WHat to watch for with swiss powder

[country gent]

I got caught here I ordered a mixed case of old ensford 1 1/2 and 2f, Swiss 1 and 1.5 f. The old ensford stated right out shooting great with little to no fouling issues in my 45-90 and 40-65. Way better than the Goex I was struggling with. Well I wasnt paying attention, I just loaded the last of the 1 1/2 eold ensford in my 45-90 and am going to put together some test loads with the swiss to try it. I have 1 and 1.5F. Unless information changes my thoughts Im going to drop the 70 grn charge Ive been using and start testing there with 1.5 F swiss. Monday I will order more old ensford. That went quick even for me. LOL The 70 grn load with .060 wad gives around .100 compression of powder. Im working with a 550 grn bullet.

[Gunlaker]

The .45-2.4" eats that stuff pretty quickly :-). I've been going through about a pound a week in the last while between the PP rifle and the little .40-65.

I know that a lot of people advocate zero compression with Swiss. I do know that 69gr of Swiss 1.5 works quite well in my Shiloh chambered in .45-70. There is some compression with that load. My PP rifle is getting very low muzzle velocity variation with a lightly compressed load of Swiss 1.5.

Chris.

[country gent]

Thanks Chris. in my rifle the 547 grn bullet from old west is seating into case almost .680 deep from case mouth. I have read alot on the swiss here and other places.

[rfd]

the powder do go fast, with the .45-70 and .40-65 i was going thru only 26 and 19 grains of 5744, but now it's more like 68 and 52 grains of swiss 1-1/2. it's a great thing that black is so easy to get. man that swiss is nice. i've gotta give oe some testing, too.

[country gent]

Yes it does go fast these rifles and cartridges are addictive. I bought a mixed 25 lb case of Old Ensford and Swiss 1f 1.5f and 2f to test in my rifles last fall and now theres a little 2 f OE left and the swiss. I started with the OE and it worked so well I didnt go any further then.

[Sharpsman]

I'm proud you fellows don't like KIK!!

[country gent]

Fired 20 rds of the swiss 1F today to test. SImply dropped the load that worked with olde ensford into case added a .060 napa rubber fiber wad compressed to depth and hand seated the old west 547 grn bullets. Shot pretty good at 200 yds today 2 1/2-3" groups fopr 10 shots. Simply gave one deep long breath thru blow tube. Fouling was almost non existant when cleaned after 10 rds fired. windex 4-5 strokes with nylon brush and 3 patches. Last patch shoed very little fouling a few light black spots is all. Looking good so far need to test to see if aditional cost is justified though

[Hiwall55]

Try the 1.5 it will out shoot all of them . In my 45-90 I drop 74.5 and compress it .050 and seat a 540 grain Paul Jones Postel on it . Shoots real well.

[Knarley]

Was wondering how does Graf & Sons powder compare?

[Don McDowell]

Graf's powder is Schuetzen relabeled. It's a pretty good powder, about on par with KIK and a bit better than regular Goex.