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lbaize3
03-30-2015, 03:29 PM
Ruger has just announced a new SP101 in 327 mag. It is a 4.2 inch and looks great. I know they had had problems with the 327 in earlier SP101 revolvers. I figure they have it fixed now. I called my local gun dealer and put in an order for the first one he can get....

dilly
03-30-2015, 04:02 PM
I would like to read more about the aforementioned problems. Does anyone have a link to any information about it?

Jeff Michel
03-30-2015, 04:12 PM
It's on the Ruger websight. And a bit of a description here. http://www.guns.com/2015/03/30/ruger-brings-back-the-sp101-in-327-mag/

CHeatermk3
03-30-2015, 04:20 PM
Bud's has two .327 federal models in stock--"single sevens" in different Bbl lengths.

I handled one at a gunshow and they're sweet.

Mgderf
03-30-2015, 04:23 PM
I have the Taurus 3272SS 6-shot .327Fed/mag and I absolutely love that pistol.
I'm glad Ruger has introduced this, but mainly because I want to see the .327fed/mag continue.
Most every other maker, including Taurus, has discontinued this caliber.

I just wish someone would produce it in a lever action carbine.

rintinglen
03-30-2015, 04:41 PM
I think I want one of these! I have 2 Single Sevens which I greatly enjoy, but this is the kind of gun that the 327 was made for. A nice mid-weight, kit-gun pf adequate barrel length that you can take afield with burdening yourself, this seems like the perfect vehicle for this cartridge.

Hickory
03-30-2015, 04:45 PM
I would like to read more about the aforementioned problems. Does anyone have a link to any information about it?
I'd like to know also what the issues were too.

dragon813gt
03-30-2015, 05:20 PM
Damn you enablers. I ordered one today, well backordered it anyway. I have two Single 7s and their shortcoming is the short cylinder. Frame size is perfect but you're limited w/ the longer heavyweight bullets. Now Marlin needs to get their act together and turn out an 1894 action chambered in 327 Federal :)

Jeff Michel
03-30-2015, 05:43 PM
I imagine the LGS will be seeing me tomorrow. Now if Ruger would make a 77/327.......................................

Fergie
03-30-2015, 06:14 PM
Well, that just put my .45 Colt plan on hold.

Talked with my LGS and he is putting in a request for one shortly.

I'll be darned, Ruger paid attention and in a short amount of time too!

This makes all that .32 reloading I just finished that much better.

Gus Youmans
03-30-2015, 06:30 PM
Dilly,

I have also heard of problems with the .327 SP101 but have not experienced any problems with mine. However, I have probably shot less than 500 rounds of factory ammo and full power handloads, preferring to use .32 S&W long for most of my shooting.

Gus Youmans

Fergie
03-30-2015, 06:47 PM
Now Marlin needs to get their act together and turn out an 1894 action chambered in 327 Federal :)

Yes, yes and yes. Or even Rossi for that matter....something in a rifle chambered in 327 FM...anything!

dragon813gt
03-30-2015, 07:35 PM
Yes, yes and yes. Or even Rossi for that matter....something in a rifle chambered in 327 FM...anything!

I've been trolling for an 1894 in 32 H&R just to kill it's value and have it converted. Unfortunately they are rare and prices reflect this :(

Fergie
03-30-2015, 07:58 PM
I've been trolling for an 1894 in 32 H&R just to kill it's value and have it converted. Unfortunately they are rare and prices reflect this :(

You and me both then. I found one online via Cabela's, and called that day only to be told that it had sold a few days prior and the website wasn't updated.

I've also looked at the roof rifle option after seeing some of the beautiful pieces here, but don't have time for the project.

Cest la vie....and patience.

ejcrist
03-30-2015, 09:42 PM
Damn you enablers. I ordered one today, well backordered it anyway. I have two Single 7s and their shortcoming is the short cylinder. Frame size is perfect but you're limited w/ the longer heavyweight bullets. Now Marlin needs to get their act together and turn out an 1894 action chambered in 327 Federal :)

Agree on both points. I still haven't gotten a Single Seven yet because of the short cylinder but I noticed the fellow at Accurate molds has two 100 grain designs, one SWC and the other a TC, specifically to fit the Single Seven. That'll work for me but I wish that cylinder was just a wee bit longer.

dilly
03-31-2015, 09:25 AM
Do you guys think the SP101 327 kit gun will have the overly short cylinder?

