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Billairgun
02-27-2015, 05:13 PM
I had stopped by a local pawn shop a couple weeks ago and saw they had Bullseye, Red dot, and Unique in one pound cans for $31.99 plus tax. I stopped in tonight and there was still 2 Bullseye, 2 Red dot and 4 Unique. So now I'm out almost $35.00 for one pound of powder.[smilie=b:

ejcrist
02-27-2015, 05:31 PM
That's about normal in my neck of the woods. I'd gladly pay that amount for any of the powders I'm short on, especially 2400. I wouldn't feel bad about it.

jmort
02-27-2015, 05:35 PM
That is the going rate, possibly higher, around here. I would not worry about the $$$, focus on the shooting.

Jeff Michel
02-27-2015, 05:36 PM
OUCH! 21.00 here for all Alliant powder regardless of type, all seem to be available in one pound containers, 4 and 8 a bit harder to find. LGS here has had 2400 for several months. Must be getting regular shipments, I've picked up a pound a week for the last six weeks

DougGuy
02-27-2015, 05:38 PM
I picked up two pounds of LilGun ftf from a seller on Gunbroker, he mentioned he had 231, and I sent him right back up the road to get me a can for $35 didn't blink an eye.

wallenba
02-27-2015, 05:58 PM
I can't find anything I need. Last night on Precision Reloadings website I thought I hit the jackpot. They had Winchester AA Super handicap. Put a bunch in my cart.
Sorry... we only have one pound of that item available. Hazmat makes it a no deal.

aarolar
02-27-2015, 06:09 PM
Same at my local guy but he has everything pretty much. I did the math and I'm still coming out on top vs buying ammo.

BruceB
02-27-2015, 06:13 PM
Let's get some perspective.

One pound of Bullseye represents TWO THOUSAND ROUNDS of moderate .45ACP or normal .38 Special loads. TWO THOUSAND!

If we paid ten dollars less for that pound of Bullseye, the difference in cost for each round would amount to a huge, vast, enormous saving of ONE HALF of ONE CENT .

I dunno about the rest of y'all, but even on my pensioner's income, that is a miniscule saving, and it simply wouldn't even appear on my radarscope...... it is a paltry difference in cost. Ten bucks in my pocket is always nice, but come on.....two thousand rounds, after all!

I would be glad I found the powder, and not worry about the measly extra cost.

dragon813gt
02-27-2015, 06:20 PM
It's a little high compared to here but not enough to concern me.

GabbyM
02-27-2015, 06:37 PM
Fact is with the low consumption demands a pistol has. It's hard to mail order and pay haz-mat. That in itself does not make shooting pistol more expensive than rifle. This morning I tossed two empty eight pound jugs of rifle powder in the trash bin. Last week I received two replacement jugs that I'm digging into. All I'm doing is loading up about two years worth of 223. Get about 2,150 rounds per eight pound jug. At 26.0 grain charge. 2,485 with the faster LT-32 powder and 55 grain bullets. My cast bullet 222 Rem load yields 3,730 rounds from eight pounds of LT-32. 4,000 rounds from the 5744 powder loads. Cast Bullets are ten cents per shot less than a cheep J bullet. At 100 yards. As long as we shoot at least ten rounds. Groups look the same between J bullets and cast. One hole inside the inch. Now and then I'll get a flyer with my eyeball sorted cast 22's that will go outside the 2 inch line. If I shoot my 223 bolt action varmint rifle from a bench rest setup with 24X scope I can put ten shots of SMK's inside 3/8".

So you think I'm rambling? No, just saying it's all relative. It also cost 54 cents per mile to drive to the range. Finding bullseye at a competitive price is a score these days. You did not over pay for a single pound or two of powder. Count yourself lucky to have access to it.

I have not back figured price per pound on my last order. 16 pounds plus haz-mat plus shipping. I have Wilgens great program that has price per round calculator in it. I don't even want to know. I drive Amish taxi and can tell you within 2 cents per mile what it cost to run a 17 passenger van. I have to know that in order to be reputable, fair and not loose my tail. I don't shoot to make money.

