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hylander
11-25-2014, 06:37 PM
So I have been loading for the 30-06 with great success
Using NOE 202gr. and Lee 185gr. and getting Sub MOA.
Would these Boolits be a good choice for the .308

Also any pet loads you would like to share would be greatly appreciated.
Looking for Accuracy out to 300yds. for cast matches nocking down steel.

waco
11-26-2014, 10:50 PM
I like 2400 and SR4759 in the .308

cbrick
11-27-2014, 11:30 PM
SR 4759 is my normal powder in 308 for 180 & 200 gr bullets up to about 2000 fps. 18.0 to 20.0 gr works well. The 200 gr bullet groups opened up at 150 meters with 21.0 gr.

To answer your question, would those bullets be a good choice? Sure, should work well.

Rick

nemesisenforcer
11-28-2014, 12:02 AM
another vote for SR4759 get it while you can.

nemesisenforcer
11-28-2014, 12:03 AM
I use 2.5cc Lee dipper with 180 Lee round nose

MT Chambers
11-29-2014, 01:32 AM
I use 2.5cc Lee dipper with 180 Lee round nose
Is that Bullseye you're using?

hylander
11-30-2014, 11:32 PM
Thanks guys
Anyone use 4198, H-335 ? as I have plenty of these powders.
I do not want to use any fillers.
Looking to get around 1800 - 2000 FPS

hylander
12-02-2014, 04:49 AM
Thinking of 24 - 25 grains under a Lee 185
No filler.
Thoughts ?

pacomdiver
12-02-2014, 10:16 PM
you didn't say what twist 308 barrel its gonna be used in, unless its a 1-10 twist, they are probably too heavy to stabilize. with my 1-12, I can use up to 178g and with my 1-10, I can use up to 208g

hylander
12-02-2014, 10:43 PM
you didn't say what twist 308 barrel its gonna be used in, unless its a 1-10 twist, they are probably too heavy to stabilize. with my 1-12, I can use up to 178g and with my 1-10, I can use up to 208g

1:10 I beleive
Rifle stabilizes a 180 JSP fine.

robg
12-03-2014, 06:44 AM
160g or180g lead gas checked 18g 2400 works for me

hylander
12-03-2014, 02:27 PM
160g or180g lead gas checked 18g 2400 works for me

Been using 18.0 for the 30-06, but would like to switch to a powder that fills the case more.
However I do not want to use a filler.

robg
12-04-2014, 06:20 AM
trail boss seems to be the powder for bulk.some of the guys in my club swear by it ,and get good results.

1johnlb
12-04-2014, 06:43 AM
It can be done, but without filler and with your desired powders, your groups will most likely suffer.

Ben
12-04-2014, 08:32 AM
This remark isn't targeted at anyone in particular.

But......When people go to their keyboards and say " Well, you should use &$%*#@ powder with so many grains with a certain bullet ". Please don't accept my comments or anyone else's comments and go and throw that combination and put it in your firearm ( without doing your " home work " first ) .

Please double and triple check the load data with reputable sources.
I've seen many times here on this forum, load data offered that is dangerous and could not be validated when checked against a reliable load data manual (s) . When questioned , people said..." Oh, I guess I wrote down the wrong powder, or I guess I typed in the wrong charge weight. "

This is a wonderful sport, let's all be especially careful with what we read and use and what we might suggest to someone else to use.

Merry Christmas to all of you,

Ben

EdS
12-04-2014, 08:34 AM
I too am looking to select a mold specifically for my .308. I have the Lyman 31141, but wonder if there is a better choice for a hunting bullet that will keep its gas check in the neck of a .308 that is factory throated for J-word bullets? I will be very grateful for your mold suggestions. I'm OK on powder choices, thanks. -Ed

hylander
12-06-2014, 03:57 AM
This remark isn't targeted at anyone in particular.

But......When people go to their keyboards and say " Well, you should use &$%*#@ powder with so many grains with a certain bullet ". Please don't accept my comments or anyone else's comments and go and throw that combination and put it in your firearm ( without doing your " home work " first ) .

Merry Christmas to all of you,

Ben

Hey Ben, Good advice.
I never blindly accept anyone's advice without doing my homework and making sure it is safe.
But seeing what works for others gives me a good starting point.
Kinda like your lube recipe, I looked at all the home brews, took everything into account and
tried yours with just a slight tweak and I will never use anything else :drinks:

BruceB
12-06-2014, 04:24 AM
Ben's comments are fine and applicable.... AS LONG AS THERE IS RELIABLE DATA AVAILABLE.

It was the LACK of cast-bullet data that led me to start te the 13-page thread about cast bullets in the M1A... which just happens to be a .308. My intent was to create a body of practical data for use in gas-operated rifles, and the effort seems to have succeeded very well. Many members have told me that the data is working well in their rifles without problems.... particularly, without SAFETY problems.

With great caution... and considerable experience.... it is possible to strike out on our own, but DO NOT try it willy-nilly!

cbrick
12-06-2014, 08:23 AM
It was the LACK of cast-bullet data that led me to start te the 13-page thread about cast bullets in the M1A... which just happens to be a .308. My intent was to create a body of practical data for use in gas-operated rifles, and the effort seems to have succeeded very well. Many members have told me that the data is working well in their rifles without problems.... particularly, without SAFETY problems.

Understatement of the week there.

It's one of the better threads on this forum IMHO.

Rick

tomme boy
12-06-2014, 09:26 AM
I really like the 5744 powder for 308 and reduced loads. My 26" 1-10 twist 308 will put them into less than an inch at 100yds with a 200 gr LEE bullet and a 200 gr RCBS bullet. I use 21 grs and it runs 1850fps in my rifle. This is a relly low load according to Lymans book on lead bullets.

cbrick
12-06-2014, 10:36 AM
With great caution... and considerable experience.... it is possible to strike out on our own, but DO NOT try it willy-nilly!

Wise advice! It's the difference between an experienced handloader and a reloader. That distinction is years of experience.

Rick

Dthunter
12-06-2014, 10:31 PM
my 308win has a 1-12 twist and it shoots the 200grain Lyman 311299 around moa, and at extended ranges out to 500'ish the accuracy still hovers around 1.5-2 MOA. I wish I had my notes handy to give exact values! there is no reason that a 1-12 twist wont stabilise a 200 grain cast boolet. You have to experiment to find out what "your" rifle likes "BEST". Its all theory until you put it to paper. If its repeatable, Then its fact "for that rifle".

Lots of good info/advice on this thread!

jhalcott
12-09-2014, 01:23 PM
I have the .308 in 2 SHORT barreled handguns.an XP100 and a Lone Eagle. The 331041 and 311291 leave the check in the powder space. The 311466 and 467 CAN be seated out enough to keep the check in the neck. This depends on the chamber/throat of YOUR gun though! I have a Lee mold that drops a 185 grain pointy bullet that I have worked with in the .30-06, but not much in the .308. It APPEARS to be a 311334 with only one grease groove. I've been worried that MY .308's will not stabilize this long bullet. I think a winter project will be to SEE if it does work well in the .308/short barrel. Besides, I have a couple pounds of 4759 to use up!