Sig 220 in 10MM!

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

Anyone else excited that Sig is coming out with the 220 chambered in 10MM? Think it will take off? Think we will see the similar chambering in other models?

[Love Life]

I'd be a buyer if I could get one Single Action Only.

[5Shot]

Bruce Gray has been doing conversions for a while, so there is obviously a market.

[warboar_21]

I have always wanted a sig 220 and 10mm is my favorite auto pistol cartridge. So I will be putting some coin aside for this one.

[94Doug]

Me too. I've always wanted a 220, I've shot a few in .45. 10mm would seal that deal.

Doug

[5Shot]

I'd be a buyer if I could get one Single Action Only.

Looks like they will offer a SAO

[Deep Six]

Interesting. Been wanting a 10 for a while but the Delta is kinda pricey and I'm just not into glocks. Never really been a Sig guy either though. I'm still waiting for the FNX to be released in 10. I love my 45 version.

[nemesisenforcer]

Have to check into it.

Love my 220 in 45.

Looking into getting SAO version in either full size or carry.

[Love Life]

looks like they will offer a sao

yes!!!!!

[reed1911]

Sig is a little late to the party, but better late than never. Good news for sure.

[rosewood]

Gonna have to start saving my pennies. I love me some Sig and love the 10mm.

[timbuck]

http://para-usa.com/2013/firearms/elite/hunter.php
another option in 10mm. It does shoot nice and accurate.

[Love Life]

Hopefully this Sig will be able to eat a steady diet of full power 10mm loads and feed WFN boolits. If it will, then I have a bag of 1,000 starline brass already sized and trimmed and an 8lb jug of 800X for it.

From what I have found though is this won't be out in the near future. When it hits the streets initially it'll probably over priced when found.

[NavyVet1959]

Interesting. Been wanting a 10 for a while but the Delta is kinda pricey and I'm just not into glocks. Never really been a Sig guy either though. I'm still waiting for the FNX to be released in 10. I love my 45 version.

I have a G29 and G20, but I also have my eyes on a RIA 1911 in 10mm.

[rosewood]

Hopefully this Sig will be able to eat a steady diet of full power 10mm loads and feed WFN boolits. If it will, then I have a bag of 1,000 starline brass already sized and trimmed and an 8lb jug of 800X for it.

From what I have found though is this won't be out in the near future. When it hits the streets initially it'll probably over priced when found.

Hmm, hadn't thought about that. My P220 45 acp doesn't like cast boolits, but eats everything jacketed I have fed it. My P16-40 in 10mm eats the WFNs just fine though. That could be an issue.

[9.3X62AL]

Looks like all the announced variants will come on stainless steel receivers. SS is sterner stuff than the blue-steel P-220's aluminum alloy frame material. 10mm stresses are no joke.

I got out of the 10mm game a year or so ago. Changes in CCW regs at the old shop disallowed the caliber, so having it around eating casting alloy made little sense. Dunno if I'll re-up with the TenGun or not.

[DR Owl Creek]

I still really want one of the 227 double stack 45s. Guess the new 220 in 10mm will have to be number 2 on my short list.

Dave

[rintinglen]

For them's as likes 'em, more power to ya.
Although I like Sigs, I can not enthuse over the 10 mm. In my experience with an early Colt Delta Elite, I could not get groups to match my desires. As I recall, it would run 3-5 inches at 25 yards, sometimes a bit worse and rarely, just to taunt me, it would plunk 4 shots practically touching, only to return to its normal practice thereafter. It had a pronounced tendency to throw first round fliers and I found the recoil troubling. My right wrist would hurt after a box or two of hot 180 grain loads, much more so than it would after shooting a similar quantity of 44 magnums from my Red Hawk. I sold it off and have seen no need to tread that path again.
The 227, OTH, intrigues the heck out of me.

[9.3X62AL]

That P-227 does a lot of things right for Californians. It makes full use of all possible magazine space (10 rounds) without exceeding the State-mandated limit. I can see myself shedding some sheckels on one of these. I have pondered a P-226 in 40 S&W, but didn't want to risk frame-stressing the alloy receiver. 40 S&W pressure/back-thrust is no joke, either. I opted for a CZ-75B in 40 S&W. The P-227's gentler 45 ACP pressures seem like the best of all possible worlds for a receiver design originally suited to 9mm cartridges.

[MrBFR]

No interest in the 10mm or Sigs but for those that do, great, if they come out with it.

