name 3 cartridges you wish you had firearms for.

[.30-06 fan]

let me start

22 hornet
458 win mag
375 ruger

[MOcaster]

358 Winchester: I think it's an awesome caliber. That might be my next purchase.
375 H&H: If I have one, it might mean I get to go to Africa.
22 Hornet: They just seem like so much fun!

[.30-06 fan]

358 Winchester: I think it's an awesome caliber. That might be my next purchase.
375 H&H: If I have one, it might mean I get to go to Africa.
22 Hornet: They just seem like so much fun!

i totally see your logic.

awesome.

[OptimusPanda]

how bout these...
8mm Lebel
7.62 Tokarev
10 gauge

[.30-06 fan]

oh man....

10 gauge, good one.

[str8shot426]

9.3x62
35 whelen
45/70 (lever)

[.30-06 fan]

9.3x62 great cartridge! and growing in popularity.

[MaryB]

338 lapua, .308(AR-10 is on my build list), tokarev

[Jevyod]

I would say 358 Winchester, but goodsteel is building me one!!!:bigsmyl2: After that..
204 Ruger
17 Fireball
280 AI

[.30-06 fan]

338 lapua, .308(AR-10 is on my build list), tokarev

CZ has a hunting rifle in 338 lapua. the 338 lapua is more capable than most 375s yet not legal in the dark continent for dangerous game.

[Frank46]

32-40
32-20
8.15x46r
oldies but goodies,Frank

[Nueces]

360 Rook
41 Colt
450/400 Nitro Express

[.30-06 fan]

I would say 358 Winchester, but goodsteel is building me one!!!:bigsmyl2: After that..
204 Ruger
17 Fireball
280 AI

very tempting...

dragster 204 ruger .... lol... cool

[mattw]

45-70 in a Springfield
22 Hornet in a CZ
10mm in a semi-auto carbine

[.30-06 fan]

45-70 in a Springfield
22 Hornet in a CZ
10mm in a semi-auto carbine


in my mind the 10mm replaces the 44 magnum .... controversial .... yep i know.

[M-Tecs]

416 Rigby
416 Rigby
416 Rigby

[tdoyka]

38-55
357 rem maximum
338 federal
all in tc encore and MGM barrels(23-25")

[.30-06 fan]

416 Rigby
416 Rigby
416 Rigby

yep, i totally understand, what an awesome cartridge.

[runfiverun]

32-20
300h&h
414 super-mag.

I I have been chasing these for years, and have come close
on all three at one time or another.

[quilbilly]

40-65
lever action 357 Max
32-20 with a 308 bore

[kenyerian]

500 S&W
357 max
204 ruger

[AkMike]

How about 3 rifles for this cartridge instead? :bigsmyl2:



131438

[.30-06 fan]

How about 3 rifles for this cartridge instead? :bigsmyl2:



131438


ummmm, oh yearrrrr .... yes! ..... whatever it is..... :bigsmyl2:

[perotter]

20x138B - Lathi L-39
20x124 - Type 97
6.5x52

[AkMike]

ummmm, oh yearrrrr .... yes! ..... whatever it is..... :bigsmyl2:


That's what you shoot when you want to put a whole bunch of hurt on both ends.

[cga]

20x138B - Lathi L-39

Lathi, my back hurts just thinking about it.

[texassako]

.25 Hornet
.327 Magnum
.38-55

[.30-06 fan]

That's what you shoot when you want to put a whole bunch of hurt on both ends.


lol'z .... cool

[MaryB]

Savage has one too with good reviews. Semi auto would be nice to help reduce recoil but not many out there unless I spend as much as a new car...


CZ has a hunting rifle in 338 lapua. the 338 lapua is more capable than most 375s yet not legal in the dark continent for dangerous game.

[.30-06 fan]

Savage has one too with good reviews. Semi auto would be nice to help reduce recoil but not many out there unless I spend as much as a new car...

semi auto, let me tink aboot that .... ;)

[MaryB]

Okay what is it? Got me stumped... 700 NE?


How about 3 rifles for this cartridge instead? :bigsmyl2:



131438

[AkMike]

:bigsmyl2: Nope. :bigsmyl2:


edit to add; Let's see what other WAG's come up and I'll tell you the answer tomorrow.

[.30-06 fan]

:bigsmyl2: Nope. :bigsmyl2:



10 gauge slug ?

[badbob454]

30x113mm , 8mm-06 or .416 Barrett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Firearms_Manufacturing) or 10.6×83mm

[TheDoctor]

41 Mag, 25-06, 22 Hornet.

[Whiterabbit]

.510 caliber rimmed cartridge, anything between 500 special and 500 Linebaugh is A-OK. In a custom rust-blue with color case hardened frame old model vaquero.

I occasionally dream of other firearms. But it's always fleeting:
cz527 in 223. So, 223 Remington.
bearcat or other ruger 22 rimfire revolver 6 shooter. So, 22 rimfire.
S&W M&P 38 special snub without exposed hammer. So, 38 special +p.
Long range rifle. too many cool cartridges in that game to pick one. From designed-for-no-recoil to use-a-brake-cause-it's-going-a-mile-and-it's-not-fun-to-shoot. list toppers would be a 243 win or 6.5 barrel-burner, or a ridiculous over-bore 7mm like a 7mm RUM.

Gotta be honest, I basically own every gun that makes me smile (day in and day out) to think about. But I had to post because the one that's left, being a .510 caliber cast boolit handgun shooter is too cool (imo) not to mention.

Already have the mold for it too:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=103168&d=1398407460

450 grains, and the fact that it is an incongruous non-WFN makes it all the more cheeky and clever.

