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GRUMPA
06-08-2015, 06:08 PM
I'm converting these from 308LC brass, I know they're heavier than factory brass but I just don't have any empty factory brass laying around to check. Can a couple of you folks tell me what your factory 250 Savage brass weighs without a primer? And if so please be sure you mention the head stamp.

Thanks....GRUMPA

armprairie
06-14-2015, 11:49 PM
Winchester weigh 154 grains, Remington weigh 152.3 grains. You're right, yours will be heavier because the brass gets about 50% thicker on 308 and 243 cases as it gets close to the head, even commercial ones. Your military will be more perhaps. You'll have a stronger case, but a little less capacity, so drop your charges a little till you find out what works best. Too bad you don't have 243 cases, it's a lot less work.

GRUMPA
06-15-2015, 12:51 AM
I've done 243 cases, problem with those is they're shorter than spec. When someone comes out with a case stretcher I'll look into it. But the 243 conversion does require reaming in order to make work.

Thanks for the info, the 250Sav I have made are out for field trials. I'm only concerned at the moment with the base diameter on those. The SAAMI spec calls out a diameter of .467 and mine are .001 over that. The one thing about making those is chambers vary to some degree, so some will fit a chamber and some wont unless I make the base smaller.

timspawn
06-15-2015, 10:46 PM
What about using 22-250 brass? I think it ends up just a bit short also. I've formed it but never fired it as I don't own a rifle yet.

GRUMPA
06-15-2015, 10:59 PM
Ever try and find 22-250 lately at a good price? And if you do find some, how many times have you had to grab your ankles on the way to your wallet?

timspawn
06-15-2015, 11:09 PM
Didn't know it was expensive. I've never bought it.

GRUMPA
06-15-2015, 11:28 PM
First and foremost rule in case conversion, always work with a parent case that's cheap and abundant.

Artful
06-16-2015, 12:28 AM
First and foremost rule in case conversion, always work with a parent case that's cheap and abundant.

+1

And in wildcat design as well !

Wayne Smith
06-16-2015, 11:42 AM
A number of years ago I remember seeing video of a case stretcher - it was linked from this site or from Shooters.com. I vaguely remember that it was related to Buffalo Arms and their brass making operation.

GRUMPA
06-16-2015, 12:00 PM
Wayne.....you might be referring to this item...

http://kal.castpics.net/CaseStretcher.html

Wayne Smith
06-16-2015, 03:12 PM
Sure does look like it. I remember seeing it in operation, though. I remember thinking it a good idea but more expensive than I liked, for a hobby.