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JD74
01-29-2015, 06:01 PM
From what I can tell its a Hensley Gibbs 130bb, 6 cavity iron mold. Needs a good cleaning that I can see.
With the range lead I use to cast I get 197.5gr and .451 so its a 45cal swc design.
Trying to come up with a price, don't want to pay more then its worth but also don't want to rob the old lady blind either. There are a couple more molds but she would only let me take 1 at a time to check on.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128961&d=1422567936
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128962&d=1422568020
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128965&d=1422568371

ascast
01-29-2015, 06:07 PM
that ooghtta bring a $100 bill any day the rust is no biggy, but it there and will take time to clean off

SSGOldfart
01-29-2015, 06:11 PM
yep some where around a $100 to $150 be real careful removing that rust and /crud,a wirebrush will kill a piece of art like that. :p What would you take for it?

JD74
01-29-2015, 06:26 PM
This is going in my collection and possible the others if I can get a good deal on them.
I still need to test cast and see if I can find info on the others.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128966&d=1422570216
upper is hensely gibbs some sort of swc yet to be cast with to verify wagering 45 cal
lower is saeco 44 mag keith style. weight unknown until cast with or more researched
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128967&d=1422570242
This is a NEI 586 780 guessing some kind of shotgun slug okay its not a shotgun slug its boolit for a 577 nitro don't see that being in the safe anytime soon.

thanks for every ones input hopefully I can get them all for a good price

ascast
01-29-2015, 06:33 PM
bottom one is a saeco i'd bet

ssnow
01-29-2015, 11:41 PM
Agree with Ascast, the bottom mold (in the picture with two differing molds) is a Saeco........Good mold, but not an H&G :)

There is a 4 cavity #130 on E-Bay right now, with a starting bid of 75.00, with a Buy it Now price of 120.00 (no bids yet)

I would agree with the guys that the mold is easily worth 100.00. I'd probably go as high as 150.00 if I needed that particular design.

Bigslug
01-30-2015, 08:09 AM
I'd start by dropping a $50 bill on the table and see if she picks it up. It may be your treasure, but there's nothing wrong with exploiting the fact that it's another man's junk.

I've got an understanding with my local gun shop - when the old loading and casting supplies and lead from the garages of the deceased comes in with a bunch of guns, my phone rings. They pretty much don't want to bother with the sorting, the researching, the pricing, or the hoping it will sell. We are living in the truly arcane, obscure, and nerdy side of the shooting world. The typical shop staff doesn't understand our stuff, and neither do most of their customers. They make their money on the guns, I usually make out for pennies on the dollar, and everybody's happy.

bhn22
01-30-2015, 11:09 AM
There's going to be a lot of work involved in cleaning these rusty moulds. That needs to be factored into your offer as well. I personally wouldn't get over $75.00 (max) in the H&G, about the same in the SAECO 4 cavity, and perhaps $40.00 in the single cavity mould, if that. The H&G 130 simply doesn't have the demand that the H&G 68 does, and people do not seem to be paying top dollar for moulds right now.

dragon813gt
01-30-2015, 11:25 AM
The rust removal will be easy if you use Evaporust. Doesn't get any easier then wrapping the mold in an Evaporust impregnated towel and putting it in an airtight container. No worries about damaging the mold in the process.

duckey
01-30-2015, 12:01 PM
Naval Jelly (by locktite) will clean that rust off! Nice moulds.

Echo
01-30-2015, 02:14 PM
Submerge the mold (with handles) into a large jar of Evaporust, leave it for a couple of hours, maybe 3 or 4, check it, if needing more, do it, and the setup will look GREAT!

JD74
01-30-2015, 05:23 PM
got all 4 for a dang good price will get them cleaned up and all the info correct for each mold. Powder coated and loaded up 100 rounds of the hg130 guys at the range loved them cycled and feed great in 5 different 1911's, funny how no one had anything else in 45 acp when I was there.

starreloader
01-30-2015, 05:40 PM
I have had an H&G 130BB in an 8-cav for 30+years... That bullet style has never failed to feed in any of the 5 or so 1911 45 Auto pistols that I own... It is a great shooting bullet, used it for competition for many years... Clean it is up easy, it will serve you well for many years.

JD74
01-30-2015, 11:01 PM
well here's what I've found on the moulds so far.
here they are all nice and clean again. no major pits
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129135&d=1422722581

Saeco #444 .430 228gr pb
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129133&d=1422722490

Hensley & Gibbs 521.431s .430 254gr gc
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129134&d=1422722553

NEI 586 780 things a beast but casts nicely measures 1.245 tall .586 dia. weighs in at 785grains.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129066&d=1422660178

CHeatermk3
01-30-2015, 11:29 PM
NEI 586 780 things a beast but casts nicely measures 1.245 tall .586 dia. weighs in at 785grains"

You might could try that in a 12ga hull with shot cup and star crimp--I have cast 58 cal minies outta 50/50 WW/Pb and shot them with good accuracy(3" @ 30 yds) out of my short barrel pump m500... shooting them in a duplicate load for 1-1/8 birdshot had them penetrating 14" of a 30" dia Doug fir round lengthwise at 30 yds. and make a divot in the gravel it was setting on.

leadman
01-31-2015, 01:12 PM
There is a guy named Hayley in Texas that might be interested in the NEI mold if he doesn't already have it. Hayley's Custom Ammunition, 940-888-3352.
He makes ammo and boolits for all kinds of obsolete firearms.

SSGOldfart
01-31-2015, 01:35 PM
The rust removal will be easy if you use Evaporust. Doesn't get any easier then wrapping the mold in an Evaporust impregnated towel and putting it in an airtight container. No worries about damaging the mold in the process.

Yep or dropping it into a coffee can full of EVAPO-rust,then 3 or 4hours later wash with dawn dish soap then heat her up with hot water and hand dry I'd oil it lightly and heat her up again this time in the oven,next lay it on top of your lead pot,You know what to do from here good luck.I cleaned up a couple 10gang molds that were rusted shut after hurricane Katrina. I was given the molds out of a trash pile.just junk to the own a real prize to me!!!