[.30-06 fan]

a lot of 22 hornet ..... awesome cartridge !

[b money]

45-70 in a winchester 1885 highwall BCPR model
500S&W in an encore And a custom 1885. Just because
375 cheytac or a 50BMG shooting lathe turned alloy bullets on a custom surgeon action.

I never said they would be cheap lol

[bubba.50]

32-20 wcf
375win
50-70gov't

[.30-06 fan]

32-20 wcf
375win
50-70gov't


i digg that .... cool

[texaswoodworker]

.22 Hornet (scary accurate and extremely pleasant to shoot)
44-40 WCF (I'm a cowboy at heart.)
20mm (Cause 50s are for wusses. :p)

[.30-06 fan]

.22 Hornet (scary accurate and extremely pleasant to shoot)
44-40 WCF (I'm a cowboy at heart.)
20mm (Cause 50s are for wusses. :p)

that 22 hornet again. the frugal killer.

[Bazoo]

30-30 In a pre 64 winchester 94
45-70 in a marlin 1895 cowboy
44-40 in a winchester 73 and colt single action frontier

[.30-06 fan]

don't know aboot you guys. i divide my cartridges into 2 categories ...... north America and Africa.

[freebullet]

I have restraint and refuse new caliber whims. I have restraint and refuse new caliber whims. I have restraint and refuse new caliber whims. I have restraint and refuse new caliber whims. Oops, you only asked for 3. Maybe if I keep saying it it will come true?

[texaswoodworker]

that 22 hornet again. the frugal killer.

As popular as it seems to be, I can't believe it's not chambered in more guns. You have to search high and low for one around here.

[.30-06 fan]

As popular as it seems to be, I can't believe it's not chambered in more guns. You have to search high and low for one around here.

if it was, i would the throw down my 22lr.

[texaswoodworker]

if it was, i would the throw down my 22lr.

It's easier to find than .22. :p

[Beagle333]

.280 Remington
.44 special
30-06

[Mk42gunner]

.221 Fireball in a rifle.
.25 Hornet in either a Low Wall or a small rolling block.
.32 H&R mag rifle.

The older I get, the less I like recoil.

Robert

[bobthenailer]

22K hornet , 38-55 & 10mm auto

[nagantguy]

.257 Roberts 45-70 35 Whelan

[BDJ]

357
50-120
219 Zipper
.............................................WAG on AkMike's picture......... 4 Bore Holland

[Smoke4320]

11.2 x 72 Schuler
22 hornet
204 Ruger ... Scratch Just got one Friday

[Czech_too]

25-20
300 Whisper
45 Colt

[Taylor]

32 special
30-40
32-20
but anything that aggravates me and I can't get parts for

[Fyodor]

38-40 ... because my .38spl rifle is not legal for the German WildBunch rules
.22lr ... cheap and lots of fun
.50BMG ... hey... jeah, I need this because... I need this!!!

[JB Weld]

lever action 44
lever action 357
45 LC

[JSnover]

20mm
50BMG
22-250

[Wayne Smith]

22 K Hornet
9.3x74R both because of the cartridge and the type of gun, break open double or drieling
6.5x56R

[Hamish]

30 Badger
30 Bellm
38-45 Auto

[bcr]

308 Steyr Scout
218 Bee Ruger #1
45 LC Ruger Blackhawk

Those are the last three cartridges I need.

[TheCelt]

.221 Fireball
.458 Socom
8 gauge SxS

[square butte]

30-40, 50 exp. Win. (50-110-350), 22 hornet

[bikerbeans]

450 rigby (keep my 416 rigby company)

50 BMG (IMO, Mr Browning's best work)

9.3x74r (best looking rimmed cartridge ever)

BB

[garym1a2]

30-30
30-06
308
45 Colt
7.65x39

[EMC45]

.358 in a bolt or pump Remington
10MM in an EAA Hunter
7MM Mauser in a bolt

[OptimusPanda]

AkMike, is that huge cartridge a 577 t-rex?

[joesig]

BDJ (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/member.php?21510-BDJ) beat me to it.

375-284
375-08
7MM BR

[Janoosh]

8.15×46
30 Badger
32/20.

38/40
357 max
32 mag [whichever is longest]

All in single shot rifles.

[Plate plinker]

.338 lapua
.357 sig
.300 blackout

[Blacksmith]

How about 3 rifles for this cartridge instead? :bigsmyl2:




131438

Could it be a .600/.577 JDJ?

[jumbeaux]

50-70 Govt
275 Rigby
310 Cadet

rick

[crawfobj]

Fun thread.

50 BMG
7.62x39 in a CZ bolt gun
460 Rowland

[cbrick]

I would sure like to have back my . . .

35 BB in Ruger #1
218 Mashburn Bee
270 JDJ

Some of the ones I sold in the mid 90's when I got sick, didn't think I would be shooting anymore and couldn't work. Then I got somewhat better and when I looked into an empty safe I was sick all over again.

Rick

[Alan in Vermont]

243 Win.
32-20
38-55

[Bzcraig]

22 Hornet
38-55
45-70

[altheating]

358 win in a Rem 760
35 Whelan

[white eagle]

358 Norma mag
220 Swift (again)
221 Fireball

[Clay M]

1. Colt Army Special .32-20
2. Colt New Service .38/40
3.Original Win 86 in .45/90

I had all of these once upon a time,,but need money so they went bye bye.