Another cost consideration. With full power J bullets barrel wear is a very high cost of per round cost. With my 243 Win rifles bullets about equal cost of barrel wear. With cast at 1,850 fps barrel wear is almost nill and bullet cost for cast is just a couple cents. 11 grains of Unique under an 84 grain cast bullet averages .875" at 100 in a ten mph wind. From a light varmint rifle with Leopold 6.5x20X scope. recoil is nill and muzzle blast does no harm if you have simple ear protection. It's an all day shooter. Full velocity jacketed bullet loads down a 243 Win barrel cost 28 cents per round just for the barrel. At 59 years of age I'll not live long enough to wear out a barrel in 6mm bore with cast boolits. Even with grandkids running them all day long. AKA five bucks is not even tip money.

butch2570
02-27-2015, 07:58 PM
A jug here today was 144.99 plus tax, so was the unique and it's now gone. some aren't running the prices out of sight.

Love Life
02-27-2015, 08:18 PM
I'd rather be at the range complaining that I paid to much for powder than be on the internet complaining that I can't find any powder. I've found good deals for some powders, and I've paid out the wazoo for some powders. There is a whole lot of comfort to a stocked larder that a backorder at an "acceptable" price just can't give you.

osteodoc08
02-27-2015, 08:24 PM
It is what it is. Pay the man and enjoy the process of reloading and shooting.

Billairgun
02-27-2015, 08:27 PM
Since I'm low on small pistol primers I was hoping to combine primers and powder for an internet order (he also has CCI's for 31.99 a brick). If only Wideners had Bullseye I could get 4lbs and a case of s&b primers.

butch2570
02-27-2015, 08:38 PM
I'd rather be at the range complaining that I paid to much for powder than be on the internet complaining that I can't find any powder. I've found good deals for some powders, and I've paid out the wazoo for some powders. There is a whole lot of comfort to a stocked larder that a backorder at an "acceptable" price just can't give you. That's what I was implying . That..... I have also paid a heavy price for a few powders, but you can still find a good deal also, I grabbed the unique.

Bzcraig
02-27-2015, 09:49 PM
When an addict has been without they start to get sick. How long did you stay clean before you gave in?

JohnH
02-27-2015, 10:55 PM
Two weeks ago I bought an 8 ponder of Red Dot. 189.99. Figures out to be around 23.00 a pound. Store had 1 pounders on hand, 28.00. Considering that is the first Alliant powder I've seen on a gun store shelf in a 50 mile radius in over 2 years, I figure I saved 40.00.

osteodoc08
02-27-2015, 11:06 PM
Same price over here in Rome. A stones throw from Mentone. Beautiful area up there.

GhostHawk
02-27-2015, 11:14 PM
Chalk it all up to Inflation, what did powder sell for back in the late 40's? Penny's per pound?

Fact is sometimes it is worth paying some extra dollars just for the satisfaction of knowing if the SHTF I have at least powder and primer to stay alive with for a while.

You went with Bullseye, I chose Red Dot, should have bought a LOT once, ended up buying 3-4 pounds twice and paid hazmat twice. Ok, not the worst 28$ mistake I ever made.

I recently bought 2 pounds of IMR 4227 from Bass Pro (Who seems to still have it and 4 other pistol powders) along with 3k primers, 2k of large rifle and a spare 1k of small pistol.

I have enough to load a LOT for the next 10 years, bought and paid for. If the SHTF money in the bank is going to be worthless, powder and primers in the ammo can will be priceless.

Seems like a good trade. How often can you buy peace of mind for 200$?

captain-03
02-27-2015, 11:59 PM
Got 2 lbs BE from Bass Pro a couple weeks ago - $28 per lb -- did not blink an eye!!