How was the cylinder on the previous SP101 in 327FM?

dragon813gt
03-31-2015, 09:56 AM
It will have a regular length cylinder. Technically the Single 7 has a regular length cylinder. It's just regular length for that frame which makes it a little short for the 327.

dilly
03-31-2015, 12:34 PM
This gun interests me a lot. I had the 357 kit gun but wound up trading it (greatly to my advantage). Anyway I already have a custom holster for it... so I may as well buy the gun, and the shell plate, and a mold or two, and the dies, and some extra LNL bushings, and a batch of brass.

Would anyone be interested in a similar firearm but made from a LCR (the stronger ones like the 357 magnums and 9mm frame)? The LCR-X in 38 special is kind of neat but I don't really have any interest in 38 specials while I have so many 357's. I wonder how much lighter they could make it than this SP101?

Maybe an LCR-X in 327FM...

lefty o
03-31-2015, 05:02 PM
the sp101 cylinder is plenty long for the .327 .

A pause for the COZ
03-31-2015, 05:15 PM
Love my Taurus M327 for carry and I really love my Single 7 5 inch. But yes the cylinder length issue
does rare its head on occasion.
I have a Accurate molds 5 cavity 100gr mold that works fine.

This GP101 offering may just be the optimum platform for the 327 mag.
As such, I will be ordering one as soon as one shows on Gun Broker or Buds.
Given up on my LGS ever getting in what I want. He had his chance and blew it with the Single7.
So he will get a transfer fee.

dragon813gt
03-31-2015, 05:19 PM
I'm in the same boat w/ my dealer. Still waiting on a rifle. I have faith because no one is selling them. But w/ a backorder before they are released I'm hoping he actually gets them. If not I will cancel and neither of is are out any money.

Since no one has posted a pic of it yet ;)
http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/images/5773.jpg

Fergie
03-31-2015, 05:31 PM
My LGS that I deal with for Ruger products has been great. Got me the Solo Siete when they were produced, without issue, and after he and I talked yesterday, he was on the horn with Ruger to find out the details.

Per him, the initial production run is going to be 300 and they should be available soon.

Jeff Michel
03-31-2015, 05:41 PM
Accu-sport salesman was at the LGS today. Placed an order for one along with another customer. He said that the response has been pretty impressive. He said they could start showing up with in a month.

Gus Youmans
03-31-2015, 06:46 PM
I went by my local gun store this afternoon and put one on order. The guy at the gun store thinks the street price is going to be in the neighborhood of $560.00 to $590.00.

I also emailed the Ruger CEO and told him that I would like for them to offer a replacement for the florescent front sight. As an old bullseye shooter, all I want is a clean, plain black, front sight because the florescent dot seems to pull my eye away from the top edge of the sight and makes my groups open up. I thought it was the gun and/or ammo until I clamped it in the Ransom rest and had to admit that the only problem was the loose nut behind the gun.

Gus Youmans

Jeff Michel
03-31-2015, 07:01 PM
Let us know what you find out regarding a replacement front sight, I have the exact same problem.

Green Frog
03-31-2015, 10:26 PM
HERE WE GO AGAIN!! Every time it looks like we are over "this 32 nonsense," Ruger or S&W teases us with another release of a few examples of yet another new model that is here and gone before we know it. I got lucky and got one of the 8 shot Blackhawk version right on the tail end of their production. I'm still frustrated at the prospect of trying to find a Smith Model 631 (just a plain one with 3 or 4 inch barrel and adjustable sights, is that too much to ask for?) Maybe with the established demand that the Single Seven has generated and the buzz over this new release of the GP101, just maybe the 327 FM will take its rightful place in the pantheon of production revolvers. Of course I ended up getting tired of waiting for the 327 of my dreams and had a custom S&W built, but most of you have already heard that story, so I won't repeat it here. :coffeecom

Regards,
FRoggie

dilly
04-01-2015, 11:18 AM
Are the front sights not a standard, easily replaced piece?

dragon813gt
04-01-2015, 12:22 PM
The adjustable sights appear to be dovetailed. The fixed sights are pinned. I'd imagine that finding the correct height new front sight would be an easy task.

TheGrimReaper
04-01-2015, 12:36 PM
This is awsome news!!! I can't wait either.

