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Ken O
09-29-2005, 10:07 PM
Any suggestions for a lighter (than 405gr) boolit mold? Something to just punch paper with. Is there a boolit that gives good accurcy, I'm thinking no sense thowing all that lead down range. This is for a 1895G with ballard rifleing.

wills
09-29-2005, 10:44 PM
The 330 gould was a highly thought of design as a hunting boolit. Lyman has it

Buckshot
09-30-2005, 12:54 AM
...........My suggestion would be the RCBS 45-300. It does take a GC, but the accuracy I have had with it in 2, 45-70's and a 45-90 makes the additional step and cost of the GC of no matter to me. I have also had some fine shooting from the Lyman 292gr RNPB.

If you have a 45 Colt handgun, that Lyman 292gr sized down does superb work in a Ruger Vaquero, so it will do double duty for ya.

If you do not have a handgun in 45 Colt, here is an excellent reason to get one. This reasoning works for me and I believe several others around here. I HAVE gotten my personal backside in hot water for such things, but it does blow over and life is good. I just pretty much stay in the garage until I'm no longer persona non grata.

................Buckshot

Bullshop
09-30-2005, 01:26 AM
Buckshot
RCBS also makes one that does not take a check, it is the 457/300 FNU. I use both and like both. I use the FNU sized .457 in a Ruger Bis 45 Colt that mikes .456 throats.I have been using an old Ideal hollow base mold. Cast some today in WW at about 170gn and drop at .458" Makes a good light for the sprouts. They like to shoot the big gun if it dont hurt. Good way to ease em into the 45/70.
BIC/BS

Blackwater
09-30-2005, 02:03 AM
I've got the Lee 340 gr. but haven't shot any yet. Planning to use a buddy's super accurate #1 Ruger to test some lubes with it, and some LDPE and fiber wads, just to play with it and the loads some. Wish I could give you more, but that's all for now.

Also have the Lyman/Gould 330 gr. HP mould, but don't think you want to use it for casting volume loads. The HP casting goes kinda' slow. I think I'd try a plain base solid point for a "foolin' around" load. Quicker, cheaper, and with light loads, very pleasant, so you'll shoot more.

wills
09-30-2005, 08:29 AM
If you want to send less lead downrange maybe you have an excuse to get a smaller gun, 38-55 or 32-40.

Maven
09-30-2005, 09:58 AM
The Lee 340gr. bullet over 13gr. Unique will group into 1", i.e., 10 into 1" from my Marlin #336. Unless you can find a better deal on a Gould (Ideal/Lyman) bulet mold or RCBS, I'd go with the Lee, but bre sure you read the section (on this board or on the Castpics site) about "Leementing" just in case.

LAH
09-30-2005, 10:03 AM
I like the 300 Saeco.

9.3X62AL
09-30-2005, 11:43 AM
If you want to send less lead downrange maybe you have an excuse to get a smaller gun, 38-55 or 32-40.

Wills--

I've tried that explanation on SWMBO to justify a couple rifle deals, and it don't fly hereabouts. She did award style points, though.

Overall, my luck has been better with the 400 grain-class boolits in the 45-70, both in the current Ruger #1 and a couple of Marlin lever guns that preceded it. My RCBS 300 grain FNGC is hamstrung by a lack of diameter in the castings/abundance of same in the #1, so it gets used in the Ruger BisHawk x 45 Colt with good accuracy, sized to .454" for its .453" throats/.452" grooves. The castings land on the towel at ~.4575" when cast at 800* from Taracorp alloy, but when poured at 675* I gain almost .0015", making them almost ready for the #1. I didn't fire enough of the 300 grainers from the late Marlin levergun to assess its potential in any depth.

bobthenailer
10-01-2005, 08:01 PM
hi ive had excellent results from my marlin cowboy with the saeco 350 gr gas checks with 21 gr 5744 costiantly puts them in 1/12 to 1/14 at 100 yards with a 2x7 leupold taken a ride