[PJP]

I picked up a Lipsey's two tone Sig 220R and I like the overall features and setup. Sa/Da version w/night sights 5.3 barrel, stainless with black slide. Haven't tested to many handloads yet but as usual, the Sig bore diameter is tight. I had a storm lake barreled Glock 20 that I ran 9gr. of longshot with Hornady xtp's but...this load is to warm for the Sig using mag primers. 9.5 is Hodgdons listed max load. It's accurate and the trigger is pretty good Sa and Da both. The sights on this version are well suited to older eyes read: a combat sight with sufficient light to see the sights well. It's not light, but soaks up recoil very well. Looks well put together...zero complaints here. a keeper....

[Lead Fred]

Well I guess not everyone can handle the 45 ACP

[Lloyd Smale]

id love one but just cant see laying out about twice what my glock 20 cost to have one.

[oger]

I have found my 220 in 10mm to be much closer to my Roland than a 45acp.

[leftiye]

Looks like they will offer a SAO

There's one on GB now.

[PJP]

I have the Sig 220 in 45 also, but it feels completely different (when fired) compared to the 10mm. Hotter 10mm loadings feel soft shooting and no doubt due to the all steel frame of the Sig 220R frame as compared to the alloy 220 45 frame. Even softer than my regular 1911.

[PJP]

I should mention, the Sig220R 10mm is accurate. This is 8.4 Ramshot Silhouette (old WAP, low flash powder), Starline brass, Winchester L.P. primer, Hornady 180gr. XTP chronographed at just over 1200 fps. Shot standing, I tried palming left edge trigger (1 shot), and right edge trigger (2 shots), then fired the rest of the magazine center trigger normally...25 yds weak hand mid forearm touching a post. Very accurate. I do the side pull trigger test to know worst case result if shooting under pressure, and trigger finger is not centered perfectly. My eyes are old and suck, ...but this new Sig makes it easy.

[saleen322]

I bought a P220 single action in 10mm. Accurate and a good looking pistol IMHO.

[saleen322]

The Sig 10mm does shoot well but only if I do my part (on a couple of shots I didn't!). This is cast GC that weighs out about 208 grains.

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt98/saleen322/Center%20Fire%20Pistol/Sig/Sig%2010mm-1_zpsmopspdes.jpg

[S. Galbraith]

Well I guess not everyone can handle the 45 ACP

The question is more of whether the pistol can handle the .45acp........let alone the 10mm. Since the P220 was originally a 9mm pistol, it has undergone some minor internal dimensional changes to convert it to shoot .45acp. The external dimensions of the P220 were not changed as to retain modularity between the 9mm, .38super, and .45acp calibers(small increase in slide mass at the rear of the slide). I've been using Sigs since the early 1990s, and have been working on about a dozen a year for my agency since then. The P220s in .45acp are without a doubt the most problematic Sigs in our inventory. As a duty pistol, I do not consider it to be a trustworthy firearm unless it receives constant attention from a dedicated armorer. In 10mm, I can't imagine that the P220 would run very long without parts failures. Hopefully I am wrong as the 10mm is a fantastic caliber.

[Fire_Medic]

id love one but just cant see laying out about twice what my glock 20 cost to have one.

This is my debate right now...........

I will soon have a smith 1006 as a range toy so looking for the carry and woods gun and for the price of the Sig or a DW or a Colt Delta I can get the G20 with an RMR.........

[saleen322]

I am very impressed with mine so far and it has the best case support I have ever seen on a 10mm barrel.

[7br]

Hickok45 has a Sig P220 in 10MM review on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8znYP12MLs

[oger]

What problems have there been with the 220 in 45acp? I put an awful lot of rounds through an early police trade in with zero problems unlike some other brands.

[S. Galbraith]

What problems have there been with the 220 in 45acp? I put an awful lot of rounds through an early police trade in with zero problems unlike some other brands.

With stamped carbon slide models, the weak point to the design was the two-piece slide held together with an inner and outer roll pin. If this pin breaks it could result in a cracked slide or breach block. Most of these slides would break on us after around 3000rds if the pin was not changed before then. Earlier P220 .45s(prior to 1993), had a weaker frame and +P loads were known to cause frame cracks on the rails.

In the early 2000s, Sig introduced the solid stainless slide with internal extractor. This slide was problematic with internal extractor design which caused reliability problems with extraction. This slide design was discontinued in the mid 2000s.

The latest generation P220 is probably the best of the P220 designs with a short, plunger machined extractor. However, it still needs to have a full detail strip and service every 2500-4000rds which is about half the service life of 9mm and .40 Sigs that we take care of. Weak points to the P220 design which are part of the original P220 9mm design are the old L-style trigger bar spring, take down lever ejector slide stop lever, and light slide weight.

[Bonz]

Have had my Sig P220 45acp for years and have fired thousands of round thru it. Only problem I have ever had was the front fiber strand falling out of the sight. I wanted target sights on it anyway...

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