What do we have here? Rolling block

[crabo]

A friend of mine picked this up at a garage sale for $200. There are no markings on it, except for a B close to the receiver.120893120894120895

Complete with a ramrod

[GhostHawk]

Would he like to double his money?


Any clues as to caliber? That should have been stamped on the original barrel. Which IMO means it probably has been re-barreled, or put together from parts.

[pworley1]

From the rear sight it looks like a number 5 7mm mauser.

[flydoc]

Dang. I wish there were garage sales like that around here.

[elk hunter]

Unmarked generally means an unlicensed foreign copy. Determining the caliber may help you figure out where it was made.

[Janoosh]

Crabo, of the three Remington no5, 7mm, Rolling blocks I own, only one has a caliber marked, 7mm. All....have the Remington markings on the tang. That's assuming it's a small bore and 7mm.
Great find, by the way, including the ramrod.

[crabo]

He is going to do a chamber cast. We should get some good info from that.

[Hardcast416taylor]

A look at how big the hole is at the muzzle is a good start at figuring the caliber.Robert

[crabo]

looks about 45, but a 45/70 will not chamber all the way.

[Alberta woodsman]

maybe 43 Mauser or 43 spanish or 43 Egyption? Unless an American built rifle then it could be a number of straight wall calibers

[John Boy]

From the rear sight it looks like a number 5 7mm mauser.Same sights were put on #1's - I have two #1's with that sight in 45-70 and 50-70

[rfd]

very very nice. i love rolling blocks - because, as most of us know, ......

http://i.imgur.com/aENT5o1.jpg

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[JSnover]

Good score! Good luck finding out what it is/was. A friend of mind gave me one from his grandmothers closet. Basically a parts gun, but it started me down the RB path. A couple of trades and $2000 later...

[bigted]

by the looks im bettin it be a 43 Spanish as mine is exactly like it. mine only has the Remington three line stamping on the wrist. by removing the stock ... there should be some numbers on the left side of the tang that the wood covers. this is kinda a set of numbers that will give little traction in chasing down what it is.

the slab side barrel tells me that it is an original barrel but who knows about the chamber and bore ... till you do a slug measurement on the bore and a chamber cast ... this will tell the story in a hurry.

[John Allen]

It has the slide bar extractor. I would do a chamber cast. I am guessing something in the 43 cal but this is only a guess.

[John Allen]

Does it say Remington on the tang? Sometimes it is hard to read and you might need a magnify glass if the finish has browned and has rust.

[rmatchell]

Im thinking its not a #5 more likely a #1 but cant be sure from the posted pics. Either way you got to love rolling blocks.

[TXGunNut]

I've had good luck using an LED flashlight to bring out faint markings.

[bigted]

it is definitely not a #5 action. the extractor is a bar type on this rifle and the rear barrel band is not built for a top wood cover ... also the receiver has no obvious way to anchor the top wood piece of a #5 action ... at any rate ... the 200 dollar admission cost is LOW and the rifle will give hours of enjoyment when the bore and chamber are discovered ... there are ways to load for any of the standard chambering's in these rifles and im bettin that the original chamber ... if original ... is a blackpowder era cartridge. congrates for sure.

[bob208]

it is a number one. buy the rear sight I would put my money on it being a .43 Egyptian.

[Howie405]

.43 Egyptians normally have Arabic script on the top of the receiver ring and the sliding bar extractor does not rule out the roller being a #5 as the 1897 rollers in 7mm had bar extractors.I would bet it is a .43 Spanish.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

There is no substitute for a chamber case, for there were a bewildering number of cartridges of about this caliber, which could have been used in rolling-block Remingtons even if that wasn't the major rifle of the country concerned.

The commonest are Spanish. The first Remingtons for Spain, all or mostly made in the Oviedo arsenal, were in an 11.15x58 chambering, aka .43 Spanish Remington. This was actually as good as black powder cartridges get, being the favourite of James Paris Lee and others. With this one a .45-70 should stop abruptly at the shoulder, some half inch short of complete insertion.

For some bizarre non-Teutonic reason, though, Spain opted to change it, including rechambering existing rifles, for the 11.5x57 Spanish Reformado, a tapered case in which the .45-70 should fully chamber but wouldn't, due to head dimensions, be safe to fire. As the new brass jacketed bullet was (at least in rechambered rifles) fired through the old, .015in. undersized bore, I can't see why they did it. I doubt if Remington had much say in the matter, but although few rolling-blocks were made for bad cartridges, this might be an exception.

The Egyptian .43 should stop the .45-70 round much closer to full insertion than the 11.15mm. Remington, but the chamber, at .581in. should be very noticeably oversize at the head.

[Dan4570]

Hi
if it is a 43 I think Buffalo Arms carries brass, molds and reloading dies for it. I would suggest suggest checking with these folks. http://www.rollingblockparts.com/
They all kinds of parts, and would likely be able to help tell you exactly what you have.
good luck

[bigted]

.43 Egyptians normally have Arabic script on the top of the receiver ring and the sliding bar extractor does not rule out the roller being a #5 as the 1897 rollers in 7mm had bar extractors.I would bet it is a .43 Spanish.

guess I have never seen a #5 with a bar type extractor ... all #5's I have seen have the rotary type extractor ... learn something new all the time ... thanks.