Wolf primers

[dragonrider]

Last week I was searching the web for primers, seems availability is not a problem now at least.
I prefer CCI but could not argue with the price of Wolf. $20 per thousand. I bought 5000. They arrived today. Any reports of their quality? good or bad?

[Bonz]

Last week I was searching the web for primers, seems availability is not a problem now at least.
I prefer CCI but could not argue with the price of Wolf. $20 per thousand. I bought 5000. They arrived today. Any reports of their quality? good or bad?

I'm wondering the same thing myself. I have never used a Wolf primer and I have never heard anyone complain about them. Also, they are certainly less expensive...

[btroj]

No problems with mine. Large pistol are a bit snug in primer pockets but small pistol are not an issue.
They all go bang. I bought 20K and will buy more in the future.

[Love Life]

They work fine for me.

[unique]

I have used many large rifle and large pistol from Wolf and never had any misfires. I too found the large pistols a little snug and got revolver hang up since a few didn't get seated all the way...my fault. The large rifle are as good as any name brand out there.

I did note in chrono tests that the large pistol primers gave consistently higher velocity..not much but definitely detectable which probably means they are a littler hotter.

All in all good value for the money.

[Jupiter7]

Used at least 10k in LPP and SRP. Never a failure. They are kinda dirty and leave a greenish-yellow powdery film in my flip trays.

[John Boy]

The Cowboy Action folks, many, have not had any complaints
I never used Wolf primers but shoot a lot of Wolf Extra Match 2LR' that are very accurate

[jonp]

Just loaded up some tulammo primers and had 2 of 10 not fire. Loaded 20 more and all went bang. I've not tried wolf but their ammo all has worked. The price is hard to beat on the russian stuff

[leadhead]

I bought 5000 of the large rifle primers and when I first tried them, I had a couple of
misfires.... Read on some forum, you have to be sure to seat them fully or you'll get
misfires. I've been more careful since and have had no problems with them... They do
seem to be a little more snug when seating them.
Denny

[nemesisenforcer]

good and seemingly consistent for the price, though they fit tight in virtually every case I've put them in.

[dragonrider]

Thanks gents, overall that is what I was hoping to hear.

[Iowa Fox]

Where did you find them for $20

[RayinNH]

Widener's has some Wolf primers at $20/1000 the rest at $23/1000.

[Cherokee]

I have used thousands of Wolf and Tula, SR and SP. Never had a problem.

[ipijohn]

The only problem that I have encountered having shot 25K Wolf and Tula primers was with my Keltec PF9. I think they are slightly tougher than some of the others. That gun has been relegated (after reading Lee's warning about Federal primers) to using Federal SPP's which work well in it. Having said that, I have used many thousand Russian SPM's in my 5.56 and 300 BO loads without problems.

[dragonrider]

Got them from Wideners.

[Cmm_3940]

I loaded 3K of the Wolf primers in .223. They all went bang.

[oldandslow]

dr,

I bought 5,000 Wolf small rifle primers about two years ago during the great hoarding. Mine were used for my .223/556 LMT AR. I had problems with primer rupture/blow-by with medium and low powder loads of W748. It was bad enough they ruptured but they also eroded the face of my AR bolt. I even went below the recommended powder loads to see if light loads would rupture but they all did. Next I loaded them in a lower pressure round- the 9mm at standard and light loads. Still ruptured. Finally I loaded them in an even lower pressure round- the .45acp with small primer brass. Finally they would fire without rupturing. The problem with Small Rifle Primers in pistol rounds is that sometimes there may not be enough energy from the hammer/striker to reliably fire every cartridge.

I tried primers from different boxes within my 5000 case and had the same results. I finally took them back to my local reloading supply house and he swapped me out with some Winchester small rifle primers and had no problems. My lot number was from year 2009.

So no more Wolf primers for me but at least others have had good results.

best wishes- oldandslow

[EMC45]

I have Wolf SPP and have found they are HARD! I have tried flush, below flush and crush fit. Experienced misfires with all options. They were used in .38 Special and .32 S&W-L with various brass. K frames and J frames. Never an issue with the 9MM BHP or the KelTec Sub 2000 in .40 Cal. With the wheel guns they gave less than stellar results. I even got EXTRA power springs from Wolff and they still had issues. You will find (as I did) if you search on the internet there are many writeups on forums about the hardness of Wolf SPP in particular. I did get mine at 15 Bucks a thousand so I can't cry too hard, just know that I may get a misfire now and again.