[rockrat]

500 N.E.
450 N.E.
414 super mag

[Blacksmith]

.22 K-Hornet

.55 Boys (13.9x99mmB in metric)

.45/.22 Reverse Taper Asperly Aimless Everlasting Cartridge :bigsmyl2:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?19413-Saga-of-the-Asperly-Aimless&highlight=asperly%20aimless

[John Allen]

250 savage
458 socom
35 whelen

[JSnover]

.55 Boys (13.9x99mmB in metric)
Have you fired a .55 Boys rifle? A buddy of mine had one but it had been re chambered to .50 BMG.

[Kent Fowler]

50-110 Winchester
256 Winchester Magnum
25-20 Winchester

[Blacksmith]

Have you fired a .55 Boys rifle? A buddy of mine had one but it had been re chambered to .50 BMG.

No, never fired one but I remember when they were available for sale but could not afford one.

Another even better would be the Lahti L-39 Finnish anti tank rifle "These were chambered for the more commonly available Solothurn 20x138B (aka 20mm Breda) round, ....". The guns and ammo were sold by Interarmco in Alexandria VA, I went to Interarmco when they were still in business couldn't afford much in those days but had fun looking. They were quite a business, some say it was a front for the CIA to supply arms to trouble spots around the world.

Here is a little more history and a link.

Well, some were lost in combat of course, but 1000 perfectly good and fully functional semiautomatics were put on the world surplus market around 1960. 200,000 rounds of ammo went too, just in case big bore plinkers wanted to test fire their new shoulder cannons.

It looks like most of this offering was snapped up by Interarmco’s redoubtable Sam Cummings who soon found lots of willing buyers among America’s military gun collectors and enthusiasts. Potomac Arms in Virginia and Seaport Traders in California were both retail and mail order outlets for Interarmco, offering mint condition Lahti’s with every accessory and tool imaginable for the astonishingly low price of $99.95! Need ammo? How about 100 rounds of AP-T for a mere 85 cents each?

http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1230

[Djones]

35-30-30
45 LC
41 Mag

[Silvercreek Farmer]

357 Max a bolt gun that would feed long spitzers and everything else down to a 38 and a lever gun that would feed gummys and everything else down to a 38

375 H&H (CZs look nice!) and something to shoot with it! (Although a 35 Whelen or 45-70 Marlin would also work)

358 Winchester M1A

That'll do

[gwpercle]

44-40
38-40
22 hornet

[labradigger1]

oh man....

10 gauge, good one.
They are nice, now if I could just find an old double coach gun
#2, 22 hornet
#3, 1895 Winchester "big stick" aka lion Medicine

[375supermag]

I guess today the choices are...

.45/70
.414SuperMag
.308

Answer could be different tomorrow...I might decide on .30Carbine, 10mm or .300Win Mag.

[Boyscout]

35 Whelen
45-70
308 Win

[SeabeeMan]

22 hornet, because there has to be better than our 22 savage, right?

300 blackout, because suppressed cast in an AR!!!

338 anything, because my shoulder is evil and must be punished hole defending myself at 600 yards.

[06ackley]

405 Winchester
9.3x62
357 max

[Janoosh]

Blacksmith....I begged/pleaded/offered my soul to my parents for one of those. I saw it advertised in a Popular magazine and wanted one reeeeeal bad.
It was a no go.
Would have been a trip as we lived in the Bronx back then.!!

[fatnhappy]

.275 rigby
.338 Federal
40 mm Bofors

[MT Gianni]

6mm Navy
22 Donaldson Wasp
7-30 Waters rifle

[b money]

.275 rigby
.338 Federal
40 mm Bofors

Must have to much air traffic above your house :bigsmyl2:

[skeet1]

.218 Bee
.257 Roberts
6.5 Jap

[castalott]

35 Whelen in a Remington pump
38-55 in a cowboy Marlin with 'twang' sight
45/70 in Browning /Winchester 1886

No Wait! I want a 30 Badger too! And a 358 Winchester on a Fal platform (bears, you know)( there aren't any around here but you never know when the Zoo will have a Great Escape!)

And I thought women were finicky....

[historicfirearms]

500 nitro express
30 Newton
375-06

[Yodogsandman]

243 Win AR-10
45 ACP 1911 (sold my .45)
45-70 Gatlin gun for fun

[smokeywolf]

41 mag.
405 win.
45-90

smokeywolf

[Minerat]

327 mag
375 H&H
.45-110 Sharps

[fatnhappy]

Must have to much air traffic above your house :bigsmyl2:

one can never be too prepared

[ascast]

220 swift
8 gauge
1" Hotchkiss

[ascast]

of just 50 BMG

[x101airborne]

155 G6 Artillery
500 Nitro express or 700 ***
32 long or HR Mag in a single shot.

[Bob Busetti]

>405 wcf, 25/20

[Bob Busetti]

405 wcf, 25/20 wcf, 33wcf

[rca]

220 swift
280 AI
358 sta

[birddog]

Well for the big bore we'll start with the 500 Jefferys, then it would be the 358 Norma Mag and then the 257 Roberts Improved
Charlie

[theperfessor]

.256 Win in a small, light single shot break action or falling block rifle

my .222 in a 788 that i had to sell years ago

a 7mm rimmed revolver cartridge that hasn't been invented yet and can't be made from anything else out there. 7 rounds in a J frame sound interesting?

