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Huvius
01-10-2015, 10:03 PM
I finally decided to try swaging some boolits using a variety of reloading dies and molds I happen to have on hand.
Ultimately, I would like to make a .458" using 45ACP brass without trimming.
This is my first try at this, and I don't have my ejector dialed in yet so the tips are a little knarfed up.
The lead slug is 365gr from a paper patch mold, sized to .451", placed nose first into the annealed ACP case and pressed in using a 38spl die. Any smallbore die would work fine but I happened to have the 38 die in the press as I was first trying to press the core in base first. The die helps keep the core straight by riding on the ogive of the cast boolit/core but the square base of the core was blowing out the lower part of the brass. I figured that having the ogive at the bottom of the ACP brass not only eases the core insertion but doesn't enlarge the base either.

After pressing in the core, I pushed the brass up into an 8mm Mauser fls die as my first step in the squeeze down.

Then I pressed the case up into a 243Win. fls die to form the shoulder on the lead tip.
Using the 243 die, most of the case is sized under .458" but the rim is .458" and the base tapers from there.
I think lapping out the 243 die would be a good idea to make more of the final boolit .458" and then final sizing through a push through die. As it is, it would be something of a bore-riding boolit so who knows if it would work at all.
The core was 365gr and the final weight is 448gr but the ACP brass I had on hand was deprimed so a primed case may make it right at 450gr or so.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/57684517-4ED0-4C31-B93C-1A337251FFDF.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/57684517-4ED0-4C31-B93C-1A337251FFDF.jpg.html)


For giggles, I loaded one into a .458 Win Mag case as a dummy round.
This is fun stuff here!
Very glad I found this site!!

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/3E5F399D-454E-4013-8484-5BB96924B1AC.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/3E5F399D-454E-4013-8484-5BB96924B1AC.jpg.html)

blaser.306
01-10-2015, 10:12 PM
Is it just my eyes, or do the 45 ACP brass seem too long and skinny ? Maybe just the angle they are photographed on!

Huvius
01-10-2015, 10:32 PM
It is long and skinny.. Squeezing does that...
The original brass was .477"+/- and the final projectile is down to .458" or smaller.
It is amazing what you can do with old dies and a decent press!
Here is a before and after.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/28B0F3FD-2054-42B1-AC9C-675497BFD06C.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/28B0F3FD-2054-42B1-AC9C-675497BFD06C.jpg.html)

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
01-10-2015, 10:39 PM
Lookin good! How many draws did that take?

blaser.306
01-10-2015, 10:40 PM
Kida what I was thinking after I had made the original "***"umption. Looks good and should be real thumpers when they go down range

Huvius
01-10-2015, 11:05 PM
Lookin good! How many draws did that take?

One of them worked with just one press in each die.
Most, however, seemed to get jammed in the 8mm die early on and I popped them out and lubed a bit more and then got them to go. Also, my bench isn't the sturdiest around. I bet with a strong, stable bench, one pass in each die would be easily doable.
I need to look at case dimensions of a lot of cartridges and come up with a better process with more gradual steps.
If I had a longer ram, I think a .375H&H die would be helpful.

Huvius
02-10-2015, 07:37 PM
Well, here are the results!
Not chronographed but did load with 54grs IMR4198
I honestly think this is as good accuracy as any factory boolit I have used.
50yds. Open sights off bags.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/Huvius/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/CA53CB84-4B6E-4BD6-85AF-86BF220856AC.jpg (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/Huvius/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/CA53CB84-4B6E-4BD6-85AF-86BF220856AC.jpg.html)

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
02-10-2015, 08:41 PM
That's great! Very well done!

rolltide
02-10-2015, 08:51 PM
Wow, you can't argue with that. Great work, great photos, and thanks for sharing all your hard work.

Roll Tide