My new (to me) 1870 Swedish rolling block in .38-55

[marvelshooter]

Thought I would share a couple pictures of my new toy. I recently bought it off GunBroker. It is supposed to be a Swedish copy of a Remington number 1 made by Carl Gustav in 1870. It has been rebarreled to .38-55 at some point. The barrel is 26 1/2" long and round all except for the first couple of inches which is octagon. The bore slugs .377 and shines like a mirror. The barrel is serial numbered to the rest of the rifle. Who ever did it did nice work. The seller could not help with the history at all. I know these rolling blocks are not the strongest and I plan on shooting it with black powder only.
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[Freightman]

nice have fun

[Frank46]

Our resident expert "The Dutchman" has well established a maximum of 28,000 psi for the Danish and Swedish rolling blocks. So keep that in mind as you develop loads for your 38-55 roller. Frank

[Boz330]

That looks like one of the 8MM Swedes that were updated in the early 1890s for higher pressure and should have no problems with BP pressure loads or the same in smokeless. I wouldn't try and hot rod it though.

Bob

[captaint]

MS - I keep coming back to this thread - just to look at your roller. That's really a pretty rifle. Now I want one. Gotta ask - what did it cost ya ?? Mike

[marvelshooter]

MS - I keep coming back to this thread - just to look at your roller. That's really a pretty rifle. Now I want one. Gotta ask - what did it cost ya ?? Mike
$595.00 shipped. Since it is an antique it was shipped direct to me. First time I have done that. The vernier sight was not included.

[rbertalotto]

You stole it! Nice !

[Bigslug]

Does anybody here have any thoughts or comments?

Ummmm. . .you suck and I hate you?:kidding:

Do a pure lead pound cast and send it to LBT with your thoughts on intended use. Veral did a 275 grain gas check flat point for a frosted out 1885 my father brought home and the accuracy has been amazing by any standard. We just got a 300 grain plain base spitzer from him for a faster-twist(1-18") target Ballard. He narrowed the nose to allow longer seating and more powder. We haven't poured into this one yet, but confidence is high. Suffice to say, Veral understands the .38-55.

[craig61a]

Yeah those are fun. I have two in 8x58R.

[mazo kid]

I have one stamped with the 1867 date and was sporterized by GECO, Berlin. About all I know is that the company specialized in sporterizing military rifles between the two world wars. Anyone have anything to add? Oh, Mine is VERY close to 38-55 but I have to cut the length a bit. How close is 38-55 to 8mm?

[marvelshooter]

How close is 38-55 to 8mm?
Not very. My bore slugs .377 and 8mm is about .315 diameter.

[mazo kid]

How about case length?

[marvelshooter]

How about case length?
The 8x58R case measures about 2.270 inches long. The .38-55 has two commonly encountered lengths. 2.080 and 2.125 inches long. There is another thread about this running on this forum right now: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?268897-8x58R-from-45-90-brass

[Boz330]

They make 8X58R cases from stretched 45-70 so you can't easily re-bore and rifle the barrel.

Bob

[leadman]

That is a great looking RB. It is a 1867 model made in 1870. I have one also in 8X58RD.
Boz330 helped me get it shooting by selling me some brass and dies.

[Boz330]

Here is what I did with mine. Pulled the 8MM barrel and installed a Douglas 40-65 barrel and Treebone wood.

Bob

[blackbahart]

Boz330 that is goregous wood ! Well executed project

[Boz330]

I was very happy with it.

Bob