Marlin 1893 barrel

[sghart3578]

Hello gents,

Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement barrel for a Marlin 1893? I want to keep it a 30-30.

Thanks in advance for your time,

Steve in N CA

[SOFMatchstaff]

What caliber? You might consider a liner, or rebore as I have looked for 93 barrels and only found the worst case condition as far as bore goes, I fire lapped my 25/36 and got good results with jacketed, not cast though, just to rough.

I am considering a .40 cal bore on a 38/55 bbl that is toast, got to do some research first. I kinda want to keep the exterior original.

[TXGunNut]

Possibly Homestead.

[Uncle Jimbo]

You might try here.
Don't know if they have the exact replacement or not.

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/tapered-octagon-barrels/

[sghart3578]

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[Wind]

Hey there sghart -- The suggestion to reline was an excellent one. If the only issues are a worn/damaged bore, the reline will make things as good or better than new. Everything else about the rifle remains the same, including the caliber designation. Finding an excellent barrel replacement in your caliber of choice may prove to be difficult. Having been down this road a few times, I can't speak highly enough of John Taylor's work. http://www.johntaylormachine.com/49.0.html I'm also very impressed with a TJ's hammer forged liner. John can provide this as well.

Here's how that program played with one of my 1893's... The liner, still with some packaging...

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The "exit end" after getting it back from John...

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I usually do a few "aging" treatments to blend the new to the old... Here is the results of the first of several...

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Hope this helps. Best regards. Wind

[SOFMatchstaff]

Wind, nice , that Taylors work? 38-55? How much did it cost you? i think I'll go that route again instead of the .40 bore I was thinking of. I had Mark Bienke do a 38-40 on a 1892 and it is great. wish he was still working. i guess I'll have to do it myself this time. Liners are a good way to go..

[Wind]

Hey there SOF -- Yes indeed. John does excellent work. Poetry in tubular steel!! The one pictured above is an "uncommon" round barrel 1893 in 38-55. Here is some more of his work, 30 caliber in a Winchester 1895...

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Here's Mike's price sheet. It's a couple years old so you might call and check for changes... For those of you whom may not know, clicking on the photos will enlarge them and make them easier to read.

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He is the only one I know selling a true 38-55 liner at .379", not a .375" diameter one.

John was charging about $200 for the install providing there were no other issues he needs to deal with. Just be sure to call and make arrangements BEFORE sending the rifle. The liners will be about $200 additional depending on the length.

Hope this helps. Best regards. Wind

[skeet1]

I highly agree with Wind about relining the barrel by John Taylor. When you are dealing with an antique or family heirloom it is the b est way to go while keeping the rifle as original as possible. Yes you can re-barrel or bore to a larger caliber but it is not the same. when you re-barrel you loose the original look of the firearm finish when you bore to a larger caliber the the designation on the barrel is wrong.

One other thing about John Taylor is that he does the higher pressure cartridges. a lot of smiths do the simple relines involving pistol size calibers, not so many the larger ones.

Ken

[sghart3578]

Hello guys,

Thanks for all of the responses. My rifle is apparently something of a hybrid. It is a Marlin 1893 receiver dating to 1902 with a 24" round Marlin 36-A-DL barrel on it. The bore dimensions are odd slugging .301" X .314". It also has a constriction under the dovetail cut for the rear sight.

I am having little luck getting cast bullets to shoot. Jacketed are fair to okay. I have contacted Mr. Taylor and he has responded.

Attached are some photos. I really like this rifle.

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[SOFMatchstaff]

Are you sure its a 93 reciever and not an original 36 A-DL?? I found this some time back and retrieved it. you should be able to lap the high spot out and see if it will group. might be cheaper than a reline and you can use 303 projos if the neck will allow it. I had the same issue with my 95 winchester in 30-40 Krag (30US), bore dia, not sight bump. worked great as the groups shrank to two inches from about 6+


Model 36: 1946 to 1947.
30-30, 32 Special
Model 36 is marked on the barrel, not on the tang as in the Model 1936 and earlier guns. Blued reciever. Serial numbers located on the lower tang under the lever. These are squarebolts and are not to be confused with later roundbolt Glenfield 36 (336 roundbolt action). Late 1945 production resumed on limited basis using C prefix and leftover parts (some guns will have Pre-WWII Model 1936 parts mixed with Post WWII Model 36 parts. IE: 1936 action with 36 barrel. These guns are considered Model 36s.
Post WWII production had blued receivers and Model 36 on barrel
Barrel roll stamp reads:
"The Marlin Firearms Co. New Haven Conn USA-est 1870"
Model 36 (then caliber designation)
Variations of Model #: 36-A-DL, 36-A, 36-RC C-1945 shiny blue on top of receiver
c-1946 (note: c prefix is lower case)
D-1947 sandblasted top of receiver starts
Model 36 Production supposedly ceased in 1947. However Model 336 production began in June 1948. Is a there a possiblity of some E prefix Model 36s??

[sghart3578]

No, it is an 1893. The serial number dates the receiver to 1902.

[wwmartin]

You must have mines brother . I have a 1893 that had a 36 ADL 30-30 front on it. I wondered if they made them up from parts on hand when they changed to the model 36. WW Martin

[sghart3578]

I don't know how it came to be. I was told by one knowledgeable Marlin guy that this was a common service offered by Marlin in the 40's. If your 1893 was shot out they would re-barrel it with a new they had on hand, in this case a 36 A-DL barrel.

[Wind]

Hey again sghart -- Nice looking rifle. Another minor complication in the search for a new-old barrel would be the magazine tube length/stud dovetail. A liner and an MVA tang sight and you'd be good for a 1,000 yards!! Best regards. Wind

[John Taylor]

It seems Marlin would put a later barrel on the old 1893s if they were sent in with a bad barrel. My 1893 was found in an old miners cabin with a bent barrel and mag tube. The finder sent it to Marlin and it came back with a 30-30 carbine barrel My father picked it up in a trade for fixing a car back in the 50s. I was told it had been a 25-36 octagon barrel when found. I found an original 25-36 barrel that was rusted out and bored it to 38-55. This was one of the first barrels I did after building my rifling machine about 16 years ago. I was only set up for eight groove rifling at the time so it would be obvious to a collector that it had been rebored.
This last month I made three 30" long octagon barrels in 32-40 for 336 marlins. A little more expensive than a reline and there are people out there that can put the original stile lettering on them if wanted.