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shooterbob
01-29-2015, 02:34 PM
Got two 1933 pacific's today for 10.00 They are frozen up. Any thoughts to how to loosen them up?

kenyerian
01-29-2015, 04:27 PM
PB Blaster should work. Keep soaking them down. Might take a couple of days. Or if it is really bad try evapo-rust. http://www.evapo-rust.com/

Sweetpea
01-29-2015, 04:38 PM
Kroil should do it.

Ed's red, if you have it.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
01-29-2015, 05:37 PM
Good advice given above. Good buy. I'd unfreeze them, clean them up, polish and repaint them and use them to my heart's content.

Nueces
01-29-2015, 09:53 PM
Keep feeding them with Kroil or Ed's Red as you heat them with a heat gun or hair dryer. Do this several times a day until they start to move.

too many things
01-29-2015, 10:16 PM
if they have the old ram that don't use shell holders Scrap them

Sweetpea
01-29-2015, 10:59 PM
if they have the old ram that don't use shell holders Scrap them

No No No No NO!!!

There are replacement rams available!!!

Char-Gar
01-29-2015, 11:46 PM
if they have the old ram that don't use shell holders Scrap them

That is ridiculous. Those old solid rams are very usable and newer ones are available that use the removable shell holders made by RCBS, Lee and others.

Char-Gar
01-29-2015, 11:49 PM
1933 is the patent date. Both those presses were made after WWII. There is a boss on the top to accept automatic primer feed device which was added until after the war. Those are the standard C model, probably made in the late 40's or early 50's. These are very good reliable machines and well worth getting back into action.

shooterbob
01-30-2015, 01:11 AM
Cool thanks for the info guys. One freed up today with breakfree and the other us still tight. What would one search under for the replacement rams and such?

Char-Gar
01-30-2015, 08:48 AM
Cool thanks for the info guys. One freed up today with breakfree and the other us still tight. What would one search under for the replacement rams and such?

Ebay........Pacific reloading

Wayne Smith
01-30-2015, 08:53 AM
I think Dave has them at CH4D.

BDJ
01-30-2015, 03:50 PM
CH4D had them earlier this past fall. Seen them on a shelf, I was picking up a new powder measure.

https://www.ch4d.com/products/equipment/presses/412090

troyboy
01-30-2015, 06:00 PM
Clean the exposed section of ram with emory paper before retracting or you will score the bore.

AZ Pete
01-30-2015, 06:11 PM
CH4D has a universal c press ram that should do

gwpercle
01-30-2015, 08:38 PM
I got a large disposable aluminum pan, like the kind for roasting turkey, molded it to conform to shape of press and poured in enough penetrating oil to get up to the unmoving parts. You do have to buy a gallon but I reuse it for soaking rusty parts. Soak and turn press until things loosen up.
Have done the same thing with handguns and smaller pans.
Gary

GOPHER SLAYER
01-30-2015, 08:57 PM
Bob, I have found that nothing works better than Liquid Wrench for the type of problem you have. Also I have a box of those rams somewhere in my shop.

GP100man
02-01-2015, 12:07 PM
Mix dextron ATF with acetone & soak in covered pan/dish to keep the acetone as long as possible.

4oz. acetone to 1 qt. ATF will work , the more acetone the qwiker it`ll go .

I`ve left PB blaster for this on rusty/stuck bolts for a few yrs. now.

MaryB
02-02-2015, 12:35 AM
Like the old Pacific presses, think this one is about 30 years old

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/maryalanab/2013-04-13_17-34-49_465_zpsece2b90f.jpg

Three44s
02-03-2015, 10:38 PM
MaryB,

I think your Pacific shotshell press is more than 30 years old.

I have a red Pacific of the same basic model and it's at least 30 years old as far as I know.

The blue press preceeded the red on I have as Hornady told they still supported the red ones.

Three 44s

bhn22
02-03-2015, 10:47 PM
Soak them in a bucket of diesel fuel.

ascast
02-03-2015, 10:52 PM
Is this Pacific really Dietemeyer? PAcific bought them out and changed the color and sticker?

1989toddm
02-04-2015, 02:00 AM
Got two 1933 pacific's today for 10.00 They are frozen up. Any thoughts to how to loosen them up?

I'll take one off your hands for $5!! :kidding::bigsmyl2:

MaryB
02-04-2015, 02:39 AM
Could be, dad gave it to me and I do not remember when he got it. I have had it about 20 years. Need to call Hornady and get a new pawl to advance the shell plate, mine is worn out.


MaryB,

I think your Pacific shotshell press is more than 30 years old.

I have a red Pacific of the same basic model and it's at least 30 years old as far as I know.

The blue press preceeded the red on I have as Hornady told they still supported the red ones.

Three 44s

Pablo 5959
02-06-2015, 11:18 PM
I soaked mine in diesel for a week.
Then used heat to losen it up.
http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u543/Pablo5959/image_zps56e80eb0.jpg (http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/Pablo5959/media/image_zps56e80eb0.jpg.html)
then electricuted the parts with arm and hammer detergent over night to draw away the rust.

http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u543/Pablo5959/image_zps3f32a17f.jpg (http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/Pablo5959/media/image_zps3f32a17f.jpg.html)

I use it for sizing and decaping.
I wish I would have known about the replacement ram.
That would have save me a bit of filing to get it to accept a shell holder.
Pablo

Pressman
02-07-2015, 07:41 AM
Pablo that looks good. Nice to see a badly misused press returned to life. Yours is a Super, made in the very early 1950's. Its blue color is not by Dietemeyer but a so far undocumented effort by Pacific to use "consumer" colors. Black is the original but blue, OD green orange and yellow were made in both Standard and Super models. Curiously the Standard's I have seen have a slightly different frame.

Ken

Hamish
02-07-2015, 09:18 AM
if they have the old ram that don't use shell holders Scrap them

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http://www.opticsplanet.com/rcbs-shell-holder-ram-h-9180.html

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
02-07-2015, 09:23 AM
I have 2 of these that need some TLC too. Same shape, but one is slightly larger than the other. I assume one is the standard and the other is the super model?

RogerDat
02-07-2015, 12:26 PM
Heat causes flow and expansion, cooling contraction. I have found using a heat gun or in some cases propane torch then quenching with breakfree or wd-40 will help pull the lubricant in as the heat recedes and the expansion and contraction also helps break things free.


IMPORTANT! the fumes or steam from quenching with lubricant are a flammable cloud! Will go woosh/boom if you don't remove the torch from the area before quenching. Found out the hard way working to free some large bolts under a school bus once, set the torch down beside me and sprayed, was about like lighting a gas oven after the oven filled up with gas. Torch behind me was no problem.

richhodg66
02-07-2015, 12:37 PM
if they have the old ram that don't use shell holders Scrap them

I needed a second press for a while that I have since sold to a member here, it was Pacific and made of aluminum, so was kinda rare I guess. ANyway, an older gentleman sold me a box of about three dozen of the old style rams for just a few bucks, most still had the original tags on them. I needed to keep a pair of snap ring pliers by the press, but it didn't take a whole lot longer to change out rams than normal shell holders once you get the hang of it and the old rams work just fine. Truthfully, the .30-06 head size one and the .38 SPecial sized one took care of most of my reloading anyway.

I sure wouldn't let those old style ram/shell holders stop me if it was otherwise a good deal. Sounds like you made out pretty well for $10. A little time in some penetrating oil and some other cleaning (evapor rust is goos stuff, just soak it a lot longer than the directions say to) and you'll have two very good presses.