OuchHot!
04-01-2015, 02:48 PM
I just went through a seemingly interminable wait for a single seven, and they pull this stunt! Geeze!

Jeff Michel
04-01-2015, 03:23 PM
The new version of the SP 101, at least the .22 I have and the picture of the .327 offering is a dovetail front sight. I'm sure Williams makes something that will work height wise. If Ruger offers one, the dimensions would be likely to match the integral ramp. If my memory is correct, the original 101 did have a pin/slot arrangement for the front sight.


The adjustable sights appear to be dovetailed. The fixed sights are pinned. I'd imagine that finding the correct height new front sight would be an easy task.

Gus Youmans
04-01-2015, 04:37 PM
The front sights on the newer, fully adjustable sight SP101s are dovetailed into a ramp on the barrel. The front sights on the older guns that hand only windage adjustable rear sights are pinned in.

I went to the Williams website and they do not list any replacement sights for pistols other than their version of a florescent sight, and there are no listings for the SP101. I do not know if any of the standard dovetail replacements sights intended for 1911s or other pistols would fit.

Gus Youmans

Alferd Packer
04-01-2015, 07:24 PM
I have been considering ordering a single action RUGER .30 cal carbine and getting the cylinders reamed for .327 or getting .30 cal carbine pistol (RUGER) and trying to order an extra cylinder made in .327 by a gunsmith.
Any one considered this?
Any thoughts?

dragon813gt
04-01-2015, 07:27 PM
Just buy a Single 7. Frame size is perfect for handling the 327.

chsparkman
04-01-2015, 08:26 PM
Agree on both points. I still haven't gotten a Single Seven yet because of the short cylinder but I noticed the fellow at Accurate molds has two 100 grain designs, one SWC and the other a TC, specifically to fit the Single Seven. That'll work for me but I wish that cylinder was just a wee bit longer.

I just took my Single Seven to the range on Monday to shoot it for the first time. I had loaded some test rounds using NOE's 115 grain 314316 GC. The crimp groove is just right for the length of the Single Seven's short cylinder. I loaded rounds with AA9 from 8 to 12 grains. This is a surprisingly powerful round for the little Ruger. I settled on 10 grains for now, and subsequently loaded up 100 rounds for the next outing.

I haven't had the loading problems that some have experienced, nor has the base pin jumped on me. Hopefully it will stay that way.

Green Frog
04-01-2015, 08:56 PM
I have been considering ordering a single action RUGER .30 cal carbine and getting the cylinders reamed for .327 or getting .30 cal carbine pistol (RUGER) and trying to order an extra cylinder made in .327 by a gunsmith.
Any one considered this?
Any thoughts?

Yes, it's probably been done... but you can't ream the chambers to make them smaller. IIRC, Hamilton Bowen makes a blank cylinder for it though, so you could have one of those reamed to 327 FM and live happily ever after. ;)

Froggie

Green Frog
04-01-2015, 08:59 PM
I just took my Single Seven to the range on Monday to shoot it for the first time. I had loaded some test rounds using NOE's 115 grain 314316 GC. The crimp groove is just right for the length of the Single Seven's short cylinder. I loaded rounds with AA9 from 8 to 12 grains. This is a surprisingly powerful round for the little Ruger. I settled on 10 grains for now, and subsequently loaded up 100 rounds for the next outing.

I haven't had the loading problems that some have experienced, nor has the base pin jumped on me. Hopefully it will stay that way.

The same is true of the K-frame length of cylinder... my custom 616 seems to really enjoy that same NOE bullet, but it drops out of my mould at 125 grains, using COWWs with a couple of % tin added. It couldn't be much longer though, if it is to continue to go in my "Model 616." I think the Blackhawk cylinder is a bit longer.

Froggie

Jeff Michel
04-02-2015, 08:53 AM
Looks like the wait will be of short duration, there are three on GB currently.

lbaize3
04-02-2015, 04:59 PM
I just got mine in. Wow, four days from finding out about it and I have mine in hand! I am impressed. It will need a trigger job (springs on the way) and the Hogue monogrip (will be here Monday). I will have to crimp the pin holding the adjustable sights in the frame as it is sliding out. No big problem there. Can't wait to get it out to the range and shoot some...

