Savage Model 219 with extra shotgun barrel

[Hardcast416taylor]

I bought this Model 219 Savage in .30-30 yesterday. It came with an extra barrel in 12 Ga. with an adjustable choke. The gun is in Very Good - Excellent condition with only a few wear marks for a 1950`s made gun. I looked the model up in a used gun book and found no mention of it coming with a shotgun barrel. I`m wondering if Savage offered an extra barrel option for this gun in shotgun gauges?Robert

[Tatume]

I don't know the history of Model 219 rifles, but they are nice and I'd like to own one also. The 30-30 would probably be my choice of calibers too. Congratulations on your new acquisition.

Take care, Tom

[Bob Busetti]

I have seem & shot a 219 Savage that you described. Shot very well, recoil was heavy with 12 ga. duck loads, not to bad with the 30/30. Owner also claimed he had a 22 HP barrel for it but never saw it or seen it listed for the 219. Of course the owner claimed the 22HP dropped deer as if they were struck by lightning. Just repeating what the owner said. No flaming please.

[frkelly74]

It just depends on what part of the eye you hit them in.

[Tatume]

The 22 HP was advertised as a magnificent deer killer when it was introduced. People had different standards then.

[pietro]

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Those Savage 219 single shots were once offered in various rifle chamberings, mated with an additional shotgun barrel (in .410/28/20/16/12 gauges) , and catalogued as (variously) Model(s) 221, 222, 223, 227, 228 & 229.


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[altheating]

I picked a 219 up a couple summers ago at a auction in 22 hornet. It came with a 16ga shotgun barrel. I think I paid $225 for it, sold the barrel for $125. I reamed it or maybe Screwbolts did it (can't remember) out to 22 k hornet. It's a great little beater gun, not that I mistreat any of my guns! I'm sure you will like it In the 30-30.

[Mk42gunner]

I bought this Model 219 Savage in .30-30 yesterday. It came with an extra barrel in 12 Ga. with an adjustable choke. The gun is in Very Good - Excellent condition with only a few wear marks for a 1950`s made gun. I looked the model up in a used gun book and found no mention of it coming with a shotgun barrel. I`m wondering if Savage offered an extra barrel option for this gun in shotgun gauges?Robert

Not that I am aware of; but if they didn't there should be a bunch of barrel less Savage shotguns out there somewhere.

It seems like about a third of the 219's I have seen have a shotgun barrel (and usually a fore end to match) with it. This probably didn't matter so much when you could pick up a used single shot shotgun for anywhere from five to twenty five dollars; but nowadays a beat up single shot will go for around $100 at a farm auction.

Robert

[slumlord44]

Yes they were available. Interesting guns. Had several for a while but down to a .22 Hornet now. I think that there may have been some cataloged calibers. Talked to a guy who claimed to have one in .22 Long Rifle.

[dubber123]

I have a 219 in 30-30 and it is a fantastic shooter after a little tinkering. The bore on mine is large, and really needs a .302"ish nose on any bore rider design. With a proper fitting boolit, it averages about .4" at 50 yds.

[Screwbolts]

Altheating, I would have to say "We" reamed it, your 219.

My son's 219 has also been K'd also, he has used it on woodchucks last summer out to 225 yards with the BRP 47 gr hornet boolit. The same mold that NOE now offers .227-46 I think.

Ken

[richhodg66]

I like my 219 in .22 Hornet very much, in fact, it has been most of my trigger time for a while now. Great rifle and caliber. I got an abused .30-30 one with a ruined barrel I want to have relined to .32 S&W Long. Found a .20 gauge barrel not long ago cheap. Needs some clean up and a new bead, but should make a nice accessory.

[pietro]

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Savage 219 (type) rifle owner's should do some due diligence, BEFORE buying an orphan extra barrel - as it may not necessarily "work" in/on YOUR Savage.

