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FLHTC
11-10-2014, 10:22 AM
I'm venturing into this pursuit and I'm finding that getting a good gas seal is difficult. I've tried hot melt clue to cap the case mouth but often this comes loose and it can't be providing enough resistance for pressure to build. What are y'all doing to solve this with brass shells

Outpost75
11-10-2014, 11:13 AM
I use a Buffalo Arms card wad in the Magtech shells and roll crimp then with a cut-off .308 Win. seater, adjusting the seating stem to hold the card in place while I bump the case mouth against the die shoulder.121401

FLHTC
11-10-2014, 11:46 AM
I'm thinking about 44 gas checks too instead of over shot cards. I'm going out to the craft store for some heavy cardboard and try that too.

mac60
11-10-2014, 10:55 PM
What dia. overshot card are you using?

Reg
11-10-2014, 11:52 PM
I don't like crimping as I feel it will cause premature cracking of the end of the case. Normally I glued them in with various glues with so so results. Here lately another member mentioned using clear silicone caulk . tried it and it looks great. Time will tell if it will last but for now it's the best I have seen.

FLHTC
11-11-2014, 01:45 PM
What dia. overshot card are you using?

If you're asking me, I'm using a .410 punch for the cards but I have 444 Marlin cases for shells and the cards are a little loose. The gas checks are the chit if you ask me

nomadSA
11-11-2014, 03:23 PM
I have found a 7/16 punch work well for over powder and under shot from old leverarc and over shot card from milk boxs in the "thin" brass cases. Was lucky to find one second hand for R25.00 just more than 2$. :-)

Outpost75
11-11-2014, 06:50 PM
What dia. overshot card are you using?

A .36 fits inside the mouth of the Federal 410SC shotcup, a Buffalo Arms .45 goes over the powder and under the 410SC shotcup to keep powder from leaking past the plastic wad, which would cause bloopers.

mac60
11-11-2014, 10:54 PM
If you're asking me, I'm using a .410 punch for the cards but I have 444 Marlin cases for shells and the cards are a little loose. The gas checks are the chit if you ask me

I don't load any .410 brass shells - just 20 and 12. In the 12 ga. the proper os card would be 10 ga. in 20 ga. it would be 17 ga. A .410 os card is .412" in diameter, the one to use is .450" in diameter (for magtech brass hulls). I always use an oversize card and "glue" it in with clear silicone caulk.

curator
11-11-2014, 11:12 PM
All brass shot shells need different wads (larger) than plastic shot shells due to the thinner case walls of the brass cases compared to plastic or paper hulls. I use .45 caliber wads in my CBC-Magtech .410 brass shells with great success. Using regular .410 wads mostly resulted in "bloopers" with low pressure and the occasional wad left in the bore (not good!) I use a .45 caliber "over-shot" wad and glue it in with "Elmer's" white glue. The old Alcan company made all brass .410 shells and the wads to load them. When I ran out of these a few years ago, I discovered Circle Fly wads and CBC/Magtech brass which work very well together.

FLHTC
11-12-2014, 09:01 AM
I'm using 444 brass. I don't care for the Magtech stuff. The 444 cases are quite thick and the gas checks work perfectly

tward
11-12-2014, 09:43 AM
I've had good luck with the WW wads for the HS cases. The wad diameter is larger than the other similar wads and seems to be a good fit in MagTech cases with a 300 gr (11/16 oz) shot load. Tim
Anybody tried using russian steel cases and reworking the primer pocket?

rbuck351
11-13-2014, 07:42 AM
I have been using the 444 cases with a std 410 over shot wad glued in with silicone for several years. It's been working well. I'm using a 44gc upside down over the powder then an over shot wad, shot and another over shot wad glued in. I'm getting 3/4 oz in them.

nomadSA
11-13-2014, 09:06 AM
What powder and load are you using for the 3/4oz Load?

FLHTC
11-13-2014, 10:05 AM
I have been using the 444 cases with a std 410 over shot wad glued in with silicone for several years. It's been working well. I'm using a 44gc upside down over the powder then an over shot wad, shot and another over shot wad glued in. I'm getting 3/4 oz in them.
Interesting. I'll have to try that.

Littlewolf
11-14-2014, 08:45 PM
i fire formed hornady 9.3x74r brass in my break action 410 and a wad cutter made by thecyberguy measuring .453dia punching cereal box for the powder card cork buffer cereal box card shot cereal box card sealed with melted crayola

too many things
11-15-2014, 02:06 AM
a fired 45 long colt case will work for a cutter for a while . guy on feebay will make any size for about $10
use the LIDS from cottage cheese or butter, yogurt, or the like. the plastic will not set like a paper wad and will hold tight
I seat with a 44 pistol seat die to line up
the over powder I cut petals off a 410 wad, but BPI has a powder seal. I have not used the lids for a over powder but would guess they would work or a wad cut from the bar coasters
you don't need to crimp the case, the plastic will not move.