[M-Tecs]

In have used over 25K of the PMC/Wolf/Tula Russian primers without any issues. A Couple of things to be aware of. With the Russian primers the difference between magnum and standard is cup thickness. For any high pressure applications like 223 you want magnum primers. The anvils are not proud like on US primers. They are flush and the cup tends to be slightly larger than what we are used too. They must be fully seated to be reliable.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3762540.0

[chutestrate]

Small rifle primers gave me a devil of a time. Commercial brass loaded ok, but military brass was a bugger. Even after removing the crimp quite a few just would not seat. Large pistol primers are good to go. Haven't used any others yet. Once seated they have all gone bang,

[pworley1]

I have never had an issue with them.

[Patricklaw]

I purchased some PMC back at the beginning of the scare and 5k Tula small pistol about last spring. I'm with the 2 of 10 ftf crowd. That would be in my Glocks and Sigmas. I now use them only in my Witness open gun and revolvers. They are just fine with the harder striking handguns.

[Mavrick]

I've used a bunch of Tula LR and LRM primers is hunting, varmint and 500m target rifles. The only misfires I've gotten were if I didn't seat them correctly. Magnum seems to mean harder cups rather than more powerful with the Russians. Most of my shooting is over the chronograph, which in my case, is an Oehler M33, so I grade the Tulas to be slightly less than CCI 200s, but more than R-P 9 1/2s. They, Tulas, seem to be consistent enough, though I prefer CCIs or W-W.for accuracy.
I also try to shoot as much Steel Challenge, pistol competition as I can, and test powders and primers between events. Tula sp primers are as good and consistent as any I've tried from CCI, Federal, R-P, W-W and Fiocci. I've never had a misfire with ANY of them...during tests OR in competition.
I'm still waiting for sr, though I've seen a lot of locals use them in BR competition.
I've used quite a bit of the Tulas in several cast loads, and have had great rersults.
Have fun,
Gene

[Lance Boyle]

I bought 2 cases each of SRP and LRP. I found their diameter to have more variance than our domestic types. I looked into it because I was having great changes in seating pressure on case to case. Some would slip right in feeling too loose and the next would be tight enough I would be double checking if it was deep enough.

The price was right when I bought them, they were $18 or so during the first panic.

The varying seating pressure is enough that I relegate them to last firing on brass before the recycle bin. As far as accuracy they were A OK.

[LenH]

The only complaint I've heard from folks is that most of the ftf are from improper seating. Having said that, I've only had 2 ftf in the last 10k I've loaded mostly in .45 AP & .45 Colt.

[MGnoob]

I found the tula SRP to me more sensitive than say CCI. I never had a primer go bang in my press untill i started using them.
I have found that when using my dillion vibritory primer sorter, the tula's aren't as round as the cci and after making it work with the tula i get some upsidedown primers when i go back to the CCIs......Maybe it's just the one i used. of the 15k tula primers i've shot once they are loaded they all go bang, just alittle more challange to load then when i use the CCIs.
For the price difference of $2-3$ per thousand i prefer the CCIs...but when all that is available is tula i use them.

[Silvercreek Farmer]

With Wolf I was getting 1-2 FTF per 100 in my Taurus 44. Even after several strikes, the failed primers only had a shallow divot, as if they were much harder than the rest. I just use them for target loads.

Just started using Tula SP in my 357 Small pin Handi. They seem to be resisting primer flow and the subsequent lockup that I was getting with Winchester SP despite moderate loads. Haven't shot enough of them to tell anything about reliability yet.

I've shot quite a bit of factory Tula in my Saiga 223 and never had a FTF.

[captaint]

Based on the generally good reports I got here, I bought 5 thou. I have about 500 loaded up, but haven't fired any yet. I do like the fact that they are a little more snug in the pocket, myself. I prime with a manual Sinclair tool, though. I think I paid 23 bux.
Mike

[fredj338]

Because of previous troubles with Wolf (Tula same thing) SP, I won't trust them. I have used LP & SR w/o issue, but in todays political climate, I prefer to NOT support the Putin regime to save a couple $$. Just me, but nothing wrong with CCI. If you want cheap & reliable & not Russian, S&B work fine too.

[mpmarty]

Bought 30,000 Wolf LP primers when the Obaminator got elected the first time. Use them in cast loads in 308, 45/70 and 45acp. No problems whatsoever. Paid $18.00 a thousand from Grafs.

[rodsvet]

Fredj338, I'm with you on not supporting the Russians with my dollars. I will pay $40-$50 for my primers and know that Puto can kiss my Azzzz.

[fredj338]

Fredj338, I'm with you on not supporting the Russians with my dollars. I will pay $40-$50 for my primers and know that Puto can kiss my Azzzz.
That's the point though, no need to pay that much. S&B are about the same price as Wolf/Tula. Cci, not much more. Yeah it's a little thing, but if all of us did the little things, it makes a diff.