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Like the title says, I would like to make some #2 alloy but only have the following ingredients.
COWW
SOWW
Lead Roof Flashing
Dental Film Lead (only a few pounds)
I have tried using the Alloy Calculator but I have no idea what I am doing...
Yodogsandman
11-08-2014, 07:43 PM
You'll need to increase both the antimony and tin content of your COWW. Lyman #2 is 5% antimony, 5% tin and 90% pure lead. COWW is 2 1/2% to 3 % antimony, .5% tin and about 96% PB. Antimony is hard to add in it's raw form, it doesn't want to melt. You could use magnum lead shot at 6% antimony, 94% PB to help add some Sb. Then use any form of tin you want to raise the Sn level.
I've read here that some members prefer to use linotype to make Lyman #2 alloy. You have to cut it with pure lead to dilute the amount of Sb and then add some more Sn.
I use an easier alloy. In a 10 lb pot, I fill about half way with COWW ingots, melt them, add 1/2 lb of bar solder and finish filling to the inner brim with more COWW ingots. This alloy gives me about 13 BHN (guessing) and fills out the molds great. This is a very repeatable alloy without using any scales. The bar solder comes as 1 lb sticks and I measure with a tape measure for a half pound. It's good enough for almost all my shooting. It heat treats real good, too if you want a harder alloy.
Yodog, what's your solder tin content?
Ickisrulz
11-08-2014, 10:45 PM
Real Lyman #2 is 90% lead, 5% tin and 5% antimony. By using Super Hard alloy and pure tin from Rotometals is one way you can do it. See this link.
http://www.lasc.us/SuperHard.htm
Yodogsandman
11-09-2014, 06:14 AM
Yodog, what's your solder tin content?
50/50 lead/tin bar solder available at plumbing supply houses.
michiganmike
11-09-2014, 08:18 PM
According to the alloy calculator I use (downloaded from a link on this forum) I am producing Lyman #2 with a 50/50 mix of Linotype from Rotometal and smelted, clean COWW. This alloy produces very nice bullets from the two 7mm moulds I have. I have no means of testing the actual bullets for hardness.
MichiganMike
Yodogsandman
11-10-2014, 09:47 PM
Here's some common recipes that might help...
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletAlloy.htm#alloyrecipes
fryboy
11-11-2014, 09:18 PM
50/50 lino/lead makes a alloy with #2 alloy hardness ( they call it taracorp magnum IIRC ) but isnt quite the same as #2 alloy, but ...it's alot easier to make ( less figuring anyways ;) )
Defcon-One
11-13-2014, 11:19 PM
Yep, Hardball Alloy (AKA Terracorp Magnum Alloy) is a 50/50 mix of Pure Lead with Linotype, but he is using COWW with Linotype!
Jaak: You'll need another source of Tin, like Solder or Pewter!
Twmaster
11-17-2014, 02:12 AM
Here's some common recipes that might help...
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletAlloy.htm#alloyrecipes
The only problem I see with that list of recipes is the use of COWW. That is getting hard hard hard to get at reasonable prices.
dale2242
11-17-2014, 05:59 AM
SO, If I mix 5# linotype with 5# soft lead, how much tin will I need to add to get it close to Lyman #2 alloy.
I have lots of 50/50 solder drippings...dale
Yodogsandman
11-17-2014, 06:53 AM
4# linotype, 5# soft lead and 1# 50/50 lead/tin solder will get you really close. This is assuming that "soft" lead is "pure" lead. SOWW would probably be close enough to pure.
Larry Gibson
11-17-2014, 11:14 AM
SO, If I mix 5# linotype with 5# soft lead, how much tin will I need to add to get it close to Lyman #2 alloy.
I have lots of 50/50 solder drippings...dale
Lyman's classic recipe for #2 alloy is;
4 lbs linotype
5 lbs lead
1 lb 50/50 solder
It is what I use and it makes an excellent alloy which gives AC'd BHN at 10 days of 15-16 and WQ'd BHN at 48 hours of 21 - 22. And it casts beautiful bullets.
Larry Gibson
dale2242
11-17-2014, 10:09 PM
Thanks guys.
I still have some WWs but am a lot richer on linotype and pure lead.....dale
Twmaster
11-18-2014, 01:16 AM
Lyman's classic recipe for #2 alloy is;
4 lbs linotype
5 lbs lead
1 lb 50/50 solder
It is what I use and it makes an excellent alloy which gives AC'd BHN at 10 days of 15-16 and WQ'd BHN at 48 hours of 21 - 22. And it casts beautiful bullets.
Larry Gibson
That would be easy for me to make in small quantities with a small tweak...
2 lbs Lino
2.75 lbs lead
.25 lbs pewter
I do not have a huge stockpile of lead and alloys yet. I do have big enough quantities to make a few small batches of the above. That would give me about 350 pills for my 32-20 S&W.
Defcon-One
11-21-2014, 07:39 PM
That would be easy for me to make in small quantities with a small tweak...
2 lbs Lino
2.75 lbs lead
.25 lbs pewter
Use 0.18 lbs of the pewter and you'll get Lyman #2, dead on! Your mix is high in Tin, same as Larry's classic recipe.
Twmaster
11-21-2014, 11:52 PM
Now that's a good bit of info. Thank you D-1.
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