[farmerjim]

50 BMG
500 nitro
3 in black powder cannon

[woodbutcher]

:smile: Well lets see.
45-70 on a nice Siamese Mauser action with a 26"bbl. with a weaver K4 with a duplex reticl






















45-70 in a Siamese Mauser action with a 26" bbl with a K4 Weaver with duplex reticle.
.223 in a 788 Remington with a K4 Weaver with duplex reticle.
7MM Mauser in a 1893 action with a duplex reticle.
Had one each of the above,and let them get away,like a darn fool.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

[MarkP]

8 ga SxS
22 R2 Lovell
348 Win

[xs11jack]

300 Win Mag
The Win mod 88 in 284 I sold.
454 Casull.
Ole Jack

[Thin Man]

300 H&H (pre-64 Winchester M70, please)
7x61 Sharpe & Hart, aka 7x61 Super (perhaps on a Husqvarna action)
50 BMG (Barrett, can drive right to their facility)

[Ed Barrett]

.405
any Sharps .40 and up
38-55

[Steve77]

Marlin 44 mag lever gun
.357 mag not sure which frame yet
Savage bolt action 6.5 swede

[rking22]

300 Sherwood in a Rook Rifle
32SW Long in a Browning T-Bolt
3030 in a Low Wall

Working on the 35 cal pump gun presently, so the Sherwood is now on top of the list.

[TXGunNut]

Last thing I need right now is a new cartridge to buy dies, moulds and brass for. But someday:

38WCF
44WCF
358 Winchester

[crawfobj]

Ok, I voted earlier, but that was then and this is now.

Golf ball caliber cannon
.38spl in scale Gatling gun
Beer can caliber mortar

[starmac]

358 win, if one come around in a 99
375 win again in a 99
most any other cal in a 99.
That would do it for my wish list, but I have a wish list for the wife to get started on. lol

[lightman]

6mm BR
some kind of 50 something in a Sharps
50 BMG
Adding 300AAC just for kicks

[AkMike]

Ok, Way back on page 2, I showed a pic of the mystery cartridge that I was holding. The guesses were a bit on the small size though.

No it's not a 10Ga nor a 700 or even a 600. The 577 T-rex is a whimp!

That is a 4 bore Cartridge. That's a hole in the pipe just over one inch. 120 grains of Blue Dot will roll the round ball out at 1750 fps and 9414 of energy.
16 drams of FG or FFG (440 grns) is a bit less than the Bue Dot.


The cool factor is that these rifles are from the 1870-80's and are still the largest shoulder fired guns around short of a 2 bore punt gun. (Those weren't shoulder fired though)



http://youtu.be/ly140tZ4-rU

[swamp]

how bout these...
8mm Lebel
7.62 Tokarev
10 gauge


Have two of the Lebels. carbine and rifle. Lots of fun.

[pretzelxx]

Just three? Ugh. 10mm 338 lapua and 458 SOCOM

[Superfly]

25 mm 20 mm and the 50 bmg.

[maxreloader]

.458 Socom
219 Zipper
50-110 EX

[PS Paul]

500 A Square by Art Alphin, 32-20 in a single shot and 38 Super.

had a model 70 in .458 win mag for 20 years. Great cast boolit shooter with an aperture sight, but I sold it off in a weak moment. Kinda wish I had it back. Buddy had an Art Alphin in 500 A Square with an extended eye relief 2x scope. Had a lot of fun shooting that with my 458 over the years.... Would love to have that setup.

[MaLar]

222 again sold it a Rem 788 dumb things we do.
308 small ring 98 see above.
45 Colt in a single shot I have a couple of long barrels.

[NC_JEFF]

44 magnum
308 win
22-250

[wch]

45 Colt, 338 Lapua Magnum, 41 Magnum

[hockeynick39]

.404 Jeffery
9.3 x 66 Sako
.416 Barrett

[Plate plinker]

220 swift
8 gauge
1" Hotchkiss
Oh man o forgot I need a cannon!
dang it.
Lets go to camp Grayling.

[leebuilder]

6.5 russian
45/70
308×1.5
Made many cannons. Funnest is a marble mortar, Mom of all peaple likes it too. When see visits i will light it off just for her, makes her laugh and smile. Makes me feel good.

[starmac]

Ok, Way back on page 2, I showed a pic of the mystery cartridge that I was holding. The guesses were a bit on the small size though.

No it's not a 10Ga nor a 700 or even a 600. The 577 T-rex is a whimp!

That is a 4 bore Cartridge. That's a hole in the pipe just over one inch. 120 grains of Blue Dot will roll the round ball out at 1750 fps and 9414 of energy.
16 drams of FG or FFG (440 grns) is a bit less than the Bue Dot.


The cool factor is that these rifles are from the 1870-80's and are still the largest shoulder fired guns around short of a 2 bore punt gun. (Those weren't shoulder fired though)



http://youtu.be/ly140tZ4-rU

I see from the picture, that you have to tie your shoulder on before you light that thing off. lol

[1Shirt]

358Win
250-300 for a 99 Sav
35 Whelan
1Shirt!

[btroj]

358 Win and 25-20

[zardoz]

25 ACP
454 Casull
50 BMG

[HABCAN]

.44-40, '92 Winchester.
.40-70, Lee Enfield rebarrel conversion.
.38-55/.375 Win. single shot, Rem roller??

[lbaize3]

6.5-06
.358
.375 Ruger

[Blacksmith]

Is someone compiling all this data? Gun makers want to know!

[TXGunNut]

Is someone compiling all this data? Gun makers want to know!


I wouldn't be so sure, they seem to be in a rut. Most of those I've seen mentioned were a little too far off the beaten path for the mainstream gun buyer. It was hard for me to name three, seems I already have several of the rifles other folks wish for.

[Kraschenbirn]

.50-70 (Rolling Block)
.222 Rem ('cause I ain't got one)
.333 OKH (just for the fun of it)

[Alan in GA]

.358 Win
.375 Win
35 Rem

[Firebricker]

.22 Hornet specificly Ruger #3 No real logic or reason just want one.

.454 Casull Always liked them and the work of D.Casull to get it going.

