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konsole
01-24-2015, 01:58 PM
Here is what these weights are...

- you should find an average of 3-5 per bucket
- not magnetic and not steel (another forum lumped them in with steel)
- almost all are very hard (zinc), with some being very being soft like lead
- roughly 50% are labeled "weight" "F" which have "Zn" weakly stamped on the back
- the other 50% do not have the "F" and do not have a "Zn" stamp
- If you compare an "F" version and a "non-F" version that has the same weight, they are the same volume, so even the "non-F" ones appear to be zinc
- all the zincs are painted silver color
- the lead ones arent painted and can be pinched with plyers
- there might be plastic versions of it, but those would be very light

The top 2 are zinc, and on the bottom you can see the lead weight...
http://s18.postimg.org/utl7xllux/DSCF1693.jpg

wrench man
01-25-2015, 02:23 AM
Those are Kraut weights, seen TONS of them, my dad used to work for the VW dealer, IIRC? some of them are ceramic?, there is a seperate clip that holds them to the wheel.

WHITETAIL
01-25-2015, 10:23 AM
Thanks, we learn something new every day.:coffeecom

konsole
01-25-2015, 11:37 AM
Those are Kraut weights, seen TONS of them, my dad used to work for the VW dealer, IIRC? some of them are ceramic?, there is a seperate clip that holds them to the wheel.

Nothing shows up online for "Kraut weights" ? Also wouldnt ceramic be too prone to cracking and breaking off?

I'll have to get muriatic acid to know for sure if the top 2 are zinc.

Here are the 2 different versions of the same weight. I'm wondering if these 2 go together in the set?. The dimensions and overall design is close enough between the 2 that the top one being marked zinc I think makes it obvious that the non-marked one on the bottom is zinc also.
http://s29.postimg.org/adc38hzdj/DSCF1699.jpg

41cal
01-25-2015, 01:49 PM
Kraut weights, translates to German!! :-P

geargnasher
01-25-2015, 01:55 PM
Yes, German Engineering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Dx9MhrqcE

Gear

mold maker
01-25-2015, 03:17 PM
Simplest way is just bite them with pliers. If soft enough to easily mark, their lead. If not, drag them across a magnet. If they stick,(the weight, not the clip) their F (iron/steel), If they don't stick, their zinc.
It's much faster than trying to read the dirty weights, and more accurate to boot.
The same is true for the stick on weights. Just pinch them with the pliers. The soft lead marks easy, but the zinc/iron wont.
Spending excess time separating weights is a waste. Looking for obscure markings, on dirty weights, is a total waste.

ubetcha
01-25-2015, 04:51 PM
Yes, German Engineering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Dx9MhrqcE

Gear

Both wrench man and Gear are correct. Weights come from VW,s or similar vehicles. There is a small clip that goes over the center recessed area that hold them to the rim

konsole
01-25-2015, 06:23 PM
They're not magnetic so not steel, not easily pinched/marked so they're not lead. Zinc is the most likely answer but muriatic acid would confirm that.

Yodogsandman
01-27-2015, 08:13 PM
Couldn't just the #15's be lead? It looks like they crimped in the pliers.

konsole
01-27-2015, 09:45 PM
I dont know what your talking about with #15, but yes I said the one on the bottom in the first picture is lead.

Yodogsandman
01-27-2015, 10:30 PM
I guess I was thinking of another thread, the bottom one looks like it's marked "10". That's the one.

JWFilips
01-27-2015, 10:48 PM
OH....... Strap on: I think you may be on the wrong forum:p

wrench man
01-28-2015, 01:14 AM
The #'s on them are their weight in grams, the tire balancer I have at work will weigh in oz to .05 or grams to 1, but I don't see itty bitty weights like these very often?

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx190/ramblerinternational/brakes024.jpg (http://s754.photobucket.com/user/ramblerinternational/media/brakes024.jpg.html)

konsole
01-28-2015, 10:25 AM
I guess I was thinking of another thread, the bottom one looks like it's marked "10". That's the one.

The lead weight on the bottom is probably a 30. Lead is a little less then 2x the weight of zinc, so a 30 zinc weight would be a little less then 2x the size of a 30 lead weight. (Technically lead is 1.59x heavier).

Rally
02-24-2015, 02:09 AM
I just sorted about 50# I got out of Canada today. I found some that looked just like that and were coated in a "plastic" paint with steel inside them. They would draw to the magnet very slightly that I use while sorting. I also found a couple that had a light paint coating but pure ZN.
I'm assuming the coatings are to keep from scratching ornamental rims and to avoid chemical corrosion transfer from road salts. Seemed to be way more zinc and steel in the Canadian mix than I'm used to. The local tire dealers tell me that in 2016 lead wheel weights can no longer be used in Mn.

dikman
02-24-2015, 06:15 AM
My recent effort sorting WW came up with many that looked like those except that a clip was riveted on using the two holes. Both the steel and zinc looked very similar and I reckon Rally might be right about a protective coating. I found the best way to test them was to use the point of my cutters and scrape it across the weight. It barely scratched the steel and zinc but of course happily gouged the lead.

I had a much higher percentage of steel/zinc in the stick-ons than in the clip-ons.