Issues with NEI Moulds

[MOA]

I had these guys make up one of their moulds (.366-304-CG). Have not been able to get them to tell me what size gas check is suppose to fit on it. The rebated base measures out at .3365 to .3375. Anyone out there have a clue as to what caliber gas check these should take?
Their site has a link to the folks whom are suppose to be an outlet for gas checks for their products, but good luck and getting anyone to answer the phone or email, send them one over two weeks ago, called again today no answer.

I doubt that I will ever do business with these folks again, I have ten or fifteen moulds from Lyman and some from RCBS, I doubt I will waste my money or time dealing with this mickey mouse company again. It may have been a good business that took care of its customers when the owner was alive, but the bozo they got working it now I do not have time or patience for them.:mad:


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[dkf]

There is some sizing for Gator checks in the link below. Maybe the .358 cal Gator check would work.

http://www.lasc.us/CheckShankSize.htm


A thread with check sizes.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?86706-Blammer-s-Gas-Check-Information

[Fishman]

Check out the Night Owl Enterprises site (NOE) here:
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php9?cPath=36&products_id=734&osCsid=un9f6l5rav46juha9gbmftvvs3

The drawing of their 9.3 design has a tapered check shank from .334 to .340. On the left column you will see a gas check link. Click it and the last size listed is 9.3. That is the size that design was made for according to the designer. Your design from NEI has a similar shank size it appears. The checks are out of stock but if you join the site and make a request for restock, I'd bet Swede will accomodate. He's awesome. I have that mould and checks and both look great. I haven't tried to seat any as I have yet to get a sizer die from Buckshot on this site.

Edit: the above link won't work. Try this one:
http://www.noebulletmoulds.com/NV/
And click on the 9.3 moulds link in the left column. Select the rg2 or rg4 mould with a gas check to see the shank measurement.

[Blammer]

I believe the 9.3 gas checks will work, if not the 375 cal GC's may be close enough.

I may have some 9.3's I'll have to check.

blammersboard.com

yep $29 per 1,000

or I could send out a few samples for cost of a stamp for you to try OR

send me 2-3 cast bullets and I'll try them out here for you and let you know.

Darrell

[dragonrider]

At one time I Had that mold, I use Hornady 375 gas checks.

[MOA]

Blammer, PM sent.

[MOA]

Fishman, looks like the R2 will likely work.

Who's sizer die is used for the .368 sizing?

[MOA]

I tried some 375's I had from rcbs for my 375 win, no go, too big

[Fishman]

Fishman, looks like the R2 will likely work.

Who's sizer die is used for the .368 sizing?

Contact "Buckshot" on this forum if you need a Lyman style or lee style die. I must confess that I have not followed through after contacting him a couple months ago, but the price was very reasonable and many others have used his services with complete satisfaction. He is a long time member of this forum.

This is a good reminder to me to get off my duff and order my die!

JT

[MOA]

I sent Buckshot a PM earlier, waiting to hear back from him.

[WALLNUTT]

I used to use .358 gas checks on an old NEI 9.3. Can't say for sure about current NEI molds.

[9.3X62AL]

Gas check shank size for 9.3mm caliber has been maker-dependant........some use 35 caliber checks, others use 375 caliber checks. My Mountain Molds tool specs a 375 check, and has worked well to 2200 FPS. 270 grains stepping out at 2200 lets you know that the primers functioned. Accuracy at that speed has been on the order of 1.5"-2.0" at 100 yards. Not world-class, but .366" isn't a varmint caliber either.

[MOA]

Problem is, maker wil not respond, and their link to the 2nd party they refer you to for checks wil not respond either!:mad:


As far as I am concerned you couldn't give me free moulds from NEI.

[Chill Wills]

Hmmm, same service I got from the son in law. Same opinion I have of the son in law.
Now Walt - he and his moulds were great! I miss the old - real - NEI
There are however, some really good mould makes that have shown up lately. I give them my business.

[MOA]

Hmmm, same service I got from the son in law. Same opinion I have of the son in law.
Now Walt - he and his moulds were great! I miss the old - real - NEI
There are however, some really good mould makes that have shown up lately. I give them my business.


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[9.3X62AL]

I have 3 of Walt's moulds and 1 made after his passing. That latter tool is a good one, but the chorus of complaints heard about NEI's customer service has shied me away from further such experiments. There are other makers whose tools I use--Accurate, NOE, and Mountain Molds--whose tools are quite good and who do a fine job of customer service. There is no need to put up with poor customer service.

