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Guesser
11-09-2014, 01:05 PM
Got the 5.5", had to send it back to Ruger. The loading gate spring was defective, I managed to load and fire 21 factory rounds before I sent it in. Got it back with 11 day turn around; it is fixed. Took it afield, finished that box of AE factory and went thru a box of my hand loads featuring 2400 and Lyman 311316. Good gun and a good cartridge. I like it; a lot!!! Pics

Hickok
11-09-2014, 01:13 PM
Beautiful revolver, and those are really nice grips!

rintinglen
11-09-2014, 01:47 PM
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Here's my own 2 cents. I had a lot of trouble with mine at first, but it has cleaned up nicely. Once I get the issue with too shallow cut-out on the loading gate fixed, It'll make a great "packin' pistol". Those are MP 314-640 100 grain boolits there. Sized .313, lubed with Ben's Red and loaded over 11.0 grains of ww-296 they seem to want to shoot great in limited testing. Thursday I am going out to the range for further testing.

wrench man
11-09-2014, 11:10 PM
I opened up the loading gate notch on mine last night, took it out this afternoon, the base pin doesn't like to stay in place, that's my only issue with it now.
Also shot my new to me Blackhawk 30 Carbine, guys have said they're LOUD!?, it has nothing on the 327 Federal!

Mohillbilly
11-10-2014, 10:58 AM
My AutomagIII shoots .30 carbine and its noisey , but my 3" SP 101 in .327 fed will match it . looks like I may need to polish the inside or the gate of my single sevens too .

dragon813gt
11-10-2014, 11:18 AM
I didn't notice mine being that loud. Comparable to my 357s I would say. But a lot softer shooting. Those factory AE loads were hell on steel plates at the range. I'm waiting for NOE to run some of their 314 molds. And hoping that MP mold shows up for sale here. The 640 nose profile is accurate in everything I've shot it in. Just don't have one for 32 cals :(

Guesser
11-10-2014, 05:31 PM
I use the old 311316 for 4 different 327's. Good solid accurate boolit.

Whit Spurzon
11-12-2014, 10:46 AM
I've had mine for almost a month now and it is emerging as a new favorite. The 327 in the Single Six is as perfect as I can imagine.

The only factory 327 I've tried is the American Eagle JSP. It shows a preference for the 100 grain (1480 fps avg) over the 85 grain bullet (1390 fps average).

I haven't figured out if the Lyman 311008 shoots better than the RCBS 32-98 SWC yet as are doing well at velocities on up to 1400+ fps. Lil'Gun produces the best velocity and accuracy at the higher speeds. Every powder I've tried in the 1200-1300 fps seems to shoot well (W231, Unique, AA#5, SR4756). I might give AA#5 the edge as it has the most data available. Unique data seems sedate for the cartridge but is sure shoots consistently well in terms of velocity and accuracy.

The 32 H&R loads I have for my 32 Single Six do well in the Single Seven too. Velocities from 860 fps (W231) to 1310 fps (Lil'Gun) using the RCBS 32-98 SWC are impressively accurate in both guns.

I need to get casting as these little 32's have a voracious appetites.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k542/WhitSpurzon/Ruger/1-009_zps1c44fe13.jpg

OuchHot!
11-12-2014, 03:55 PM
You folk are killing me. I ordered a 7.5" in august and it still hasn't come in.

Green Frog
11-12-2014, 04:20 PM
I use the old 311316 for 4 different 327's. Good solid accurate boolit.

Details man, details! What kind of loads are they? Are you using the gas check or no? "Inquiring minds..."

Froggie

PS I've got a SC mould in 311316, but I'm hot on the trail of a DC. Stay tuned!

dragon813gt
11-12-2014, 04:44 PM
I almost bought the 5.5" today.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/dragon813gt/Firearms/5F20C6D6-2264-4210-8F9B-5264E9534465.jpg (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/dragon813gt/media/Firearms/5F20C6D6-2264-4210-8F9B-5264E9534465.jpg.html)

FergusonTO35
11-12-2014, 06:28 PM
Those Single Sevens just reek of awesomeness. I have zero interest in the .327 cartridge itself though. Oh Ruger, why did you ever give up on the .32 Magnum?

Fergie
11-12-2014, 07:37 PM
Those Single Sevens just reek of awesomeness. I have zero interest in the .327 cartridge itself though. Oh Ruger, why did you ever give up on the .32 Magnum?

After my tribulations with the Solo Siete, I am quite pleased with it now that the loading gate is opened up a bit.

I grew up shooting a .32 H&R Magnum that my father gave me...nostalgia alone is worth the cost for the new to me .327.

The SS are showing up on armslist for less than retail at the LGS, so it is a decent time to buy.

shooting on a shoestring
11-12-2014, 08:00 PM
I'd love to get excited about a Single Seven, but I've got loads for my Single Six in 32 H&R that get NOE 314008 to about 1350 give or take 20 fps. I'm not sure I want to go faster in 32.