.50 BMG In any accurate rifle but preferably a Barrett. Would give me the final push to move west where it would be easier to find places to shoot long range. FB

[alamogunr]

Is someone compiling all this data? Gun makers want to know!


I wouldn't be so sure, they seem to be in a rut. Most of those I've seen mentioned were a little too far off the beaten path for the mainstream gun buyer. It was hard for me to name three, seems I already have several of the rifles other folks wish for.

After reading thru this thread, it is noticeable that much of the wishful thinking centers around cartridges that are no longer available. Could this be because they didn't sell well when available?

One of my weaknesses is that I seem to covet something when I can't get it anymore.

[Dave18]

32-20,
shot one long ago out of some levergun(had like a 24in barrel on it) most pleasureable rifle to shoot, low noise, amazingly accurate, no recoil, just plain fun, the guy who had it died and the gun disappeared(go figure)

9mmx39, the Russian version of the blackout, just thought it would be neat/fun to play with,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSS_Vintorez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9739mm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af96XDdjvxY

6.5 creedmore, something that shoots real flat with less recoil than the 300wm for getting way out there

[flyingmonkey35]

I already cast for these but don't own the firearms.

45acp
45colt
44
40s&w

[ascast]

Does the 4 bore come with extra undies?

[jabo52521]

30 carbine. Pistol.
35 Remington
44 mag. Carbine.
Just think they are neat.

[Geraldo]

.44 Merwin-Hulbert
.470 NE
.280 AI

[DCM]

50BMG, 20mm, 30mm
Can't afford any of them but I can dream.

[Gar]

50 BMG
45/70
56-56 Spencer

[WILCO]

.218 Bee
.22 Hornet
.32-20

[WILCO]

.222 Rem ('cause I ain't got one)

I had one. It was in a Savage. Great shooting rifle and cartridge. Never should of sold it.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

No, never fired one but I remember when they were available for sale but could not afford one.

Another even better would be the Lahti L-39 Finnish anti tank rifle "These were chambered for the more commonly available Solothurn 20x138B (aka 20mm Breda) round, ....". The guns and ammo were sold by Interarmco in Alexandria VA, I went to Interarmco when they were still in business couldn't afford much in those days but had fun looking. They were quite a business, some say it was a front for the CIA to supply arms to trouble spots around the world.

Here is a little more history and a link.


http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1230

I probably still have an "American Rifleman" with an article on shooting the Solothurn, somewhere around 1968. The author reported that the recoil, in a semiautomatic, was very powerful but seemed slow, pushing you back rather than hitting you. It was an extremely good 20mm. antitank rifle by the standards of 1936 or so, when the idea was probably conceived. The trouble was that by the time things really started happening, tanks had got extremely better. Not much, in the European war, depended on lighter armoured cars.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

.275 rigby
.338 Federal
40 mm Bofors

I used to know a Kuwaiti air force officer who, post-1990, had an anti-aircraft gun in his garden, and went around saying "Next time..." I don't know the make, but it would have been about 37 or 40mm. He said nobody else seemed to want it, and the bigger ones were too big to tow behind his car, so that would have been wrong.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

Ok, Way back on page 2, I showed a pic of the mystery cartridge that I was holding. The guesses were a bit on the small size though.

No it's not a 10Ga nor a 700 or even a 600. The 577 T-rex is a whimp!

That is a 4 bore Cartridge. That's a hole in the pipe just over one inch. 120 grains of Blue Dot will roll the round ball out at 1750 fps and 9414 of energy.
16 drams of FG or FFG (440 grns) is a bit less than the Bue Dot.


The cool factor is that these rifles are from the 1870-80's and are still the largest shoulder fired guns around short of a 2 bore punt gun. (Those weren't shoulder fired though)



http://youtu.be/ly140tZ4-rU

A few custom gunmakers have produced 2 bore shoulder guns recently, although it would be hard to see a logical reason until somebody invents a bigger elephant. Or if the owner has a preoccupation with the size of something completely different. Punt guns were larger still, up to around 2in. bore, but they weren't shoulder fired. They were supported either by a spring trunnion device or breeching ropes around the stem of the punt. The nearest some came to the shoulder was a sort of hinged wooden spade under the shooter's chest.

Back in the muzzle-loading days, when one shot was all you were liable to get, the 2 bore for African game had some point. But Sir Samuel Baker, the only person I heard of using one for practical reasons, heartily regretted it and said he never shot as well with anything after using them.

A four bore, by contrast, was fairly manageable if it had the weight of a heavy double. When something monstrous is coming at you, recoil ceases to preoccupy you. They were largely supplanted, though, by double 8 bores, both rifled and smoothbore. Some of the early ones were also very heavy, but they came down enough in weight, with moderate loads, to be quite comfortable to shoot, and even the smoothbores gave groups that would be considered good with modern shotgun slugs.

So number one in my choice would be an 8 bore hammer rifle, chambered for the brass cases. The greatest strength is produced with back action locks and the rotary underlever locking system.

Second is one so rare I have never even seen detailed dimensions. There was a .30/.310 round, and the measurement of some Cadet cases I have suggests that it was simply a .308 inside lubed or jacketed bullet loaded into that case, for an appropriate bored barrel. It is also on the British government's list of freely ownable antiques, if it was made up to 1939, which I am sure they all were... if there actually ever were any. I enjoy telling the police "No, I don't need a licence to acquire it. I already have it. I just want a licence, on account of being law-abiding, to shoot it. N0, I don't need a licence to buy cartridges..." They are pretty used to that from me, but it sharpens them up and improves the breed.