[LynC2]

I also have a few of Walt's molds that are excellent. When I lived in El Paso I was able to drive to his shop, bs with him awhile and go back the same week and pick up a new mold. I didn't know then how well off I was. The new ones I've seen and heard about from others seldom are as good. With NOE, Accurate and others making excellent molds there is no reason to purchase another one either.

[MOA]

the non update update. Sent the mould back to NEI the latter part of December, have not heard a peep from them at all.:(

[9.3X62AL]

The other mould makers listed here are so decent and customer-oriented, I would refer to them for further such business. Buckshot is a straight shooter too, for the odd-sized sizer dies. He often shoots on Tuesdays, but is real good on E-mail returns and follow-up.

[BruceB]

I too have several NEI moulds.

All but one were bought used, and have a high likelihood of having been made before Walt died. All are good.

I ordered my 421-390 for the .404 Jeffery, two-cavity aluminum, well after Walt's demise. It was in my hands EIGHT DAYS after I telephoned the order to them.

It is also a quality item. It casts easily, and the bullets are round and precisely on-spec.

Happy customer here. However, it has been several years, and I keep hearing these stories.....

[MOA]

I too have several NEI moulds.

All but one were bought used, and have a high likelihood of having been made before Walt died. All are good.

I ordered my 421-390 for the .404 Jeffery, two-cavity aluminum, well after Walt's demise. It was in my hands EIGHT DAYS after I telephoned the order to them.

It is also a quality item. It casts easily, and the bullets are round and precisely on-spec.

Happy customer here. However, it has been several years, and I keep hearing these stories.....

Well I am happy that your moulds are working out for you BruceB. I can't speak for anyone else, but I get kinda impatient after about a month and not hearing anything. I don't like being put on hold if you know what I mean, don't want to order another mould from someone else until I have too, I am trying to give NEI the chance to fix this. I certainly will be looking at someone else for my next mould for my 400 Jeffery!

[Good Cheer]

I've had blocks recut to larger diameter designs with no complaints. Haven't ordered any brand new.

[9.3X62AL]

I tried some 375's I had from rcbs for my 375 win, no go, too big

Next time you are casting, float the 375 gas checks on top of the melt for a minute or so after you do your last fluxing. Snag 'em off with a pair of needle-nose pliers. This anneals them sufficiently to make them cooperate their way into a .367"-.369" sizer die. Hornady 375 checks vary in annealing amount--some are harder than others.

[MOA]

Wow, these guys really know customer service huh!!!

I sent Joel a message for an update on the mould I sent him for repairs at the end of December 2014. Here is his response the first part of Feb 2015. I have heard nothing from NEI or him since.https://blu178.mail.live.com/ol/clear.gifhttps://blu178.mail.live.com/ol/clear.gifhttps://blu178.mail.live.com/ol/clear.gif :mad:


I am just about ready to email them and have them send me the mould back so I can send it to someone else about the repairs, this business is a joke, and anyone who does business with them is wasting their money, sad,sad,sad.

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Something I need to study myself been really sickand my eyes areplaying tricks but will lookat it in the weekend. Any replacement willbe in iron nolongercarry alum

Thank you,
NEI Handtools
PO Box 370356
El Paso, TX 79937-0356

[Fishman]

I may have missed it but I'm not sure what issues you were having with the mould? I thought you just needed gaschecks.

[MOA]

Mould dropping boolits of incorrect size.

Dropping .363 to .364 instead of .368 or .369

[Fishman]

Yeah, that is no good for a 9.3 for sure. my mould from NOE for the 9.3 is dimensionally correct, so that might be a good option for you also. Night Owl Enterprises.

[youngmman]

Hmmm, same service I got from the son in law. Same opinion I have of the son in law.
Now Walt - he and his moulds were great! I miss the old - real - NEI
There are however, some really good mould makes that have shown up lately. I give them my business.

I cast my first bullets with an Accurate mold this weekend, simply put it is .................OUTSTANDING...........

Should you wish a first class mold-get one. I have not had need to try their customer service but I understand from others on this site that it is just as outstanding as the molds.

I hope this helps.

[MT Chambers]

There are so many good mold makers out there, too many to list(but I'll try): NOE, Accurate, Mountain, LBT, saeco, Lyman, RCBS, Miha, etc.......so there's no need to mess with the op's maker.

[country gent]

Also add Brooks and Old West moulds to the list