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Rhou45
04-02-2015, 05:21 PM
Ibaize3, That's purdy! I'm liking the looks of this revolver. Curious how it will look wearing the Hogue's.

dragon813gt
04-02-2015, 05:22 PM
This is making me think I should just cancel the order and buy off Gunbroker. I have a feeling he won't be able to get one for me.

dilly
04-03-2015, 11:33 AM
Suddenly they are all over gunbroker. That happened FAST!

Mgderf
04-03-2015, 02:37 PM
Just shot some of my first .327 test loads this morning while on a rural job-site. Did I tell you I like my job?
Anyway, last night I loaded up my first .327fed/mag rounds.
I set a 93gr powder-coated cast boolit over 7.5grs of Blue Dot.

Snappy and LOUD little boogers, but seemed to hit a little low of point of aim at 15 yards from a 2" barrel.

Love the caliber. Still waiting for the carbine...

dragon813gt
04-03-2015, 03:52 PM
Just bought one off Gunbroker. I'm not taking any risks. Of course my dealer is traveling due to the holiday so he doesn't have internet access. Who knows, I may end up w/ two of them :laugh:

Green Frog
04-03-2015, 09:39 PM
Just shot some of my first .327 test loads this morning while on a rural job-site. Did I tell you I like my job?
Anyway, last night I loaded up my first .327fed/mag rounds.
I set a 93gr powder-coated cast boolit over 7.5grs of Blue Dot.



Snappy and LOUD little boogers, but seemed to hit a little low of point of aim at 15 yards from a 2" barrel.

Love the caliber. Still waiting for the carbine...

If there ever was a caliber that screamed out for Ruger to reintroduce the #3 Carbine, it's the 327 FM! Let your imagination run wild. :Bright idea:

Froggie

A pause for the COZ
04-03-2015, 10:02 PM
I have a bid in on one on GB.
Will see though. I am NOT going to just jump like I did with the single 7 now you can get them for $80 less.

$600+ is not gona happen for me. Mid 5's yea ok.

like it all
04-03-2015, 11:40 PM
If there ever was a caliber that screamed out for Ruger to reintroduce the #3 Carbine, it's the 327 FM! Let your imagination run wild. :Bright idea:

Froggie
Amen brother, the old #3 would be a fine companion for my Single sevens.

Fergie
04-09-2015, 02:57 PM
Any word on how the new .327 is from the folks that have one?

Bongo
04-09-2015, 07:02 PM
I currently own a 32 S&W Long in a J-frame model 31. I love the 115 grain 311008 boolit in that cartridge. With you guys talking about length issues I was wondering, will the 3118 / 311008 loaded in the 327 Federal still fit in the "short" cylinder of the new Ruger single 7 and sp101? These new Ruger revolvers has my mouth watern' sumtn' fierce!
Thanks.....Bongo.....

dragon813gt
04-09-2015, 07:11 PM
Longest I can load in a Single 7 is 1.510. I haven't loaded up any of the 311008s I cast yet. But the 32-115 SWC that NOE sells is to long to crimp in the crimp groove.

You will have no such issues w/ the SP101. I need to order some molds from Accurate as he makes shortened versions intended for use in the Single 7.

RJM52
04-10-2015, 06:36 AM
Amen brother, the old #3 would be a fine companion for my Single sevens.

I bought a #3 .22 Hornet a couple of years ago with the intention of converting it to .41 Mag. or .414SM...now I am thinking .327...

For a cast boolit...try the Accurate 31-120S...I have been running them out of a FA 97 and they are excellent. Has a short nose for the SP101...had it in 10 days...

Bob

Jeff Michel
04-10-2015, 06:08 PM
Picked mine up today. Didn't shoot it much (20 rounds) at 15 yards. 31108 with 4 grains of Herco. I had them clumping around three inches with no sight adjustment. To darn windy to do much today. It worked just fine, extraction was positive, double action was a bit heavy but smooth. Looks like a keeper.

rintinglen
04-10-2015, 10:51 PM
I currently own a 32 S&W Long in a J-frame model 31. I love the 115 grain 311008 boolit in that cartridge. With you guys talking about length issues I was wondering, will the 3118 / 311008 loaded in the 327 Federal still fit in the "short" cylinder of the new Ruger single 7 and sp101? These new Ruger revolvers has my mouth watern' sumtn' fierce!
Thanks.....Bongo.....
Short answer... NO. At least not in the Single 7. The maximum length that will work in the 327 is 1.50 inches. Other cartridges may do well with the 311-008, but it is a might long for the 327 in the single seven.
I am toying with getting one of the Sp101's. I can't truly justify it, but boy do I want one.

jrayborn
04-11-2015, 09:15 AM
The cylinder on the SP101 is quite a bit longer than the single seven so it has more options.

