Good Hunting Bullet For The 45 ACP, 45 Super and 460 Rowland?

[huntersdog]

Anyone hunt medium or biggame with their, 460 Rowland, 45 ACP or 45 Super? What is your favorite hunting bullet you use?


Thank you

[reed1911]

240g Sierra

[Groo]

Groo here
Up in Canada the 45-08 is used with a 200gr swc.
I would say , any boolet with a fair flat nose that feeds well will work [ depending on the target ]
I would prefer a weight that you can get 1000fps from YOUR gun.

[bhn22]

230 gr LBT LFN. Or I would if it were legal to hunt medium game with 45 ACP [smilie=1: here.

[Dale53]

Ohio allows .45 ACP if the barrel length is 5" or more. The Lyman 454424 250 gr Keith is the bullet of choice in the .45 ACP/.45 Auto Rim revolvers. My 5" 625-6 Model of 1989 chronographs at 900+ fps with this bullet ahead of 7.0 grs. of Unique. That should do the job...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg.html)

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg.html)

However, I would NOT be comfortable shooting those heavy bullets in my 1911's. I must confess that I have done so but do NOT consider that a recommendation...

FWIW
Dale53

[huntersdog]

I have used the 200gr SWC on rabbits, as it is a very accurate bullet and a 260gr Speer HP. Would like to try cast on a 45 Bullet on deer.

[BD]

I've been using this design for some time now with good results.


137001

[bhn22]

I just asked NOE to consider offering a version of Lymans 452190 RFN 45 Colt bullet with a hollowpoint option. This bullet would be great in 45 ACP if we could get the weight down to around 240-245 gr, with a generous hollowpoint for low velocity use.

[GoodOlBoy]

Shot a doe with a regular old 230gr RN Lead out of a 1911A1 in 45 ACP one time. She dropped in her tracks.

GoodOlBoy

[Ruger45Bisley]

For JHP I like the 250gr XTP, it runs around 1200-1300 from my 5" G21 using .45 Super. For hardcast, Hunters Supply makes a 275gr hardcast that works great, run those to around 1200 fps or the 255gr WFN from Beartooth is a good choice as well.

http://i.imgur.com/5Z2WcwK.jpg

275gr .45 Super
http://i.imgur.com/iOwahBa.jpg

[45r]

I've been using this design for some time now with good results.


137001

I got a mold from Accurate Molds that is close to this design and it cast a very good boolit.
It is # 45-220E and it feeds better than any bullet I've shot out of my 4.25 inch 45acp.
Very accurate also.1 and a half inch at 25 yards.
The met-plat is smaller but I use my forster HP'er to make hunting boolits.

[xman777]

Ohio allows .45 ACP if the barrel length is 5" or more. The Lyman 454424 250 gr Keith is the bullet of choice in the .45 ACP/.45 Auto Rim revolvers. My 5" 625-6 Model of 1989 chronographs at 900+ fps with this bullet ahead of 7.0 grs. of Unique. That should do the job...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg.html)

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg.html)

However, I would NOT be comfortable shooting those heavy bullets in my 1911's. I must confess that I have done so but do NOT consider that a recommendation...

FWIW
Dale53
These are some of the most beautiful boolits I've seen. Excellent craftsmanship.

[huntersdog]

I've been using this design for some time now with good results.


137001

That looks like a nice bullet with a nice MP.

[white eagle]

not trying to hijack but OH MY Dale those are some sexy boolits

[Superxmarine76]

Ohio allows .45 ACP if the barrel length is 5" or more. The Lyman 454424 250 gr Keith is the bullet of choice in the .45 ACP/.45 Auto Rim revolvers. My 5" 625-6 Model of 1989 chronographs at 900+ fps with this bullet ahead of 7.0 grs. of Unique. That should do the job...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg.html)

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg.html)

However, I would NOT be comfortable shooting those heavy bullets in my 1911's. I must confess that I have done so but do NOT consider that a recommendation...

FWIW
Dale53
Dale I have been playing with my Springfield Range officer, converted to 45 super, but I loaded some cast 252.1 grain flat nose bullets with 6.5 grains of power pistol 934 Fps and bullet has a meplat of 325.5 now those are not hitting the 45 super marks I know but how well do you think those will fair on our deer here in Ohio?

[Dale53]

Superxmarine76;
Considering that the blackpowder .45 Colt would shoot through a horse at 100 yards, then I would suggest that your flat nose bullet, better shaped than the original .45 Colt, at similar speeds would do a fine job on deer at reasonable ranges.

Thanks to all for the kind words.
FWIW,
Dale53

[Outpost75]

For REVOLVER use, NOT for M1911, I have had great success with these Accurate bullets in the .455 Webley, .45 Auto Rim and .45 Colt in the S&W Hand Ejector, Webley MkVI and Colt New Service:

217426 217427217428

I load 3.5 grains of Bullseye in the .455 Webley, 4.0 grains in the Auto Rim, 6 grains in the .45 Colt New Service and 7 grains in the Ruger Vaquero.

