30 cal silencer for my Blackout

[vettebob]

I made a silencer for my blackout out of titanium and thought I'd share a few pics.
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[Artful]

looks good - how does it sound?

[vettebob]

Haven't put a db meter to it yet. But it's quiet enough to hear the bolt cycle

[blademasterii]

looks sweet, I have a liberty mystic on mine. Waiting on a friend to finish a colaboration on a .50 cal can for my beowulf. :D

[wonderwolf]

Hows that liberty mystic working out for you blademasterii? I've been looking at one on and off for the last few months for my Ruger 77 in .357

[blademasterii]

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[HollowPoint]

That's good work. I dream of making my first "Form-1" can in the near future. I'm still a little confused on how the "Form-1" process works though. Right now I'm in no particular hurry.

I took delivery of my first suppressor about a month ago and I still haven't gotten a chance to go out and test it yet. My rifle muzzles are all threaded. It's the free-time that eludes me.

I'd love to build my own cans from here on out. I can just use my present suppressor as a general template for any future builds. What lead you to use the pattern you used to build your can?

HollowPoint

[Artful]

Easy to do a Form 1 can these days.

1. buy the parts (leave as is, make no changes to it)
2. design the can based on those parts
3. submit Form 1
4. receive approved Form 1
5. make LEGAL can?

Actually my First step is to send $200 with your forms to BATFE - address is on the forms, then wait for approval to build the can.

Only thing you have to decide is how long your can is going to be.
check out some of the many parts supply places
http://form1suppressor.boards.net/

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[Artful]

This can is a simple cone baffle which looks like a freeze plug design

Subsonic
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9wxTkJbyVqJT0c1OGhYMG1tT1k/edit?pli=1

Super Sonic
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9wxTkJbyVqJNjZDUEVGX09ZTGM/edit?usp=docslist_api

[HollowPoint]

The suppressor I have now is a 30 caliber mono-core user serviceable design. I bought it because it will allow me to clean it after shooting cast bullets.

I have the machinery to make a similar type of suppressor. What I'm still lacking is a little more knowledge on the subject of forms and such. As I stated before, I'm in no particular hurry. The can I have now will do double or triple duty on the rifle calibers I'm shooting and loading for right now.

I also dream of re-barreling and re-chambering my K-31 from 7.5 to 6.5 x 55 Swedish. I've got alot of dreams and not enough time to tackle them all. If or when that re-barreling dream comes to fruition, I'd like to have a dedicated suppressor for it.

HollowPoint

[HATCH]

If you are going to do multiple form 1s or own multiple NFA weapons then you should do a trust.
You can list "co-trusties" that can possess anything owned by the trust.
As a added benifit right now it takes about 30 to 45 days to get approved vs 6 months as a individual.

[xacex]

Nice baffle stack! Much better than my freeze plug cones in a titanium tube. Just took my 9mm can out yesterday with some 125 grain subsonic loads. What a blast! The blackout is fun to, but there is something about how quiet red dot loads are that lead me to build a 9mm AR, and suppress it. Now to try it on my SBR lower, and put the slide fire stock on. The 9mm cycles fast so that should be a hoot.

[Gunslingerdoc]

Another reason I need a good dividing head! baffles seem a pain to turn. I think I'd go mono core and mill it though Ive not seen that done well with anything but 22lr cans.

[wonderwolf]

Another reason I need a good dividing head! baffles seem a pain to turn. I think I'd go mono core and mill it though Ive not seen that done well with anything but 22lr cans.

You can do some pretty accurate work with these http://www.ebay.com/itm/310912094254?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I've don't reamers and all sorts of stuff with mine, and they are affordable though you will spend some time milling the base for slots to mount as well as upgrading some of the pins etc (easy to do).

[Tackleberry41]

I have not found standard 60deg baffles that hard to turn out, or K style. Now that little extra machining you do might complicate things.

[vettebob]

It took about 15-20 minutes per baffle to turn out of Titainuim. Bob

[Kilroy08]

I am suitably envious. I wish I was able to do cool stuff like that.

Well... I am able, being a machinist. However, my state is downright inhospitable when is comes to NFA stuff. We can have short barreled rifles and any other weapons (but not smooth bore AOWs).

That's some sweet machine work you did, though.

[Jupiter7]

If you are going to do multiple form 1s or own multiple NFA weapons then you should do a trust.
You can list "co-trusties" that can possess anything owned by the trust.
As a added benifit right now it takes about 30 to 45 days to get approved vs 6 months as a individual.

I wish it was 45 days. Doubled roughly now. I've got 4 pending from mid April. 3 f1 suppressors, 1 f1 lower. You are correct on the trust. I wouldn't do it any other way. My first will be a 1.625"x8.5" all titanium custom solvent trap, repurposed after F1 approval. I'll be turning simple cone baffles for all 3. I'll cut, turn and thread the other 2 myself, one alum 22 and one stainless rifle can. May do 1-2 more, would like a 50 can for the beowulf and a centerfire pistol can. Too many choices!

[HATCH]

The wait is gonna get longer closer to the end of the year

[HollowPoint]

Actually I did set up a trust when I purchased the suppressor I eluded to in an earlier post. 45 or so days is a whole lot less than the several months it took to receive my store-bought can.

Now it's just a matter of coming up with the two hundred dollars worth of spare change and the free time to do it with.

HollowPoint

[dougader]

This is some great information, you guys. Someday....

[Elkins45]

This is some great information, you guys. Someday....

You might want to bump up 'someday' to this summer or fall at the latest, at least if you want to go the trust route easily. If ATF 41P gets implemented as proposed then every trustee will have to do fingerprints and CLEO signoff. ATF has supposedly made some indications that they might be able to make a pronouncement by year's end.

The conventional wisdom is that any applications already in the pipeline when that happens will get processed w/o having to be changed, so a lot of guys are getting stuff in while they can.

[Elkins45]

One positive aspect of doing a Form 1 for a silencer is that you're under no obligation to have it built on a certain timeline. I did a 45 caliber 10" can back in the spring on a Form 1 and I probably won't even start making it until later this summer. My first Form 1 was a paper form that came in back in winter of last year and I haven't built it yet either.

Dang, I'm talking myself into submitting a couple more eforms now...

[cs86]

Can someone list a few links on filing for a suppressor, or links on learning about the different forms? Eventually I'd like to build a suppressor, but don't see it happening for a long time. What little I read yesterday it sounds like you have to list exactly what gun, what length and be very specific when you fill out a form, but from what you guys have been posting it sounds different. I'd like to understand more about the "trust" route. Thanks for any help.

I did go here: http://form1suppressor.boards.net/ but this looks like for building one. I'll have to dig a little deeper and see what they have on there.

[Artful]

cs86 - go to this forum and link
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=87943

[cs86]

Thanks, I just found this walk through that appears to be good step by step.

http://form1suppressor.boards.net/thread/17/visual-guide-eforms-form-submission

[Artful]

Hmm, appears to be same poster maybe.

[dg31872]

Okay. I have been reading a little about this "can" thing for a while and am interested in one for a 30-30.
I know next to nothing about what I need and how to go about doing it.

Where is a good place to learn from the beginning?

[Artful]

go to the two links above then register and read the rest of the forum