ThaDoubleJ
02-18-2015, 09:33 PM
I got bored over the winter, so I bought these
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/22%20Reloading%20Stuff_zpsxkysmwbz.jpg
Made these
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/22%20Bator_zpsrj76utkz.jpg
And stuck em in these
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/22%20Bator%20Loaded%20in%205.7_zpsgorcjqpd.jpg
It was finally nice today, and I had a really good excuse to get to the range, so I hauled the FsN along to try out these boolits.
I used three different types of lube on them, Lee Liquid Alox (LLA), a mixture of LLA, Johnson's Paste Wax, and mineral spirits called 45/45/10, and some TAC. This was my first try with both LLA and 45/45/10, have used and been happy with TAC in the past.
Here's the data, some notes on the bottom....not everything was awesome
CCI500, 55gr Boolits, GC, Blue Dot, 2x Brass, COAL 1.381 - EA threaded barrel
Lee Liquid Alox
5.2gr Hi 1471, Lo 1419, Av 1443, ES 52 - No Pressure, clean neck
5.4gr Hi 1563, Lo 1499, Av 1531, ES 64 - No Pressure
5.6gr Hi 1620, Lo 1579, Av 1597, ES 41 - Slight primer flow
5.8gr Hi 1675, Lo 1638, Av 1656, ES 37 - Medium primer flow (Less than 197)
Primers just starting to show flattening
45/45/10
5.2gr Hi 1522, Lo 1403, Av 1465, ES 119 - No Pressure, One boolit sideways
5.4gr Hi 1633, Lo 1534, Av 1573, ES 99 - Very slight primer flow
5.6gr Hi 1610, Lo 1557, Av 1590, ES 53 - Same as 5.4
5.8gr Hi 1689, Lo 1585, Av 1647, ES 104 - Same as 5.4
RandyRat TAC Lube
5.2gr Hi 1622, Lo 1452, Av 1563, ES 170 - Slight primer flow
5.4gr Hi 1602, Lo 1516, Av 1561, ES 86 - Slight primer flow
5.6gr Hi 1666, Lo 1559, Av 1629, ES 107 - Slight primer flow, recoil higher than 197
5.8gr Hi 1683, Lo 1652, Av 1668, ES 31 - Medium primer flow, brass landed 5 feet closer
SS197 Hi 1731, Lo 1713, Av 1722, ES 18
As you can see
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/Leonidas%20and%20Ultralight/Sideways%20Bullet_zpsvmrxmpbw.jpg
One early boolit hit the target sideways, from 7 yards away. About 30% of them exhibited some form of keyholing, though never as bad as the one above.
I'm a pretty mediocre caster, my lead melter is probably too cold, so my guess right now is that my bases are crooked, meaning my gas checks are crooked, meaning my boolits come out crooked.
Some things I learned:
Do not lube with TAC prior to seating the gas checks, they won't seat properly, and the boolits won't seat in the case mouths properly.
This is the cheapest way you can shoot your 5.7, if you don't mind some keyholes, or you're a better caster than I am.
There was no leading at all in my barrel at any point during this testing.
Function was 99%, had one FTF, first round in the mag, maybe my fault.
TAC smells wonderful when you shoot it, LLA not so much.
This method of reloading takes forever.
If I was going to pursue this route, and I may, I'd get me a case mouth expander and a Lee factory crimp die, pretty tough getting those flat gas checks into the case mouths.
Accuracy was acceptable for plinking, you'd be on steel all day, even with the keyholes.
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/22%20Reloading%20Stuff_zpsxkysmwbz.jpg
Made these
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/22%20Bator_zpsrj76utkz.jpg
And stuck em in these
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/22%20Bator%20Loaded%20in%205.7_zpsgorcjqpd.jpg
It was finally nice today, and I had a really good excuse to get to the range, so I hauled the FsN along to try out these boolits.
I used three different types of lube on them, Lee Liquid Alox (LLA), a mixture of LLA, Johnson's Paste Wax, and mineral spirits called 45/45/10, and some TAC. This was my first try with both LLA and 45/45/10, have used and been happy with TAC in the past.
Here's the data, some notes on the bottom....not everything was awesome
CCI500, 55gr Boolits, GC, Blue Dot, 2x Brass, COAL 1.381 - EA threaded barrel
Lee Liquid Alox
5.2gr Hi 1471, Lo 1419, Av 1443, ES 52 - No Pressure, clean neck
5.4gr Hi 1563, Lo 1499, Av 1531, ES 64 - No Pressure
5.6gr Hi 1620, Lo 1579, Av 1597, ES 41 - Slight primer flow
5.8gr Hi 1675, Lo 1638, Av 1656, ES 37 - Medium primer flow (Less than 197)
Primers just starting to show flattening
45/45/10
5.2gr Hi 1522, Lo 1403, Av 1465, ES 119 - No Pressure, One boolit sideways
5.4gr Hi 1633, Lo 1534, Av 1573, ES 99 - Very slight primer flow
5.6gr Hi 1610, Lo 1557, Av 1590, ES 53 - Same as 5.4
5.8gr Hi 1689, Lo 1585, Av 1647, ES 104 - Same as 5.4
RandyRat TAC Lube
5.2gr Hi 1622, Lo 1452, Av 1563, ES 170 - Slight primer flow
5.4gr Hi 1602, Lo 1516, Av 1561, ES 86 - Slight primer flow
5.6gr Hi 1666, Lo 1559, Av 1629, ES 107 - Slight primer flow, recoil higher than 197
5.8gr Hi 1683, Lo 1652, Av 1668, ES 31 - Medium primer flow, brass landed 5 feet closer
SS197 Hi 1731, Lo 1713, Av 1722, ES 18
As you can see
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc519/ThaDoubleJ/Leonidas%20and%20Ultralight/Sideways%20Bullet_zpsvmrxmpbw.jpg
One early boolit hit the target sideways, from 7 yards away. About 30% of them exhibited some form of keyholing, though never as bad as the one above.
I'm a pretty mediocre caster, my lead melter is probably too cold, so my guess right now is that my bases are crooked, meaning my gas checks are crooked, meaning my boolits come out crooked.
Some things I learned:
Do not lube with TAC prior to seating the gas checks, they won't seat properly, and the boolits won't seat in the case mouths properly.
This is the cheapest way you can shoot your 5.7, if you don't mind some keyholes, or you're a better caster than I am.
There was no leading at all in my barrel at any point during this testing.
Function was 99%, had one FTF, first round in the mag, maybe my fault.
TAC smells wonderful when you shoot it, LLA not so much.
This method of reloading takes forever.
If I was going to pursue this route, and I may, I'd get me a case mouth expander and a Lee factory crimp die, pretty tough getting those flat gas checks into the case mouths.
Accuracy was acceptable for plinking, you'd be on steel all day, even with the keyholes.