Load your own .22 RF

[dakotashooter2]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22LR-RELOADING-KIT-TWO-BULLET-MOLDS-INSIDE-CRIMPING-TOOL-/181716597541?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4f273b25

[Ed Barrett]

Can you read the details? Mine is all jumbled together.

[dakotashooter2]

It was clear on Ebay. Must be something with the link. I'll try again.http://www.ebay.com/itm/22LR-RELOADING-KIT-TWO-BULLET-MOLDS-INSIDE-CRIMPING-TOOL-/181716597541?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4f273b25

[dtknowles]

It was messed up when I went to the site but here it is as

best I can clean it up


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[Hannibal]

And ONLY 6 easy payments of $25 or a one time charge of $145. Wow.

[Blacksmith]

Before I spend the money I want to know what they are using as a primer mixture, where do you get it, and how you get it into the rim.

As I understand current .22 manufacture they use either a "wet" process and spin the cases to use centrifugal force to get the primer where it needs to go. Or they use a "dry" process that is a proprietary method developed by Eley, that they license, pressing a dry mixture in place that is later activated by a liquid to make it sensitive to impact.

[xs11jack]

I thought I saw a u-tube thingy some time ago that used black powder as the primer material.
Ole Jack

[Uncle Jimbo]

Look here.
http://22lrreloader.com/

[cold1]

I thought I saw a u-tube thingy some time ago that used black powder as the primer material.
Ole Jack

The one I watched used strike anywhere match heads mashed up and wet. Used a toothpick to push it into the rim. No thanks!

[flyingmonkey35]

Ha its 65bucks on the website for the eco version.

[texaswoodworker]

Interesting, but it kind of looks like more trouble than its worth. How much time and would it take to reload 500 rounds?

[SSGOldfart]

The one I watched used strike anywhere match heads mashed up and wet. Used a toothpick to push it into the rim. No thanks!
Yep caps and match tips is the primer use with black powder in this kit not sure I want to go this route?

[Hannibal]

Fellas, I was being facetious. No way am I going to plunk down my hard-earned dollar unless and until this is proven to be a viable and safe option. Which I suspect will never be the case, but given the present situation, it bears watching. IMHO.

[kristopher.wheeler]

I'd be into that at about $30-35. It would be a fun way to kill some time, but I just can't see myself spending $75 on it.

[Freightman]

Kind of like redoing primers with caps not fun.

[oldred]

This match head thing has been covered several times in the past but you simply can't get them anymore! I know, I know, Google "strike anywhere matches" and you will find lot's of them but they simply are not real strike anywhere like we could get only a couple of years ago, they are not even close to being the same! What is sold for strike anywhere matches these days (due to federal regulations) contain only a very tiny tip of the material needed for priming, the rest of the head is useless for this. This tiny (barely a trace) tip is hardly enough to light the match reliably rendering strike anywhere matches little more than a gimmick aimed at a huge market for the real thing and some shady sales tactics bears this out. I suppose it can be truthfully pointed out that yes you CAN make primers with today's strike anywhere matches BUT only with great effort and considerable expense! The tips are so tiny that it takes a great many matches to harvest any usable amount of material, many times more than the matches of old, and these things cost several times what the old ones did.

A .79 cents box of matches from several years ago (the price on the box I have) costs about $3 to $5 now and will yield only a fraction of the material of the .79 cent box and that is IF you can even manage to get it separated cleanly! This in itself is a daunting task since the tips are now so small but to make things even worse at least one company now colors the tip much farther back on the head to make it FALSELY APPEAR to be the same as the old ones, this makes separating the usable part even harder and in fact nearly impossible. The same company is now also marking a new and totally useless strike-only-on-the-box type of match as the now defunct and highly sought after Ohio Blue Tip match which was once the very best choice. The new Ohio Blue Tip is useless but the box and logo appear to be exactly like the old brand, obviously an attempt to dupe people into thinking they are buying something they can actually no longer get.

The bottom line is that anyone buying one of these outfits is going to be sorely disappointed if they are expecting to use match heads for the priming material, even IF they can manage to separate enough usable material from the goofy things we can buy today it's going to be horribly expensive! Match heads were once a viable option BUT NO MORE!

An interesting read here,

http://kissurvival.com/strike-anywhere-matches/

This article is a couple of years old and the situation now is even worse!

[captaint]

I love handloading - however - let's see, prime the case, put the powder in, now we have to seat & crimp that little boolit without tapping on the base of the brass ?? Might be a good trick. Interesting idea though. Hope it never comes to this...

[flyingmonkey35]

Well if you scrap out a small pistol primer.

Your at about 3.5 cents a round.

This has been tested and works.

[flyingmonkey35]

Wow



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[flyingmonkey35]

Way to much for shipping they can keep it

[oldred]

Well if you scrap out a small pistol primer.


Just curious, since I have never done this with a primer I was wondering why you would choose a small pistol primer? If you're going to go to the effort to harvest the priming compound from a commercially produced primer why would you not choose a large rifle magnum primer instead of a small pistol primer? It would seem that the LR magnum primers would yield a lot more compound for about the same money and effort wouldn't it? Again I am just asking since I have never tried to do that.

[flyingmonkey35]

Not sure.

I read it a different post and some one had success.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=268442
22lr post 45.

An he used a lp
I'm not sure what would happen if you put too much primer compound.

Or if your thing two for one

I was also thinking u could harvest a black powder cap as well.

But your right the price is negateable.

I also emails the sellers and they state its free shipping. And there now fixing that.

