble.

The reason I wouldn't just run the swivel stud straight through to a nut on the other side of the block is that this will put all of the side load (leverage) while carrying on the gas block itself, which would probably crack.[/quote]

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/20398d1304346372-mounting-sling-stud-front-swivel.jpg

And the ultimate
piece .250 SS bar stock, drilled both ends to fit the swivel, machined a flat on one side and TIG welded it to the gas block. Also TIGed up the original hole on the bottom.

Drilled the rod from both ends just deep enough to accept the swivel, if you just drilled the rod all the way through the swivel would rattle, unless you put a short section of roll pin in the middle to center the swivel.

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/23438d1358294764-diy-ak-style-sling-mount-mini-14-img_0220.jpg
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/23439d1358294764-diy-ak-style-sling-mount-mini-14-img_0225.jpg

[Artful]

Ha, found the other barrel mount I was talking about
http://gunandsurplus.com/Gun-Parts-Accessories/Ruger-Mini-14-30/Ruger-Mini-14-Barrel-Sling-Swivel-Eagle-International-BLUED
http://gunandsurplus.com/images/PICTURES/Ruger_Mini_14_Barrel_Sling_Swivel_BLUED.png


Ruger Mini 14 Barrel Sling Swivel Eagle International (BLUED)$19.99

Vintage eagle international barrel sling swivel
These are old stock 25+years poor storage resulted in some handling marks and a couple of swivels with light pitting.

Available in both black and Stainless
Limited Quantities

Model: F22-
5 Units in Stock

[W.R.Buchanan]

Art: I did the Velcro thing on my Mini 14 prototype 2 years ago just like that. It works well but has to be hooked to the gas block with a tie wrap or something so it won't slip around,,, so does the rear cradle unless the buttstock has enough taper on it to hold it's position when you carry with the muzzle down.

Like I said the AR version is pretty simple, the ones that have to use the Velcro are a little more complicated.

Randy

[7.62x39]

And the ultimate
piece .250 SS bar stock, drilled both ends to fit the swivel, machined a flat on one side and TIG welded it to the gas block. Also TIGed up the original hole on the bottom.

Drilled the rod from both ends just deep enough to accept the swivel, if you just drilled the rod all the way through the swivel would rattle, unless you put a short section of roll pin in the middle to center the swivel.

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/23438d1358294764-diy-ak-style-sling-mount-mini-14-img_0220.jpg
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/attachments/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/23439d1358294764-diy-ak-style-sling-mount-mini-14-img_0225.jpg

Glad you like it. Imagine my surprise running across my own post/rifle here. I'm toying with the idea of tossing it in the mill and removing the webbing also, that would complete the transition.