Whit Spurzon - yes those 32s do have a voracious appetite! I started shooting 32s instead of 45 Colt so I could save on lead. That isn't working out at all. Those NOE 5 cavity moulds and a Star lubrisizer make lots of beatutiful boolits in a hurry. Still they just seem to evaporate. I'm low now. Only a few hundred left.

ejcrist
11-12-2014, 11:23 PM
I've had mine for almost a month now and it is emerging as a new favorite. The 327 in the Single Six is as perfect as I can imagine.

The only factory 327 I've tried is the American Eagle JSP. It shows a preference for the 100 grain (1480 fps avg) over the 85 grain bullet (1390 fps average).

I haven't figured out if the Lyman 311008 shoots better than the RCBS 32-98 SWC yet as are doing well at velocities on up to 1400+ fps. Lil'Gun produces the best velocity and accuracy at the higher speeds. Every powder I've tried in the 1200-1300 fps seems to shoot well (W231, Unique, AA#5, SR4756). I might give AA#5 the edge as it has the most data available. Unique data seems sedate for the cartridge but is sure shoots consistently well in terms of velocity and accuracy.

The 32 H&R loads I have for my 32 Single Six do well in the Single Seven too. Velocities from 860 fps (W231) to 1310 fps (Lil'Gun) using the RCBS 32-98 SWC are impressively accurate in both guns.

I need to get casting as these little 32's have a voracious appetites.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k542/WhitSpurzon/Ruger/1-009_zps1c44fe13.jpg

Where are you crimping the RCBS 32-98 boolit? I'm guessing over the front driving band so it'll fit in the cylinder. I don't own a Single Seven yet but sure would like to shoot the 32-98 boolit in it when I get one.

Guesser
11-12-2014, 11:37 PM
As I said, I shoot the 311316 and yes I GC it. I'd shoot the 3118 before I shot a 311316 without a check. I have tried several lighter cast bullets in all my 327's and find that they all do better with the 115 grain boolit. The 95-100 are faster I suppose but they fade on long range accuracy. Even the 2" Taurus is better with the heavier boolit.

Whit Spurzon
11-13-2014, 09:04 AM
Where are you crimping the RCBS 32-98 boolit? I'm guessing over the front driving band so it'll fit in the cylinder. I don't own a Single Seven yet but sure would like to shoot the 32-98 boolit in it when I get one.

In 327 I run 1.485" OAL and that just covers the driving band. In 32 H&R I've settled on 1.400" which crimps into the driving band.

The RCBS 32-98 SWC is the best 32 H&R boolit I've tried and it is probably true in the 327 as well. More testing is required.

I just cast a few hundred more and Shooting on a Shoestring said, they will 'evaporate" quickly.

Markbo
11-14-2014, 09:47 PM
...I didn't notice mine being that loud. Comparable to my 357s I would say.... :(

I find .357 revolvers more.painfulky loud than any otber hangun including .460 S&W and .475L

rintinglen
11-16-2014, 02:59 AM
I just yesterday got out to the range after opening up the loading gate. I am really pleased with the accuracy. This gun seems to really want to shoot, but I have had problems with mine and the 327 heavy boolit loads. About one shot in three, the base pin jumps free and ties up the gun. It shoots fine with 32 H&R loads and 32 S&W Longs, but the 327 loads using the 311-316 and the 311-465 require the base pin to be checked every shot. That said, both the 311-316 and the MP 314-640 100 HP shot some very nice groups.
I'll be calling Ruger monday--I hope that the 7 1/2 incher that I ordered works out better.

Guesser
11-16-2014, 09:17 AM
Yea, my base pin wants to unlock and move also. I'll just get a Belt Mountain lock and pin and enjoy "end of problem".

Airman Basic
11-16-2014, 09:52 AM
I just yesterday got out to the range after opening up the loading gate. I am really pleased with the accuracy. This gun seems to really want to shoot, but I have had problems with mine and the 327 heavy boolit loads. About one shot in three, the base pin jumps free and ties up the gun. It shoots fine with 32 H&R loads and 32 S&W Longs, but the 327 loads using the 311-316 and the 311-465 require the base pin to be checked every shot. That said, both the 311-316 and the MP 314-640 100 HP shot some very nice groups.
I'll be calling Ruger monday--I hope that the 7 1/2 incher that I ordered works out better.
How are y'all opening the loading gate? Also, wouldn't deepening the notch or playing with the base pin latch spring fix the jumping problem?

jrayborn
11-16-2014, 10:05 AM
I deepened mine with a 1/2" diameter round stone and stoned it deep enough to load and unload with ease. It took 2-3 tries but worked perfectly. On mine there was a high "ridge" that was the issue, maybe 7-10 thousandths high. Follow up with a green scotch pad to match the "finish" and all is good.

My base pin also jumped. The hole for the base pin latch was not drilled deep enough. I fixed that too and now everything is good. :)

Petrol & Powder
11-16-2014, 10:16 AM
I'm unclear on the loading gate issue. Is it too shallow, too narrow or just poorly finished? Can someone post a picture?