[Ed Barrett]

I will wait for someone to buy one and give a review of this kit. After reloading 1000 rounds.

[dtknowles]

Does anyone else make a mould for a healed .22 bullet the right diameter? Making a tool for the crimp might not be so hard. I don't think fired LR cases would need to be resized but the crimp might need to be removed. I wonder if a ultrasonic cleaner would clean the residue out of the rim of fired brass?

I am temped to give repriming .22 Mag brass a try as I have bullets that would work in that brass. I guess that alcohol is the right solvent for priming compound if I take the compound out of regular primers.

Tim

[xacex]

.22 mag it might be worthwhile. I could see using primer compound out of a LPM primer, and if there was a mold that could be had that cast like 10 boolits at a time. You could powder coat the boolits so they do not need any lube and load with something like lil gun or H110. You can have the black I won't use it. For .22 LR I like subsonic rounds so it would be fun to play with if I could get it to function a semi auto. Imagine doing something like the SSS with a mihec 69 grain boolit in a .22 short case. I like the idea, and it has been talked about on this board (probably where the information to do this was garnered), but the kit I am not so fond of. Cool for a stocking stuffer for the guy who has it all though.

If it were me I would wet tumble the .22 brass to get the compound out.

[leftiye]

If you can make or find a set of dies (I'd expect something a little unconventional), you wouldn't need most of that kit. Use a 225107 boolit, if match heads work, then you're home. I'd be curious about taking out the crushed rim from the firing pin strike. Look at the sticky on making primer compounds.

[flyingmonkey35]

Update.

The now have free shipping.

I asked about a ultrasonic cleaner.
They said that would work better then hand cleaning it as long as the cases are bone dry.

I'll be ordering the kit with next paycheck.

I'll report on it.

[Ed Barrett]

Update.

The now have free shipping.

I asked about a ultrasonic cleaner.
They said that would work better then hand cleaning it as long as the cases are bone dry.

I'll be ordering the kit with next paycheck.

I'll report on it.

Write the review for all us cheapskates.

[flyingmonkey35]

Talked to the wife. And ordered it.

Keep y'all posted.

[perotter]

The last one that Marshall did was one of the methods that Eley patented for a non-corrosive .22 RF primer. It isn't an explosive until after it is in the case, been received a drop of with water and dries out. Eley used about 20% frictionizer in it's patented mix. See the following for more info.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?182089-can-you-make-priming-compound

Also, the above sticky will have other corrosive mixes in it that will work in a rimfire.

[perotter]

If you can make or find a set of dies (I'd expect something a little unconventional), you wouldn't need most of that kit. Use a 225107 boolit, if match heads work, then you're home. I'd be curious about taking out the crushed rim from the firing pin strike. Look at the sticky on making primer compounds.

The proper way to remove the firing pin strike is to derim them like when using a .22 RF case to make a .223 jacket for swaging. Then rehead them to provide the rim and area for priming compound - just like the factory did when they first made the case. See G. Frost's book 'Ammunition Making' for the details on how to head the case.

PS. I didn't see that you posted to see the priming compound sticky and I posted a link to it.

[Blacksmith]

Just remember if you use match heads, toy caps, Black Powder and the like be certain to immediately clean your gun the same as if you were shooting corrosive ammunition.

[powderburnerr]

I didnt see that it had a bullet mould either,,,

[220]

Ive done it with what I have in the shed when I wanted some 22lr BP loads.
Didn't bother with priming just pulled the projectiles from some cheap 22lr to get primed cases.
Gently flared the case with a VLD J word, filled with BP and used a 22 cal GC boolit, the GC heal is just about the right size to heel crimp.
Ran them into a .225 size die to iron out the flare and crimp.
Not great results, but about 80% went bang first strike and groups around 1" at 25y.

[flyingmonkey35]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/23/996ce5a00e8cbbb7fb0aabfe582acf92.jpg

This s just came in the mail today.

Still missing the case sizing die.

Will cast /load a few .

Let me know if you want details.

[flyingmonkey35]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/23/025fe3b10c5a3a6c81c61596e28b6775.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/23/27777016d1499ecf7d7f8f115f8a3c0c.jpg

[flyingmonkey35]

Already see a issue in quality of the mold you can clearly see light when clamped down this should be interesting.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/23/db62cb3aa31b0991a7313f19ca808323.jpg

[high standard 40]

Is the cavity closest to the hinge meant to be the sizer?

[flyingmonkey35]

Is the cavity closest to the hinge meant to be the sizer?
No crimp

[flyingmonkey35]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/23/9b9fa9e3eec36ff7aa0b5d227df7d50e.jpg

[flyingmonkey35]

Need to make a Handel it got way to hot to Handel.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/23/67e2384ef0049462bff2df81d2c9456e.jpg

[xacex]

:( To bad about the mold. Lots of flashing from the gap. I would not be happy with that. Load up some of the good ones, and see how the rest works. More pic's!

[Baja_Traveler]

Man, what a crappy .22 mold....

Here is an example of a proper mold for the job:

140320

[flyingmonkey35]

Man, what a crappy .22 mold....

Here is an example of a proper mold for the job:

140320
Now that is a real mold.

FYI I emaild 22lr reloader and they want to replace the mold.

If I was to do this as a solution this kit is not the way to go.

If your looking for a emergency bug out / survalist aspect. For a 22 way. That's what this kit is for.

I will load a few of the good ones and post.

Updates to come.

[Gelandangan]

So what is the primer used?