Third is nothing very out of the ordinary. Just a .303 sporting rifle built on the early Long Lee-Enfield rifle which never had a charger guide, to the standard early twentieth century British gunmakers made them. Or a barrel blank and derelict action to make my own.

[Tonto]

338 Lapua
338 Federal
500Linebaugh

[abunaitoo]

Gyro Jet. Pistol or carbine.
38 Tround
7mm Nambu in a Baby Nambu.
I like strange stuff.

[bear67]

25-20
.30 carbine in a revolver
10 ga, just because I have never owned one.

[MT Gianni]

At the gun show yesterday I saw two 99's in 284 on different tables, but within 15 feet. The less expensive one could probably be bargained down to under $1200 but I need a new cartridge like I need a lobotomy.

[MaryB]

50bmg would be fun but 338 lapua is going to be cheaper to reload... and do I need something that can stop a vehicle? 338 uses about 1/3 the powder of a 50bmg.

[michiganmike]

Here is my list, with comments:
1. .338 Federal (In an AR-10, 20" barrel)
2. 45-70 (in Marlin 1895 lever action)
3. 45 Long Colt in the Ruger Vaquero. I know little about revolvers, but every Ruger rifle I have bought has been an outstanding value.

[NavyVet1959]

25-20
.30 carbine in a revolver
10 ga, just because I have never owned one.

I have an 8-gauge slug, but unfortunately, no firearm for it...

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

358 winchester
219 zipper
22tcm



I see a lot of 358 Winchesters in the list , some maker should jump on that and make it a factory chambering in a bolt action rifle so that we can all buy them really doesn't seem like it should be all that hard

[DLCTEX]

327 mag in revolver and lever rifle
45 Colt in same
480 Ruger in lever rifle (have the revolver)
already have 22 Hornet in revolver and rifle or I would want that too.

[cattleskinner]

Cz 527 in 221 fireball
Marlin 336 in either 375 Win or 38-55

Both would need wood stocks with good figure...

[3leggedturtle]

A drilling in 20 gauge, 32WCF and 50/70

[.30-06 fan]

A drilling in 20 gauge, 32WCF and 50/70

i suffer from reoccurring drilling fever.
came very close to purchasing a 30-06 over sxs 12 gauge.
$$$$'s prevented me from the transaction.

:shock:

[Deadpool]

8 gauge
20x138mm
30x173mm

I recall a moron telling me 30 years ago "they don't make 8 gauge shotguns!" You can make a 2-gauge if you want.. he didn't understand.

[Blacksmith]

How about:
.218 Mashburn Bee
.219 Donaldson Wasp
.220 Weatherby Rocket
.221 Remington Fireball
.222 Remington Rimmed
.223 Winchester Super Short Magnum
.224 Clark
.225 Winchester
.226 JDJ

I know that is more than three but that gives me a numerical set. I could have left out the .222 and .223 because I have something in those numbers but the two included are different and we can't have to many calibers because each new one means more molds, dies, recipies, etc. in other words more fun.[smilie=l:

[paul h]

22 Hornet, 28-30 Stevens, 300 AAC

[762sultan]

375 H&H ..model 70 win
405 Winchester..model 95 win
454...Ruger super redhawk

[Shooternz]

Shame being limited to 3 but ok
220 Swift always wanted one
358 Win best cast boolit cal
38/55 Win Hi-Wall next best cast boolit cal

[Got-R-Did]

.260 Rem
6MM BR
.300 BO.

[mac45]

.300 H&H
.30 US
.44 Special

[Silverbulletsmith]

20mm in either Lahti or Solothurn

[possom813]

9x25 dillon
.357 b&d
SSK .905

[avogunner]

40-65
.33 Winchester
45-120

[captaint]

.358 Winchester. That's it...

[vmathias]

308
223
12 guage

I keep things simple. :-)

[dh2]

I have a lot of guy's wish list covered already but want to add
22 Hornet
26 Nosler
.416 Rem. Mag.

[gordie]

25-35
7-30 waters
.358win

and last but not least... get granddad's 400 whelen working.

[GhostHawk]

For me, 9mm, preferably in a Handi Rifle, possibly in a pistol. I have dies, brass, powder, primers, but no 9mm gun. My shooting buddy does have one which is why I got started with them.

I'm also slightly interested in a .45 carbine. But probably not willing to spend the dollars to get one.

[brstevns]

577 snider if brass was cheaper
30-40 krag in a win 95
350 Rem.Mag

[TXGunNut]

.358 Winchester. That's it...
.
I think the Holy Grail of cast boolits is the 358 Winchester, unless you happen to be a levergun fan. In that case it's the 35 Remington. Or, of course, the 45-70. Maybe the 45 Colt. I truly don't know.

[gds45]

45-70 in a Sharps
45LC in a lever
.308 in a bolt
:bigsmyl2:

[GaryN]

38-55
338 lapua
358 Winchester

[Newtire]

I'm lucky, have most of the ones I want but would like these too:
.223 bolt gun
28 gauge O/U
.219 Wasp

[BLTsandwedge]

.22-15-60 Stevens
.25-21 Stevens
.28-30-120 Stevens

Each in mint 44 and 44 1/2 Stevens, as appropriate. I'm working on this.

[firefly1957]

Let's see three new cartridges i don't have yet?
.401 WSL Winchester model 1910
.50 BMG Barrett
.357 Magnum I wish i had never traded my old model 28 .

[dragon813gt]

25-223
250-3000
257 Roberts

Seems I have a want for some quarter bores. The last two are model specific wants. I honestly don't need anymore. I have to many as it is and more won't serve any purpose.