Jeff Michel
04-11-2015, 07:25 PM
Mine measures: Single 7, 1.45. SP 101, 1.585.

Fergie
04-11-2015, 08:57 PM
Short answer... NO. At least not in the Single 7. The maximum length that will work in the 327 is 1.50 inches. Other cartridges may do well with the 311-008, but it is a might long for the 327 in the single seven.
I am toying with getting one of the Sp101's. I can't truly justify it, but boy do I want one.

The max I've been able to go is 1.511", and not a hair more. I like to keep it at 1.510, but with the LRNFP, that leaves no room for deviation.

I'm looking forward to a longer cylinder on the SP so I do not have to worry about it that much.

william iorg
04-18-2015, 07:05 PM
I bought a #3 .22 Hornet a couple of years ago with the intention of converting it to .41 Mag. or .414SM...now I am thinking .327...

Bob

Years ago Ross Seyfried had C Sharps barrel a No 3 to .32 Magnum. His results were so interesting we bought a 24" Contender barrel in .32 Magnum. It is a good small game rifle.

JDBrowning
04-18-2015, 10:36 PM
Received my Ruger .327 SP101 4.2 the 16th. The cylinder is 1.585 long and the 311008 will easily fit with plenty of room to spare. Star Line Brass is now taking back orders for .327 brass with production at the end of May. Price for 500 is $121.50 with $2.90 for insurance,TOTAL $124.40. Fired a few .32 longs and a cylinder full of .327's just to see how it works and it is very pleasant even with the full power ammo. I like it.

Jared
04-26-2015, 06:49 PM
I shoot 311008s in both of my single sevens with excellent accuracy. You just have to crimp them over the shoulder instead of the top lube grove.

three dogs
05-16-2015, 07:48 PM
The Saeco 322 is the right length to crimp in the crimp groove in the Single 7 cylinder, also Lyman 311316 or the Accurate Molds clone if you want a gas check. There are lots of options in the lighter bullet weights.

308w
05-16-2015, 08:06 PM
I too caught the 327 bug, not a gp 100 but a single 7 with 7.5" brl. Been looking at moulds, what is the general consensus on bullets, is a gas check needed with the 327 or not? Has anyone tryed the noe 135 with the nose for the single 7? thanks

rintinglen
05-19-2015, 01:11 AM
Gas checks are not necessary, but I have not had good results with boolits heavier than 105 grains in limited testing. Heaviest boolit I personally have tested is the NOE 311-465, which runs 125+-grns with gas check. It grouped twice as large as did similar loads with 100 grain boolits. Brian Pearce lists a few loads for heavy boolits, but he did not indicate, at least as I recall, which if any, produced accurate results.
When my eyes co-operate, I have been able to shoot several honest 1 inch 5 shot groups at 25 yards with the LBT 32-100 SWC and 11.8 grains of H-110. Most other loads have been slightly larger, with Unique and 2400 also being pretty accurate.
Power Pistol, which Pearce touted, has been a bust for me, with groups much larger than the others in limited testing.

A pause for the COZ
05-19-2015, 01:56 AM
Ohh hey I forgot to post when I got my SP101.
Love it, already have 500 rounds through her. No issues at all, well ok maybe a bigger grip would be nice.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_9717_zpsknmuzepf.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_9718_zpswiuazy6u.jpg

Family photo!!!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_9719_zpso1x2852k.jpg

A little long for this holster but I can get by with it in a pinch.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_9720_zps3dfj26sk.jpg

Jeff Michel
05-19-2015, 05:48 AM
I just acquired a 105L mould from Tom at Accurate. It's basically a 313631 in a plain base. It looks like it's going to be a dandy. I've also had pretty good luck with 31108 and Milhec 314-640, in 115 and 100 grain weight. I haven't noticed any difference in accuracy between gas checked and plain based.

