Ruger AR

[Tackleberry41]

Stopped at the LGS around the corner to pick up my layaway, had a few minutes to wait, looked thru their racks. I know the market right now for AR15s is not that great, way over supplied so the prices are way down and even then difficult to move. They had a Ruger AR-223 in the rack, next to a Bushmaster and DPMS. I was a bit surprised the Ruger was only $629 vs $699 for the DPMS, and closer to $800 for the bush master. I know DPMS is not so well thought of, I dont really like the AR series anyways. But the Ruger did look pretty good, none of the M4 barrel nonsense, and ready to shoot w a flip up sight vs the DPMS and Bushmaster both needed a $50 sight to even be aimed. Told a friend he wants the rifle, but his old lady would just shoot him with it for buying it.

[Love Life]

That Ruger AR looks very nicely appointed. I have been eyeballing their 308 version.

[DougGuy]

I like their .308 version but the same rifle by S&W is a LOT lighter in weight.

[Tackleberry41]

I asked a friend who works in a gunstore, he said that the 308 version is very highly rated. I was just a bit surprised the Ruger was cheaper than a DPMS, the DPMS would have been $750 once you put a flipup on the rear. Ruger even came with a pmag, vs a ruger branded one. Not like I am going to go buy it, never was a fan of the AR series, and already have an HK33 and Australian arms tazmanian devil.

[dkf]

Ruger just recently came out with the AR556 which has a DI gas system. The SR556 is Rugers piston AR and is a lot more money and a lot more weight. For $800 you can get a Spikes 16" midlength which is more rifle than the Ruger, DPMS or Bushmaster.

[dragon813gt]

My question is why pay that much for a basic DI rifle? I don't get hung up on brand names. You're most likely going to change parts out. So why not buy a $450 DelTon. You're ahead of the game a few hundred if you go that route.

[Jupiter7]

My question is why pay that much for a basic DI rifle? I don't get hung up on brand names. You're most likely going to change parts out. So why not buy a $450 DelTon. You're ahead of the game a few hundred if you go that route.

Easy answer for me is usually barrel quality. Most of the low end AR's use 4140 for their barrels. A quality barrel replacement will run you $200+/-. My recent inexpensive builds with quality where needed ran in the $650 range sans sights but with decent ALG triggers. My almost finished new 3gun/precision rifle build ran about $1100.

[BethelHntr]

I'm new with the ar thing but have heard good things about colt's milspec magnetic partical inspection process and how they properly stake areas they don't want to come loose, They seem fair priced for the 6920 at around a thousand IMO.

[dragon813gt]

Never mind.

[Love Life]

The 6920 is a very good Carbine, and IMO worth the money. However, I prefer to buy the el cheapos as they spray 55 gr FMJ into 2 MOA with ease.

If I want precision, then I send a box of parts to my favorite gunsmith.

[UBER7MM]

.... Told a friend he wants the rifle, but his old lady would just shoot him with it for buying it.

Won't be the first time that's happened.....

[376Steyr]

My question is why pay that much for a basic DI rifle? I don't get hung up on brand names. You're most likely going to change parts out. So why not buy a $450 DelTon. You're ahead of the game a few hundred if you go that route.

I think Ruger is going after the folks who want an AR "just in case"; who aren't planning on customizing it; and who know just enough about firearms to recognize the Ruger name and don't want to worry about the quality of a brand they aren't familiar with. Good for Ruger, I hope they sell 10 million of them.

[dragon813gt]

Valid points that I didn't think about. It seems that even the average user wants to modify an AR. It usually means about 30#s of accessories on the rail :laugh:

[Tackleberry41]

I saw a video recently about people going and buying a rifle then replacing half of it, vs just going custom to begin with. Not everybody plans to replace half their rifle, and Ruger does have a good name attached to it. I presume they do actually make them vs farming them out?

And I did like that for once an M4 profile barrel wasn't used. Because so many people are going to be putting a grenade launcher on theirs.

[lefty o]

im not a huge fan of ruger lately, but if you like the basic rifle they offer, then only the horrid trigger needs replacing. they havent yet turned their AR line into MIM and plastic like everything else they make. give em time, but so far the AR is safe to buy.