[Horace]

221 Fire Ball / left hand Rifle
30-40 Krag in a modern left hand rifle
250-3000 Savage 99 Takedown

[scarry scarney]

Any three from this list.....
20mm Lahti L-39
45-70 Gatlin gun
1" Hotchkiss
338 Lapua
Gyro Jet
7 or 8mm Nambu

[richhodg66]

.
I think the Holy Grail of cast boolits is the 358 Winchester, unless you happen to be a levergun fan. In that case it's the 35 Remington. Or, of course, the 45-70. Maybe the 45 Colt. I truly don't know.

The .358 can be had both in Savage 99s and Browning BLRs. Gotta agree on the .35 Remington, what a great cartridge!

[Deadpool]

Gyro Jet

Reloading would be fun. The Lahti might need hydraulics to reload.

[Artful]

Reloading would be fun. The Lahti might need hydraulics to reload.
or a big Arbor Press

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_QB3G4FAn8

[tdoyka]

38-55
357 rem maximum
338 federal
all in tc encore and MGM barrels(23-25")

i'm going to change the 338 federal into a 30-06 in a springfield armory or a 1917 enfield

[LUCKYDAWG13]

1# 338 bolt
2# 416 side by side
3# 45/70 lever

[Harter66]

40mm Ak Ak
3" 50
105 Howie

I can't tell you why ,but what problem solvers they would be.

[Bored1]

375 H&H
45/70
44 mag

[scarry scarney]

"105 Howie" - can you imagine the press for that baby?

[Rhou45]

32-20 in a SAA wheel gun
32 Win Special in a Lever
257 Roberts in a High grade walnut stocked Winchester Model 70

[flint45]

.22 hornet
.38-72 95 Winchester
.32-40

[mold maker]

243, 8 mm, 458

[ProfGAB101]

7.62 Tok in an AR SBR
458 SOCOM Bolt gun ( In Process ), 458 SOCOM AR is done.
357 B&D in both a lever gun and revolver

Also

8 ga metallic shotshell in an M203 shorty ( Think Hall way Blunderbuss )
300 BO in bolt gun ( In process)
9x39 bolt gun

[EDK]

50 BMG in a Barrett semi auto...with plenty of ammo, magazines, components, and a complete reloading outfit.

327 magnums...with a MARLIN 24 inch Cowboy rifle, a pair of S&W model 16s, and a pair of RUGER Blackhawks.

10 mm...replacements for the 5 inch S&W 610s I traded off and a pair of S&W 1006 autos.

[Clay M]

I think I have done this before but it would certainly be the ..38/40 and the .32/20
Those are the two that I had in the past that I am longing for..

Maybe a .338 Lapua for a long range rifle .

Two different worlds..but I would love to have guns in those calibers..
I will probably settle for a nice 6.5 for long range work..
I am very interested in long range target shooting.
The old Sharps as well as modern day cartridges.
It is a fascinating art..
I would never bet against the Sharps..

[NavyVet1959]

Well, I got my .50 BMG barrel the other day, so I'm one step closer to a wildcat based on that cartridge. The barrel is not tapered and 1.625" in diameter, so it weighs enough that one could argue that it is closer to artillery than a "rifle". :)

[cowboybart]

357 mag in a Coonan platform
6.5 anything under 16 ga barrels in a Drillings
Original 35 Newton

[tygar]

I have or had just about anything I've wanted so the ones on my "to do" list are 338-06(being made) .460 maybe .500 in a lever action, 450 Alaskan built on a M71 action.

[Elkins45]

454 Casull
327 Federal
50 BMG with honorable mention going to 20mm Oerlikon

[Mgderf]

1-.338 Lapua
2-.50BMG (not sure I could afford to feed this beast)
3*- .327Fed/mag CARBINE

*-I own a Taurus model 3272SS, 6-shot .327Fed/mag snubbie and I love it, but I would REALLY like it if someone would offer a lever gun in .327.
I'd be all over that.

[MaryB]

I would love a 50bmg but can reload 338 lapua for half the price and not give up much for range or stopping power.

[NavyVet1959]

I would love a 50bmg but can reload 338 lapua for half the price and not give up much for range or stopping power.

My .50 BMG barrel is going to have the first 3" rechambered in 12-gauge and then the cast bullet will be shoved into the chamber touching the lands separately. I'm thinking I can reload it for pretty cheap.

Using the Lee 450 gr mold, I'm looking at $1.29 per 20 rounds.
Using WC860, I'm looking at $56 / 8 lbs. Figuring somewhere around 200 gr per cartridge, that would work out to be $0.20 per round or $4 per 20 rounds.

Using shotgun primers instead of arsenal primers, I am looking at $0.03 each or $0.60 per 20. I might end up having to make it a duplex load by putting a couple of grains of a fast powder right above the primer in order to get the WC860 to start burning acceptably.

That makes it $5.89 per 20 rounds so far.

Not sure if the plastic shells can be reloaded after being shot at this pressure, so assuming that they can't, that would mean I would have to factor in the cost of the shells at $6/100 or $0.06 each or another $1.20 per 20.

That would bring it up to $7.09 per 20.

That's pretty cheap considering what the guys that shoot the actual .50 BMG end up paying, I think...

[Wayne R. Scott]

.25-222 Copperhead
.338-06

and .375 H&H in one of these:

[AricTheRed]

458 Lott bolt gun with a scout scope & irons

454 Casull revolver SRH or the like

35 Whelen m1garand

If it was available replace the Whelen with a .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer.