WALLNUTT
05-20-2015, 10:34 PM
NOE has some moulds up that look good for the Single Seven. 85gr with short nose. PB or GC

250kt
05-23-2015, 07:02 PM
Try the Accurate 315-130F. I had Tom shorten the nose on a existing design and add weight to base to come out at 130 grains. Its made to fit the single seven, fits the cylinder length perfect as I measured the clearances before ordering. Just the right clearance on length. Wanted to try a heavier weight and it's very hard hitting, and the most accurate bullet I've tried in it. I'd recommend getting it in gas check if you want to push it hard. Which is what the .327 is all about.

308w
05-25-2015, 07:18 AM
250kt thanks for that info, What alloy and load did you use in your pic? Thats a good looking bullet. I ordered the 135s in plain base to start with, I figured I could always get a gas check tool for plain base bullets if i needed it later. I'm not looking for max fps, if I can get 1250 or so with a plainbase bullet and ww's with out leading I'll be happy. But if I do order another mould I'll give the 315-130f a hard look. Thanks......

250kt
05-25-2015, 03:16 PM
That was water quenched wheelweights. LBT lube, 30 cal gatorchecks, sized .313
13.0 W296/H110. Averages 1434 fps. That load is right up at max in my gun. Probably over any book max, if you could find book data on that heavy a bullet. I would start around 9 or 10 and this at your own risk. Shot through water bottles and into snow bank. Every recovered bullet showed that perfect mushroom. Who needs Hollowpoints to expand?!!! Have some more cast up of a commercial lyman2 alloy I need to test. Also, I happen to have the Lyman 85 round nose mold and it is extremely accurate with a small charge of bullseye for target/plinking. Very accurate in my 32 h&rs also. Hope this helps, be safe!

rhouser
05-27-2015, 09:50 AM
I bought the SS Ruger BH 8 shooter to go with my marlin 94 32 HR Mag. Never have gotten around to sending the Marlin out for the 327 face lift. A one of these days project.

My BH liked the 113 gr Cast Performance GC with 12.6 gr of Enforcer. As I recall this chronographed at 1700+. It was also accurate to 50 yards.

rintinglen
05-28-2015, 02:34 PM
That was water quenched wheelweights. LBT lube, 30 cal gatorchecks, sized .313
13.0 W296/H110. Averages 1434 fps. That load is right up at max in my gun. Probably over any book max, if you could find book data on that heavy a bullet. I would start around 9 or 10 and this at your own risk. Shot through water bottles and into snow bank. Every recovered bullet showed that perfect mushroom. Who needs Hollowpoints to expand?!!! Have some more cast up of a commercial lyman2 alloy I need to test. Also, I happen to have the Lyman 85 round nose mold and it is extremely accurate with a small charge of bullseye for target/plinking. Very accurate in my 32 h&rs also. Hope this helps, be safe!

130 grain boolit with a load that is only .2 grains under max for Hogdons load for a 100 grain bullet? Brian Pearce went as high as 13.5 with a Speer 115 JHP, but this boolit is 10+% heavier than that. This load may be at the ragged edge, or maybe past it. I'd truly start a ways back of this powder, somewhere's around 11.2 grains H-110 and work up from there. The only source of data for a boolit this weight that I know of is the Brian Pearce article in the February 2015 Handloader magazine and he only used 3 powders, Longshot, Power Pistol and Accurate No. 9.
On the upside though, so far I have tested loads with power Pistol, Unique, ww-231, 2400, 296 and H-110. The H-110 loads have been the most accurate. If I could lay hands on some, I would dearly love to try some AA No. 9 but that has been hard to find hereabouts for many years, even before stupid people in large numbers proved that 50 million people can be wrong by electing our current president.

250kt
05-28-2015, 10:25 PM
Wow...did you read the whole thing??? I said that load was max in MY gun. And also recommended that anyone should start around 9-10 grains, and that at t heir own risk. Someone asked about the load and I told what it was. Its fine in MY gun. And yes I know what hodgdons max is for a 100 grain...that's for a jacketed bullet. Cast bullets will usually be at a lower pressure at the same powder charge...the handloader article did not even test h110/296. As I said there is no real data for this weight bullet, so I worked to max in my gun, which was actually a little higher.

rhouser
05-29-2015, 03:06 PM
Rintinglen: I had my SS Blackhawk .327 8 shooter with a 5.5" barrel for about 2 weeks before I figured out the undercharging in the 327 mag load books.