Bullshop Junior
11-16-2014, 10:25 AM
I opened up the loading gate notch on mine last night, took it out this afternoon, the base pin doesn't like to stay in place, that's my only issue with it now.
Also shot my new to me Blackhawk 30 Carbine, guys have said they're LOUD!?, it has nothing on the 327 Federal!
You might try tightening the base pin spring retainer button thingynabob. I had issues with my base pin falling out on my singe six when I started shooting heavy bullets in it. Tightening the latch made it quit.

dragon813gt
11-16-2014, 11:00 AM
I'm unclear on the loading gate issue. Is it too shallow, too narrow or just poorly finished? Can someone post a picture?

There is another thread here w/ pics. The issue is the indexing. When the cylinder is locked you can't load a round because the chamber isn't lined up w/ the gate properly. It's only a tiny amount but it's enough to be an issue. Basically the chamber isn't centered in the gate for loading.

Petrol & Powder
11-16-2014, 11:50 AM
So the fix is to open up the cut in the frame a little?

jrayborn
11-16-2014, 12:14 PM
Thats what I did. Push a loaded round in and out and it will make a brass mark where it fetches up. Then stone it down. Easy peasy.

Bullshop Junior
11-16-2014, 12:18 PM
Those Single Sevens just reek of awesomeness. I have zero interest in the .327 cartridge itself though. Oh Ruger, why did you ever give up on the .32 Magnum?
They quit making the 32 mag?

I do find it frustrating the lack of factory ammo. I no longer have time or reload much so have been shooting 32 acp in because I can find it.

Fergie
11-16-2014, 01:17 PM
I'm unclear on the loading gate issue. Is it too shallow, too narrow or just poorly finished? Can someone post a picture?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/005_zps22459388.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/005_zps22459388.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/015_zps4057d00d.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/015_zps4057d00d.jpg.html)

These two pics show the loading attempt when the hand notch is indexed on the hand.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/007_zpsa679e6b9.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/007_zpsa679e6b9.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/016_zpsc4511da5.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/016_zpsc4511da5.jpg.html)
These show the cylinder prior to indexing, just barely clearing the loading gate.

Like others, I opened up the loading gate a bit too to get rid of the ridge.

Bullshop Junior
11-16-2014, 01:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/005_zps22459388.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/005_zps22459388.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/015_zps4057d00d.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/015_zps4057d00d.jpg.html)

These two pics show the loading attempt when the hand notch is indexed on the hand.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/007_zpsa679e6b9.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/007_zpsa679e6b9.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/bergferg/016_zpsc4511da5.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bergferg/media/016_zpsc4511da5.jpg.html)
These show the cylinder prior to indexing, just barely clearing the loading gate.

Like others, I opened up the loading gate a bit too to get rid of the ridge.
My 32 mag is like that. I just live with it.

Fergie
11-16-2014, 01:37 PM
My 32 mag is like that. I just live with it.

Yes, as are most Rugers since 1973. The finer points of the discussion were hashed out previously, and I personally do not want to bring that convo back to life. I am merely posting the pictures for illustrative purposes per Petrol & Powder's request.

John Allen
11-16-2014, 02:08 PM
I have one of the vaquero 32 single sixes in a birdshead grip. they are great.

Petrol & Powder
11-16-2014, 02:52 PM
That clears it up for me. Thanks.

rintinglen
11-17-2014, 07:42 PM
For clarification, the seven shooters suffer from the issue because some body bad at math decided back at the factory decided to use the same cut out used on the loading gate of the 6 shooter. Apparently, they didn't remember that 6 goes into 360 60 times, while 7 only goes 51.4 times. Given the already tight tolerance, that missing 8 degrees makes a difference and the difference is a nuisance. My brother's Bisley SSM has no problem loading, nor does his birdshead mini-Vaquero. I blame him for me buying the blamed thing in the first place. If I find a Bisley SSM, I'm buying it and will grovel and explain to SWMBO later.
A tip of the hat to jrayborn, I followed his advice and stoned the ridge on my loading gate to open it a smidge more, then polished it with a felt wheel and some metal polish to really slick things up. I am sending it back to the factory to get the base pin problem taken care of. I could deal with it myself, but if they get enough feedback, maybe they'll make 'em right from the git-go. And I'm waiting on a 7 1/2 incher, now.

jrayborn
11-17-2014, 08:28 PM
My 4-5/8" is on the way to my dealer as I am typing this :)

Fergie
11-18-2014, 02:41 AM
A tip of the hat to jrayborn, I followed his advice and stoned the ridge on my loading gate to open it a smidge more, then polished it with a felt wheel and some metal polish to really slick things up.

Make that two tips of the hat. I followed his post as well and am pleased with the result.

jrayborn
11-18-2014, 06:39 AM
Glad I could offer some useful advice guys, enjoy!