[powderburnerr]

56-50 spencer
41 rimfire
44 rimfire

[Mauser48]

22-250
44 magnum
300 win mag

[.45Cole]

.500S&W deerfield carbine
12ga /.22 hornet vierling
6x47 encore pistol

[OeldeWolf]

.308 in an M14
45-70 in a Gatling gun And maybe a Sharps.
.50 BMG in an M2, and in a Barret Semi auto.

[NoZombies]

.22 Flea
.450 nitro express
16 gauge

[SSGOldfart]

Hmmm I've got must of what I want,maybe a
Bolt action 6mm
a 17 cal break-Over single shot
Encore 357 max

[Bohica793]

41 Magnum
6.5 Creedmoor
45-120 Sharps

[calshipbuilder]

375 winchester in a model 99
284 winchester in a model 99
some nitro express in a double rifle

[hiram]

38-55
41 mag for marlin carbine
32-40

[pworley1]

56 50
33 wcf
50 90 sharps

[Muskrat Mike]

384 Winchester
7X57 mm Mauser
22High Power

[dk17hmr]

The gaps in my collection would be filled by a
6.5 WSM
348 Winchester...yes the 348
375 Cheytac

I have just about everything else covered from 17 to 50

338 Lapua may use half the powder but it doesn't use powder that costs $50 for 8 pounders like the 50bmg does. Even if you were strictly on factory ammo 50BMG is cheaper to shoot at about $2.70 a shot compared to 338 Lapua at $5.00 a shot (local prices)......I looked into it more after I bought a 338 Lapua and realized 50bmg was less expensive.

[justingrosche]

Like Doug, I'd like a 348 in my collection. But it would fall to third on my list
#1 1892 win in 25-20
#2 would be a model 53 in 218 Bee
#3 348 win

[Multigunner]

.32-20, preferably in a 1892 Winchester take down carbine and a Colt Police Positive (special?).
I ran across a .32-20 Colt like that years ago at a very very reasonable price. The exterior was in excellent condition, nearly NIB, but unfortunately when I examined the bore there was a huge gaping pit in the middle of an otherwise excellent bore.

Second would be a 40-80 Bottleneck. One of these held a record for smallest group at 1,000 yards that lasted till the 1960's when broken by a .25-06. Prefered rifle would be a Borchart.

Third would be a .50-95 Express, but only if I could obtain a Colt pump action Express rifle in that chambering. I always felt that would have been the perfect rifle for the Lord Roxton character in "the Lost World". Probably good medicine for large predators, even in packs.

There have been replicas made of the smaller Colt short rifle and "Baby" pump action carbine in .44-40, 38-40, etc.

[rrob692326]

20mm Hispano- Suiza
14.5 kpv
460 Weatherby

[perotter]

While it's still up in the air, there is a good chance that I'll be able to drop 20x138B. If so, does that mean I can add a different one to this thread?

[Wasalmonslayer]

My list would be
1)35 Whelen
2)358 win
3)Smith 4" 357
I have a lot of guns not a lot of big bores.
I used to be in the ultra fast overbore guns and semi auto brass throwers.
Now I am all about huge lead flying slow and wheel guns so I do not have to chase brass!
Bolts are disappearing and levers are apearing. Brass throwers are moving further back in the safe and the couple wheel guns I have are always front row.
Scopes are also turning into peep sights!

[Big Boomer]

Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine
Ruger Blackhawk in .41 Magnum

Its tough having lots of brass for those two revolvers and not having the revolvers.
That's just two but, given time, I'll come up with another. Would prefer both of those to be Bisleys. Big Boomer

[iomskp]

375 flanged
400 Purdey
44/77
That should just about do it for me

[victorfox]

1) CZ 550FS .308
2) Ruger GP100 6" .357
3) Over/under 12/.308
:bigsmyl2:

[Pine Baron]

1. .50 BMG. Because, well Duh.
2. .30-06. Because I regret selling my 1903A4 more than any of my 3 exe's
3. .32 Auto. Because I always wanted a skeletonized Beretta with a chamois shoulder holster (Bond, James Bond)

[scarry scarney]

475 Wildey Magnum
10 mm
338 Lapua
13 mm Gyrojet

Ok, so I named four.....

[Blackwater]

CZ Mini-Mausers in .22 Hornet and maybe .221 Fireball, and a #1 or 3 Ruger in .50/110 with custom oct. barrel 28" long, and custom stock, forend and reshaped trigger guard. I have everything else I want already, in one acceptable fashion or another. I'd also love a SxS Beretta SO-7 in 12 or 16 ga., or I'd even take a 20, too. Those just keep outpacing my income level! But us country boys can still dream, can't we?

[retread]

44-40
38-40
22 hornet

My thought exactly!

[dragon813gt]

338 Federal
257 Roberts
22 Hornet

I don't have a lot of interest in the Hornet but it's an extremely economical round. I don't have any gaps in my collection. Handguns for every application and rifles to cover every game animal in the world.

[Reverend Al]

8.15x46R
9.3x57mm
.35/30-30

(Hey .. what can I say? I like oddball cartridges ...)

[osteodoc08]

Really Jonesing for a long range gun in 6.5 Creedmoor.

Ive been wanting a lever action 32-20 and 35 Remington currently

[tygar]

I have or have had, most anything I wanted in big bores 416, 458, 458 Lott, 450 Watts, 460 Wby, 470 Nitro, but have never even shot a 505 Gibbs, so I guess that would be at the top of the list. (at least until after the first shot)

There are some "oldies" that would be cool. A double barrel flintlock rifle to match the one Tim Murphy shot killing the British general at Saratoga.

An mint original 1886 Win in 45-70 or similar.

and

My jungle "greasegun" I carried in VN.

[Preacher Jim]

22 2rlovel 44 stevens
32-40 hiwall
Got all the rest