Remember that the SP101 is a significantly weaker frame with a shorter cylinder that what came on the BH SS.

My COL length is governed by the length of my cylinder with heavy cast GC's bullets.

I called Ram Shot powder tech line about using enforcer well beyond their published limit due to the very low pressure published with their Max Load for that powder. I was told that the amount of enforcer I could use was only governed by my case capacity and cylinder length in the BH. He further said that the velocity of the load would only be limited by barrel length.

I chronographed 113 gr Cast Performance GC bullets in excess of 1850 FPS using my SS BH, starline brass, ramshot enforcer, and a mag pistol primer.

I backed down to 12.6 grains for best accuracy in my gun.
Just my 2 cents.
rch

dilly
05-29-2015, 03:26 PM
A little long for this holster but I can get by with it in a pinch.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_9720_zps3dfj26sk.jpg

Looks like you're about to wear a hole in your pants.

Simply Rugged will make a Silver Dollar Pancake to fit that one.

250kt
05-30-2015, 11:36 PM
140929Shot black powder in her today. 15.5 goex 3f. Chrono'd it too. Averages 854 fps with the Lyman 85RN. Now she's all cleaned up.

rhouser
05-31-2015, 09:53 AM
250kt, I never even THOUGHT about using a little BP in my BH 327. I am going to have to add that to my list of things to try. rch

Fergie
06-19-2015, 04:34 PM
So, I've been away from town at grad school for the last few months, and while I was in town today, stopped by my favorite LGS. I chatted for a bit with them, and then inquired as to how long it would take to get one of the new SPs in .327FM.

The owner reaches down behind the counter and pulls out a green Ruger case, and says "I ordered this just for you a few weeks back. You're the only avid .32 shooter that comes in here, and I figured you'd be interested in it."

Darn right I was!!!

So now I need to find a range in the same zip code as my grad program and test the sucker out. I've got a ton of .32 loaded for my Solo Siete and .32 H&R, from .32 S&W L to some hot .327FM.

Not a bad stop.

psweigle
06-20-2015, 08:23 AM
I imagine the LGS will be seeing me tomorrow. Now if Ruger would make a 77/327.......................................
Boy do I ever second this!

Green Frog
06-20-2015, 09:56 AM
I'll say again, my SS Blackhawk 8-shooter would really match up nicely to a Ruger #3 carbine, or my "Project 616" S&W with a Marlin 1894 in 327 FM might be nice... in fact, if I could have both rifles to go with the 2 revolvers, I'd be able to "mix and match" and be ready for "all occasions." :guntootsmiley: Of course, I could do as I did on the 616 and custom build the carbine and rifle, but then we'd be talking about a huge investment of time and money, so maybe I'll just sit and dream! :roll:

Regardless of the platform, it is my firm belief that the 327 FM is going to be a fine choice for the hand loader, and especially if you cast your own, will be both economical and flexible. You will be able to duplicate about anything from a 22 LR power up to the equivalent of 32-20 or 38 Spl +P. Like Rock-n-Roll, the 327 FM is here to stay! :bigsmyl2:

Froggie

Rustyleee
06-20-2015, 03:21 PM
I'd be interested in a .327 rifle.

Fergie
06-28-2015, 10:14 PM
Took the new SP out this weekend and was quite pleased. I didn't have much time for anything more than hitting a gong at 25 yards, but no issues right out of the box, so I'm happy.

I do like my DAs better than SAs, so the SS is likely to be cleaned up and put away for a long time. I do like that the cylinder is longer on the SP. I had to be real careful with my 100r RNFP loads on the SS to make sure they weren't too long. Now it is no longer a concern.

A bigger grip is the only thing I'd change, and that is easy. Other than that, a good little shooter that my 6 year old daughter can handle with .32 SWL loads.

Ramjet-SS
06-29-2015, 08:08 AM
I loaded up a Mihec130 grain GC HP over 10.7 grains and Small Rifle Primer from my converted K frame 6" BBL averaged just under 1300 FPS

jrayborn
06-30-2015, 06:32 PM
10.7 grains of what powder?

trapper9260
06-30-2015, 08:35 PM
10.7 grains of what powder?
I also was going to ask that also, you got to it before me .

Ramjet-SS
07-01-2015, 11:10 PM
Oh **** WW296 But same for H110. sorry about that.