[Thor's Daddy]

Another vote for the LBT 230gr LFN. You can pretty easily run these from 950-1000fps in the ACP with standard +P loadings. Plenty of punch for deer-size game. You can get them from MBW here: https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/45-acp-lbt-230gr-lfn-pb/

And of course, you can get a mold straight from Veral.

[Ramjet-SS]

Dale I agree with others here that is just really nice looking bullet and revolver. Plenty for deer within the limits of the cartridge and shooter. Nice setup ......

[Superxmarine76]

This is the current bullet I am using217456

[Dale53]

Superx;
That ought to work...
Dale53

[Drm50]

I usually deer hunt with 44 mg, but last few years have used a m25-5 S&W with 242 gr cast WC
at 800fps. I killed one with this combo at about 30yds, it flopped around a little but went nowhere.
I have a 6" & 83/8" the long one I shoot RCBS RNFP/ 250 at same velocity and it is a accurate load. I have a 25-2, 45acp that I'm still playing with to select a bullet, I'm using 45AR brass but
have been more concerned with a target load than hunting load. The only deer I killed with ACP
was with a Gold Cup and Win HP factories. I have been wondering about a full WC of about 200gr
for my 25-2. I'm a firm believer in WCs ability to kill deer. That bullet punches a hole that drops
there oil pressure fast. I don't recommend them for deer over 50yds,

[9.3X62AL]

I have long had a fondness for the "BD-45" bullet design in the 45 ACP. I have not hunted large game with the 45 ACP, but if I do it will be with some of the 2# coffee can I still have filled with those castings I made with a borrowed mould at least a decade ago. I took out a feral (and possibly rabid) dog in the desert near Ridgecrest a few years ago. He was about 35 yards off, and a BD-45 went right where the sights were placed as the dog faced me, about an inch under its chin. BANG/flop, a couple tremors, and lights out. The bullet did not exit, and the carcass was WAY too infested with all manner of vermin for me to try a necropsy.

One of the first surprises I got when I bought my first Lyman #454424 Keith mould was how short and squatty the bullet looks when contrasted with its printed catalog illustrations. These weigh 251 grains put up in 92/6/2 alloy. Just a random observation with no real meaning other than its stated content. Having a 10mm on hand and beaucoup magnum revolvers in the safe, I don't see a need to add on a 45 Super or 460 Rowland. More power (and enjoyment) to those who choose to do so, though.

[Earlwb]

Those are all good choices. I was thinking along the line of a semi-wadcutter bullet like they use for target shooting. Some of the 1911's don't have a problem with it. One could get their 1911 setup for them if they don't like them. For faster velocities maybe a harder lead alloy casting. If in a revolver, then the wide meplat straight cylinder shape bullets would be the ones to use. There is some wide meplat bullets made that were likely made for .45 ACP revolvers, but the bullets may work in a 1911 if setup for the semi-wadcutters.

Here is a example of a wide Meplat bullet that would work with 1911's that can shoot the semi-wadcutter bullets OK.



they were discussing it in this thread here:
http://www.paragonpride.com/forum/threads/45acp-255-gr-fp-hardcast-bullet.1398/

[derek45]

230gr speer JHP 45SUPER handloads work great on big midwestern deer from a 5” 625

never shoulda sold that gun

moonclips are easy to load in the pre-dawn deerstand

[RJM52]

Ohio allows .45 ACP if the barrel length is 5" or more. The Lyman 454424 250 gr Keith is the bullet of choice in the .45 ACP/.45 Auto Rim revolvers. My 5" 625-6 Model of 1989 chronographs at 900+ fps with this bullet ahead of 7.0 grs. of Unique. That should do the job...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720-1.jpg.html)

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Dale53/media/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3336.jpg.html)

However, I would NOT be comfortable shooting those heavy bullets in my 1911's. I must confess that I have done so but do NOT consider that a recommendation...

FWIW
Dale53

I'm casting the same bullet that are dropping at 245 grains. Just did some test loads in a Kimber Stainless Target II using Starline .45 Super brass, CCI LP Primers and Longshot Powder. The only modifications to the Kimber were a flat bottom firing pin stop and a 24# recoil spring...


7.0 958 fps 21 fps ES

7.5 1017 fps 34 fps ES

8.0 1056 fps 33 fps ES

8.5 1107 fps 32 fps ES

9.0 1146 fps 38 fps ES (4 were only 10 fps ES)

9.5 1178 fps 11 fps ES

Five rounds of each load. Zero malfunctions. Brass landed 16-18' from the firing point. Primers were not flattened at all but the area around the firing pin strike was dimpled. I am going to replace the firing pin spring with a heavier one and see if it makes a difference.

Competition Electronics chronograph. Distance was 8'.


Fired 10 rounds into a paper plate at 15 yards...made about a 3" group with the 9.5 grain load.

Bob

[Wayne Dobbs]

I've killed over 20 whitetails with a 4" S&W Model 625 Mountain Gun (pre-lock) in .45 ACP. About half have been with Federal 230 HST JHP +P loads and the other half with a 255 Keith over 6.5 Unique in Starline AR brass. All were taken under 25 yards from bow blinds, all were one shot and all had a dead deer in under 25 yards.

[Tatume]

I like the Hornady 200 grain XTP.