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SeabeeMan
04-14-2015, 06:36 PM
I shot cast in 2 1911's and plan to add a 45 carbine at some point. I currently feed them with a lee 228gr rn mold. Am I correct in my understanding that the 68 design is specifically designed to feed reliably in 1911s while still maintaining the accuracy and hole punching of a semi wad cutter? NOE has them on the specials list this week and that has me drooling.

birddog
04-14-2015, 07:02 PM
That would be the one, been told if your 1911 wouldn't shoot the H&G 68 it was time to trade. Just remember that bollit is 200gr so a few more for the pound.
Charlie

rintinglen
04-14-2015, 07:46 PM
My SIL has a Paraordnance P-12 that feeds my H&G handloads, but chokes on PMC hardball. I have yet to encounter a 45 that would function with Hardball, but gag on properly made H&G 68 reloads. Mtngun44 has a neat picture that shows exactly why this is so.

garym1a2
04-14-2015, 08:34 PM
I only have the Lee version and samples of the HG68 version. They both shoot quite well in my Glock21SF, back when I had a Kimber 1911 the Lee bullet also was very accurate and rather reliable. Just in 1911 you need good mags.

oldfart1956
04-14-2015, 09:15 PM
Copies of the H&G boolit seem to vary quite a bit. I have the Lyman 452460 version and with 3 different 1911's couldn't get reliable function after a couple months of trying so I threw in the towel. (7 different magazines and various o.a.l.) Makes a dandy boolit for the .45 colt though! Back to round nosers. Audie...the Oldfart..

Bohica793
04-14-2015, 09:49 PM
I have the NOE H&G 68 mold (just upgraded from the 2 to the 4 cavity model) and my 1911 loves them.

SeabeeMan
04-14-2015, 10:00 PM
That's does it...I'm ordering the 5 cavity tonight. This makes 2 NOE molds, which means I may have officially hit the slippery slope.

SeabeeMan
04-14-2015, 10:09 PM
Or not. Sold out in the 4 and 5 cav. Hopefully he'll have more this week while they're on sale. Apparently I haven't learned to not wait.

Le Loup Solitaire
04-14-2015, 10:14 PM
The design of the H&G #68 has always been a popular one for use in 45ACP. One of its strongpoints has been reliable feeding and good accuracy. A popular load for it traditionally has been 3.5 grains of bullseye, but there are other loadings that work as well. My own mold is a H&G 4 cavity and when it is in rythm it produces a large number of casts reliably. The 225-230 grain roundnose such as Lyman #452374,H&G #34 or the RCBS 225 are all excellent feeders and performers in the 45ACP as well, but being RN's do not cut a clean hole in the target like a wadcutter design. All of the above mentioned should be loaded with a slight taper crimp to allow correct seating of the case mouth when the round is chambered. Approximate suggestion would be around .471 or so. LLS

runfiverun
04-14-2015, 11:34 PM
Copies of the H&G boolit seem to vary quite a bit. I have the Lyman 452460 version and with 3 different 1911's couldn't get reliable function after a couple months of trying so I threw in the towel. (7 different magazines and various o.a.l.) Makes a dandy boolit for the .45 colt though! Back to round nosers. Audie...the Oldfart..

the 460 is not an H&G 68 copy the nose is completely different and much shorter.
once I found out my 1911's would feed and shoot the 460 100% [it also works very well in my revolvers] and it also feeds through my 45 colt lever guns, I sold my magma engineering 68 copy.

I get the 460 to feed by simply seating the shoulder even with the case mouth and crimp light enough to iron the sides flat. [in the 45 colt cases too]

Cmm_3940
04-15-2015, 12:34 AM
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?products_id=1817&osCsid=303ighh6302plpliq45ntq1mg2

As of 3 mins ago. I seriously considered jumping on this one myself.

MtGun44
04-15-2015, 12:56 AM
Listen to run5run - 460 is a good design, IME ever so slightly more accurate than the H&G68 in
several 1911s, but is also a slightly less than perfect feeder in some guns. SIgnificantly shorter
nose, and like many Lyman molds, the shape wandered around a good bit over the decades.

Basically, a properly loaded (1.250-1.260 LOA, TC as a separate operation to .466-.467)
H&G 68 will feed in any 1911 made these days. VERY reliable, accurate and IMO, THE first choice
for .45 ACP, esp in the 1911 platform. Some Euroguns do not like SWCs of any kind, but this is
THE one in the 1911.

IPSC shooters and Bullseye shooters have pushed many, many millions downrange and it is a top performer.

captaint
04-16-2015, 06:51 PM
I am a big fan of the Lyman 452460. Guess I've been lucky, I never had any trouble getting it to feed in my 1911's. I just checked, and I load mine to OAL of 1.178. Considerably shorter than the H&G 68's. They go OAL of about 1.250. One thing for sure - we can't go wrong with the 68 - or a GOOD clone (like the NOE). I don't own an NOE mold that I'm not very happy with. Great people, great product. Made right here in the USA.

Boolseye
04-20-2015, 09:29 PM
I shot a 2700 Bullseye match last year with handloaded Lee 200 gr. SWC loaded as MTgun44 described (a thumbnail's width of the bearing surface above the case mouth, taper crimp about 467). Nary a hiccup out of my mil-spec SA 1911. 180 shots under pressure. When I had feeding issues with this boolit it was due to not enough crimp. I'd grab one of the NOE 4- or 5-cavs-they're available now.