RogerDat
02-28-2015, 02:08 AM
With $28.50 in Hazmat fees 3# of powder @ $20 online cost $30 + shipping, sure did not stop me from jumping all over 3# of Unique. What drives me nuts is two things. Popular or high demand powders (heck any pistol powder) when available online have to be purchased fast and seldom allow for combining several powders to save on hazmat fees. The other is hearing some locations such as N. Ohio which is fairly close have powders we have not seen in Mich. for 2 years. 2400 is sort of like that distant relative you have to look at a picture of to remind yourself what it looks like. Unique the same way.

Would love to be able to just order or better still pick up a couple of pounds each of 2 or 3 different powders, took $60 in hazmat fees just to get a total of 10# of powder because it was impossible to get it all in one shot. It has gotten so bad around here I stopped at a Gander Mtn. on the way home from a funeral in another part of the state on the off chance they might have powder. All I found is that I have more powder and more variety than they do. And that the .223 / 5.56 shelves were empty except for 1000 rnd. bulk packs and those had a "new" price of $500.

novalty
02-28-2015, 08:03 AM
I ordered the max order of BE from an online vendor last fall and kept some and sold the day for $30/#, got complaints that people could get the same price at gun shows--guess they didn't figure in admission. Recently got a larger shipment of Hp-38 and BE where the hazmat could be spreadout. So posted some locally for $25/# and people still complain even though it is non existent locally. One LGS hasn't listed handgun powder for less than $30/#, and another shop had HP-38 last month for $23.99/# which was $25.31 OTD. So hoping people aren't shocked when I won't take $22/# and drive an hour and a half to deliver it.

Like BruceB said the price per round is so minuscule. I guess it is the nature of us reloaders, always trying to keep cost as low as possible.

JohnH
02-28-2015, 04:57 PM
Same price over here in Rome. A stones throw from Mentone. Beautiful area up there. Prolly got it at the same place you're speaking of, gun shop at the far west end of town, on right headed toward 'Bama...

rbt50
02-28-2015, 06:06 PM
that is what it is going for out here in az. 32.00 to 35.00 a pound.

bangerjim
02-28-2015, 07:56 PM
Remember the standard 1# size bottle of Trailboss only contains 9 oz! Really light fluffy stuff.

banger

shoot-n-lead
02-28-2015, 08:00 PM
That is the going rate for any powder in my neck of the woods...if you can even find it.

DeadWoodDan
02-28-2015, 08:46 PM
just got back from the nearest and only fun show I go to. Payed $26 for, H4895,R15. There was a few other choices wish I had more coin b.c. I found 296, but no RedDot,Bullseye or 2400. Could have bought primers all day long.

Cd662
03-01-2015, 01:48 AM
I think we're all sort of in this boat. I don't really care for Bullseye but I snatched up a pound when I found it. I have a few pounds of 700x and 800x which were never ideal powders for me, but if I put them in a case, a bullet will come out. Good enough. My primer supply is dwindling though...

gloob
05-01-2015, 11:20 PM
I have a few pounds of 700x and 800x which were never ideal powders for me, but if I put them in a case, a bullet will come out. Good enough.
Yup. When the shortage is really affecting me, I'll finally get to use those partial cans I never took a shine to. $35.00 for a lb of 2400, maybe. But for Unique, nope. There are probably 2 dozen different powders I can use in place of my Unique loads.

brassrat
05-01-2015, 11:55 PM
Remember the standard 1# size bottle of Trailboss only contains 9 oz! Really light fluffy stuff.

banger

If I am not mistaken, TB was around $13.99, I just saw some at $20, same place, and not usually a gouger.

Billairgun
05-02-2015, 05:55 PM
I got lucky a couple weeks ago at an auction. I went to look at the M1A rifles that went for to much money(around $2500.00 each) and got an unopened 4lb can of Hercules Red dot and an 8lb tube with about a pound left for $5.00. I also splurged and paid $20.00 for a field box of 30cal 170gr jacketed bullets that must weigh 50lbs.