To wit:

Savage 219/220 Barrel Interchangeability

There are different versions of those Savage's, and all barrels are NOT interchangeable with all receivers.

There are Model 219;s, 219B's 219C's & 219L's. The Model 220 has a similar, but non-identical progression of improved models.

The earliest 219's & 220's were striker-fired, and were recocked by the opening action of the top lever, which incidentally released the barrel lock so the barrel could be swung open, and the shell ejector tripped off.

Any early or later 219/219B/219C/219L/220 rifle or shotgun barrel will fit and operate just fine in the early 219/220 guns.




Then, Savage changed the internal design, from a striker to a concealed hammer - which the operation of the top lever no longer was able to recock.

Soooo, on all subsequent models, there is a cocking lever inside the front of the action body, which lies alongside the barrel's locking lug when the gun is closed, or in the firing position.

When the barrel is swung open, the cocking lever/arm is raised, re-cocking the gun (i.e., not cocking by the topside lever opening), via a spring-loaded round stud located in the side of the later model's barrel's locking lug(s).

These guns are the 219B/219C/219L, and later 220's.

The later guns ergo will require a later barrel, WITH the cocking lug - which is absent on earlier barrels.

The early, no-cocking lug barrels will not re-cock the later guns - burdensome, to say the least.




The easiest way to check YOUR gun, is to remove the barrel and peek inside the right side action wall, to see if it has a cocking lever there.

If it has a cocking lever inside the front of the action, the gun needs a barrel with a cocking stud.
If it has none, then the gun can use any barrel.



Within the barrel interchange limits, defined above, any 219 or 220 in good/serviceable condition is safe with any other 219 or 220 barrel in good/serviceable condition.


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[Clark]

Pietro,
I will clipboard your post and put it in my Sav 219/220 draft.
I have lots of 219 and 220 parts, and this may help them.

[richhodg66]

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Savage 219 (type) rifle owner's should do some due diligence, BEFORE buying an orphan extra barrel - as it may not necessarily "work" in/on YOUR Savage.

To wit:

Savage 219/220 Barrel Interchangeability

There are different versions of those Savage's, and all barrels are NOT interchangeable with all receivers.

There are Model 219;s, 219B's 219C's & 219L's. The Model 220 has a similar, but non-identical progression of improved models.

The earliest 219's & 220's were striker-fired, and were recocked by the opening action of the top lever, which incidentally released the barrel lock so the barrel could be swung open, and the shell ejector tripped off.

Any early or later 219/219B/219C/219L/220 rifle or shotgun barrel will fit and operate just fine in the early 219/220 guns.




Then, Savage changed the internal design, from a striker to a concealed hammer - which the operation of the top lever no longer was able to recock.

Soooo, on all subsequent models, there is a cocking lever inside the front of the action body, which lies alongside the barrel's locking lug when the gun is closed, or in the firing position.

When the barrel is swung open, the cocking lever/arm is raised, re-cocking the gun (i.e., not cocking by the topside lever opening), via a spring-loaded round stud located in the side of the later model's barrel's locking lug(s).

These guns are the 219B/219C/219L, and later 220's.

The later guns ergo will require a later barrel, WITH the cocking lug - which is absent on earlier barrels.

The early, no-cocking lug barrels will not re-cock the later guns - burdensome, to say the least.




The easiest way to check YOUR gun, is to remove the barrel and peek inside the right side action wall, to see if it has a cocking lever there.

If it has a cocking lever inside the front of the action, the gun needs a barrel with a cocking stud.
If it has none, then the gun can use any barrel.



Within the barrel interchange limits, defined above, any 219 or 220 in good/serviceable condition is safe with any other 219 or 220 barrel in good/serviceable condition.


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Good information. Thanks for posting.

[pietro]

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You're welcome !

While I learned the hard way (buying a bbl that wouldn't re-cock my action), I hope that others can learn by my mistakes (I've made a LOT of them over the past 50 years I've played with guns :D ).


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