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TES
01-19-2015, 06:49 PM
So I loaded up some .45 acp with cast swc to spec and used starting data only to see my FPS's way to high.

1.225 oal
Bullet Dia. 4515 - .452
Bullet weights avg. 204 grains
5.8 grains Comercial #1 / universal data used / #1 data is the same starting load 5.8 grains.
All powder charges are hand weighed.
Light (very light) crimp just enough for it to slide into a chamber checker.
I checked for push back and col is same after cycling the ammo so no head spacing issues.

Velocities should be between 889 - 962 FPS

What I got was

lo - 1410
high - 2185
avg - 1670

2185
1442
1410
1451
1828
1474
1897

Yes there were signs of over pressure so I do not think it was a faulty reading on the chrony.

Have I missed something? [smilie=b:

Thanks,

TES

marvelshooter
01-19-2015, 06:54 PM
Something is wrong with your chronograph. You may be a little over pressure but you are not shooting a 200 grain swc any where near 2000 fps out of a 1911.

TES
01-19-2015, 06:59 PM
When I saw 2185 I nearly crapped my pants and stopped shooting. Because the 9mm string I got before the .45 string was spot on....I don't get it. The light conditions did get a little darker than when I started shooting but I don't see how that would affect the speeds so much. However the last strings I tried to shoot would not register at all.

35remington
01-19-2015, 07:21 PM
Given 2000 fps loads would probably blow case heads and wreck the gun completely, there's no doubt your chrono is not working right.

5.7 MAN
01-19-2015, 08:46 PM
Change your battery and/or increase the distance between you and the chronograph.

JRR
01-21-2015, 02:59 PM
Does your chronograph have a metric function? 2000 fps divided by 2.54 = 787.40 fps. I might have my ft/metric conversion messed up. Perhaps you hit the wrong button on the chrony.

Char-Gar
01-21-2015, 04:09 PM
Frankly, I am surprised you needed to ask this question. If you did indeed have a load that was running between 1,400 fps and 2,000 fps, you would have would have a damaged if not destroyed handgun.

TES
01-21-2015, 05:06 PM
Frankly, I am surprised you needed to ask this question. If you did indeed have a load that was running between 1,400 fps and 2,000 fps, you would have would have a damaged if not destroyed handgun.

I have experienced odd things with chrony's before but never consistently like this. I would maybe get a 2500 fps and then the others where spot on. But the whole string kinda threw me a bit. I was just trying to see if anyone else experienced this before and if they could help. Or if I in fact did something horribly wrong. Never hurts to ask.

CPL Lou
01-26-2015, 02:46 PM
I would replace the battery, then try again.
Pressure = Velocity, all things considered.

CPL Lou

orrwdd
01-26-2015, 05:51 PM
Did you make sure that the chrono was AT LEAST 10ft from the muzzle? If closer, muzzle blast could interfere with the readings. I am not familiar with Commercial #1 powder, but 5.8 sounds a little hot.

Bill

TES
01-27-2015, 12:31 PM
It uses the same data for universal. Every caliber I have tested using universal data has been spot on....probably just a chrony issue.