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wquiles
02-23-2015, 08:10 PM
I have seen several custom kake kutters, and many use a 45-70 or similar case as the actual cutter. Great idea, so I decided to try it out.

Started with a scrap piece of Aluminum, which I knurled in my lathe:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150213_111418.jpg

To hold the "kutter" I found a suitable piece in the plumbing section of Home Depot:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150213_113331.jpg


Once I figured out the thread, I cut and threaded the knurled piece of Aluminum:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150213_114956.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150213_115012.jpg


I then drilled and bored the handle and the case. To prevent metal on metal contact between the two aluminum pieces, I added a custom Delrin sleeve (permanently glued in place):
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150220_203157.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150220_203655.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150220_203853.jpg


I molded a piece of black Sugru into the top, to make it more ergonomic. I have not adjusted the brass "kutters" for the right diameters yet, but here is how it looks like at this point:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_110812.jpg



http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_110901.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_111000.jpg

wquiles
02-23-2015, 08:11 PM
I then proceeded to make the custom steel expanders for each caliber (45-70 boolits sized .460" and 44Mag sized .432"). At left is a .461" commercial expander, and at right one of the various prototypes I made:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_114055.jpg


Rince this involved trial/error, I made a few of the expanders since I will eventually made one for my .308 rifle as well:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_130934.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_133429.jpg


One of the areas that needs attention is the tip, where a nice taper will make alignment easier/better:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_134205.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_135743.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_135727.jpg


Then finish each cutter with an internal bevel to prevent shaving the brass:
http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/Lube/CustomKakeKutter/20150221_135602.jpg


Will

RogerDat
02-23-2015, 08:44 PM
A work of art and a joy to behold. Don't suppose you are thinking of selling those beauties in some other calibers? If not it was still neat to see the process and the design.

histed
02-23-2015, 08:50 PM
DANG and WOW!...Just WOW!!!! Here I've just been using a fired case with a nail through the primer pocket to push the boolit out. If you decide to make these to sell to members, let me know. My method works, but, as my students would say, "these are way more cooler"

Bjornb
02-23-2015, 09:55 PM
Very nice work sir. Always a joy to watch the creative process.

wquiles
02-24-2015, 09:39 AM
Thank you guys for your kind words :o

This all looks simple (and it is), but very time consuming: that was two separate 1/2 days of work to make, since mine is a manual lathe. So no plans to make for sale until such a day where I get or upgrade my lathe to CNC.

Ben
02-24-2015, 09:58 AM
William,

You're indeed a very talented fellow.
Great work,

Ben

powderburnerr
02-24-2015, 03:22 PM
thats nice work ,
I always wonder though why everybody puts a pusher in the end to push the bullet out , why not make the top open and push the bullet out with the next one ,

Baja_Traveler
02-25-2015, 04:32 PM
Looks very much like a kake kutter I bought years ago from someone here that was making them. Unfortunately they are no longer around. They had some method of tapering a 45-70 case to just about any dimension...

Char-Gar
02-25-2015, 05:56 PM
Me? I use old Lyman Kake Kutters which can be bought for a few bucks. That is nice work, but way to much time to invest in such a simple device unless a fellow just enjoys doing things the hard way.

wquiles
02-25-2015, 09:21 PM
I pick projects based on enjoyment and what I can learn from them, not only based on time or money spent. Sometimes, I do in fact rather buy something if readily available, and/or close to what I want/need. But as a machinist, being able to make my own tools, to support another hobby/interest is by itself part of what I consider fun and enjoyable, specially if it helps me grow, teaches me something new, etc. [smilie=s:

Old Scribe
02-26-2015, 01:25 AM
Very nice! You have a talent I wish I had to machine items.
My talent lies in a different area so I guess it's a trade off. Some are saddle horses, others pull wagons.

dikman
03-05-2015, 05:47 AM
Nice idea using a brass plumbing fitting to hold the tube onto the handle.:goodpost:

Powderburner, that's exactly what I did with one of mine - just keep feeding them up the tube.

powderburnerr
03-05-2015, 10:34 AM
I am not knocking the posters talent , Like you it just seems easier to me to take it out the top and box it .almost all the designs talked about use a push rod...