[762 shooter]

I saw a video recently about people going and buying a rifle then replacing half of it, vs just going custom to begin with. Not everybody plans to replace half their rifle, and Ruger does have a good name attached to it. I presume they do actually make them vs farming them out?

And I did like that for once an M4 profile barrel wasn't used. Because so many people are going to be putting a grenade launcher on theirs.

Made in Mayodan, North Carolina.

762

[DougGuy]

That Ruger AR looks very nicely appointed. I have been eyeballing their 308 version.

Same here, but $2200+ MSRP? 8.9lbs, vs. S&W M&P10 $1600+ MSRP 7.6lbs.

[Tackleberry41]

Dropped in there today to buy some powder, guy was filling out the paperwork on the ruger. Problem that came up was ammo, this M855 ban has everybody cleaning off shelves. They had all of one box of 223 left in the place. M855 isnt even very good ammo, but all of a sudden everybody has to have it, and prices reflect that.

[lefty o]

Same here, but $2200+ MSRP? 8.9lbs, vs. S&W M&P10 $1600+ MSRP 7.6lbs.

my brother has a thing for the ruger piston AR's, recently he added the 7.62 version to his collection, it was barely over $1200. msrp doesnt mean much, just have to price shop, especially with the bottom falling out of the AR market.

[Tackleberry41]

Yea its real hard to demand premium prices when there is a glut of ARs on the market.

[wrench man]

The M855 has disappeared, but there is tons of M193 to be had as well as tons of commercial stuff.
My AR556 really likes the M855, to bad it may be unobtainable in the future?, I haven't shot any M193 out of it yet?

[dkf]

The M855 has disappeared, but there is tons of M193 to be had as well as tons of commercial stuff.
My AR556 really likes the M855, to bad it may be unobtainable in the future?, I haven't shot any M193 out of it yet?

I guess you have not checked local stores and online ammo places within the last day? The shelves are pretty much nothing but dust where .223/5.56 was, the panic is in full swing.

[freebullet]

The ar isn't a tough rifle to get right. I've never had a complaint with a dpms, owned several. I wouldn't have a problem with a ruger or bushmaster either. Most of them would be just fine for the average user. The bull and hbar barrels are a good value.

Be very careful with the 308 ar. If you get 1 @10-12lb with a good scope, trigger, & ammo you won't want to leave the range except to go hunting.

[Combat Diver]

Made in Mayodan, North Carolina.

762

Yep, first firearm made in Ruger's new plant. Colt is selling a model without buttstock or handguards for those that want to save some money before swapping out.

http://www.colt.com/DesktopModules/LiveContent/Handlers/GetImage.ashx?mid=885&eid=7&Type=View&PortalId=0

http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Rifles/LE6920Series.aspx


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[wrench man]

I guess you have not checked local stores and online ammo places within the last day? The shelves are pretty much nothing but dust where .223/5.56 was, the panic is in full swing.
Don't buy on line, Cabelas was low on 223/5.56 yesterday, the LGS had a TON of 223 on the shelf tonight and the BiMart I pass every day had a pile of Federal "AR223" tonight plus some commercial 223, they also told me that they are supposed to get more of the 420rnd ammo cans of M855!?

[Cmm_3940]

Plenty of ammo here.

[Tackleberry41]

I know many have alot of bad things to say about DPMS, the fan boys pounce in other forums when you mention that name. Its not a real AR unless you drop $1500 on it. I have only owned 1 AR, didnt even start out that way, had a lower to go with a 50BMG upper. Sold the upper and figured would make a rifle for the ex, she turned her nose up at it since it wasnt shiny and went on her finger. I have never been a fan of AR, goes back to my days in the marines carrying them.

The DPMS worked fine, except being a slick side and me being a lefty didnt mix. Full length rifle probably wouldn;t be an issue, but the overgased carbines I eat the brass. I put a fixed stock and rifle buffer in it, that got me streaks of oil and carbon on my cheek as the brass barely missed. It worked fine. But happened on a HK33 in the LGS I couldn't turn down, a Turkish one made under license, not one of the century builds. Had to pay for it so sold the AR. It was during the height of the panic, cant believe I got $1200 for a parts gun.