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shoot-n-lead
12-03-2014, 12:15 AM
Just bought a 44 2009 group buy Keith mold on the forum that I intend to use for a Marlin rifle. However, I have a bunch of 44 Special flattops and would like to shoot some of these bullets in one of them. The mold drops bullets around 265grs and my load for these guns is with a 250-255gr 429421 using Unique or HS6 and this load does everything that I NEED to do with the Special...but I would just like to try some mild loads with this new bullet to just see how it will shoot.

Reloading data in almost non-existent for this weight in the Special, so I was just wondering if any of y'all had done this before or if you might be able to point me in the right direction for some ideas about something to try.

Thanks

Ben
12-03-2014, 12:26 AM
Hate to sound dumb , but what exactly is a 44 2009 ?

Pics ?

If your new style bullet weighs 10-15 grains more, drop your current loads by 10%, you should be just fine.

Ben

shoot-n-lead
12-03-2014, 12:27 AM
Group buy in 2009...44 cal.

Yeah, that is what I was thinking...just wanted to see if someone would confirm my thoughts on it.

Thanks and I have already applied that new recipe lube to them...just waiting for the chance to launch them.

Ben
12-03-2014, 09:46 AM
Keep us posted.

Group buy in 2009...44 cal.
UUmmmm ? ?

Name doesn't tell anyone much about the style or shape or weight of the bullet.....reminds me of the Lee Precision naming system, must have been a " bean counter " that came up with that one also. Not too many people on here can tell you much about a Lee 90317 mold ? ?

I guess for the people who have a photographic memory and retain the specs. of a 2009 group buy in their mind, it is a great naming system..........

Ben

rintinglen
12-03-2014, 03:03 PM
I concur with advice given to just knock 10% off the suggested loads for 429-421 equivalent, Or else just use the starting load Data from the 3rd or 4th Lyman Manuals for the 429-244 and work up, staying a few tenths under max. As long as you stay with proven 44 Special load data, there is little danger of an overload. The SAAMI specs are deliberately on the low side in deference to the pre WWI S&Ws out there which did not have heat treated cylinders. Your Ruger Flat Top is plenty strong. Steer clear of the deliberate over loads (Elmer, Skeeter, et al) and you'll be shooting safely.

missionary5155
12-03-2014, 03:42 PM
Greetings
Years back I bought a NEI caliber .44 mold in 265 grain PB for use in a very fat throated Win 92. Worked nicely. If you do a little hunting around they show up still on the sales places. Mine is a 2 cavity. Drops 40-1 at .432 and WW at .435. Never got around to trying it in a 44 Special yet. Stopped at the 240 grainers made of range scrap at 950 fps propelled by Unique.
Mike in Peru